Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Wasn't there some rumour suggesting Rickie's agent was trying to get him a better deal recently? Leak a story to the press that a numpty club are willing to pay extortionate wages, club respond in trying to keep their asset by offering a better deal (but not at that level) and a player who doesn't really want to leave ends up with a better deal. Simple. Except for the Don... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 The Sun is pure toilet paper, rubbish hysterical journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Shaw rumour i think is wrong, 8 million plus Ryan Bertrand, sorry Bertrand is a good LB but i would value him at 6-7 mill, i would expect the Don to get a player and money worth in total of 20 million. Lambert, well he needs to play and be up top being the goal scorer hes got 5 assists this season and 6 goals, he wants more goals and needs to score 10 prem goals to have a chance of going to Brazil, with Osvaldo missing and winnable games vs WBA at home and Sunderland away and fully fit side with Lambo up top should mean he gets a goal or two and we get at least 4 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Shaw rumour i think is wrong, 8 million plus Ryan Bertrand, sorry Bertrand is a good LB but i would value him at 6-7 mill, i would expect the Don to get a player and money worth in total of 20 million. Lambert, well he needs to play and be up top being the goal scorer hes got 5 assists this season and 6 goals, he wants more goals and needs to score 10 prem goals to have a chance of going to Brazil, with Osvaldo missing and winnable games vs WBA at home and Sunderland away and fully fit side with Lambo up top should mean he gets a goal or two and we get at least 4 points. Scored 7 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Sky Sports News just reported that Rickie Lambert is DESPERATE to leave Southampton and also Saints are willing to sell Shaw to Chelsea! The transfer part of that program is just a front for SkyBet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 So is this actually happening? He's still playing and scoring goals here, although he might fit in better at West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 We are happy to let him go but have to find an adequate replacement first, also Shaw deal is looking more and more on, what will Cortese make of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 We are happy to let him go but have to find an adequate replacement first, also Shaw deal is looking more and more on, what will Cortese make of that? Who are you speaking for exactly? with this "we" The deal is looking "more and more on"..how? because the papers/sky/media say so...oh right:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Who are you speaking for exactly? with this "we" The deal is looking "more and more on"..how? because the papers/sky/media say so...oh right:rolleyes: So you can only comment once things have happened? The forum would be shut down as a pure reactionary site, think about it for a moment, or are you only allowed to speculate supposed positive things on here? £8 Million for him is good if we can find a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 It will feel strange if he leaves, he has been the focal point of our team for the last 4 1/2 years. Who can replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 This is how some users of this forum operate, they only want to see what they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Why would Lambert be "desperate" to leave. Just for the money? Benched for the big games this season? Lack of chances created/having to drop deep all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 It will feel strange if he leaves, he has been the focal point of our team for the last 4 1/2 years. Who can replace him? Well thats for Cortese to decide along with the committee, he track record at purchasing players along with the said committee just not inspire at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 This is how some users of this forum operate, they only want to see what they want to. You've been banned for posting pictures of apes before, be careful mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 So you can only comment once things have happened? The forum would be shut down as a pure reactionary site, think about it for a moment, or are you only allowed to speculate supposed positive things on here? £8 Million for him is good if we can find a replacement. Speculation is great but speaking for others is that what a forum should be...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 The moose spoke to rickie yesterday and said he would say that lambert will stay at saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 This is how some users of this forum operate, they only want to see what they want to. Nah! thats whats lots of us do when you post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Why would Lambert be "desperate" to leave. Just for the money? Benched for the big games this season? Lack of chances created/having to drop deep all the time? It says a double in wages, not a first teamer here, coming to the end of his career and he can end it on £70,000 a week two year deal, of course he would take it as its an extra £350,000 approx over that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 It says a double in wages, not a first teamer here, coming to the end of you career and you can end it on £70,000 a week two year deal, of course he would take it as its an extra £350,000 approx over that time. And so it continues...the speaking for others now includes players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 I find it very hard to believe that Lambert wants to go and play for West Ham. Probably more likely that he wants to earn the ridiculous salary on offer than play for West Ham as such. But now that they've signed a typical 6'8" Allardyce striker will they still go for RL ? perhaps They will given Fat Sam's style of stockpiling players. We'd be mad to consider letting RL go despite his age etc. Just look at how less fluid our play was yesterday after he went off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Id put my mortgage on rick not leaving saints for west ham! The bloke loves saints to bits, when ever he gets interviewed when playing for England he can't thank saints enough! The bloke will retire as a saints legend. People who believe this desperate paper talk need to read a proper paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 The Sun is not a newspaper, it fabricates stories. Why would Lambo throw away a great season at St Marys, hopefully in the league and cup, to enter a relegation fight with a club that plays no football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 (edited) And so it continues...the speaking for others now includes players Ok if West Ham offered to double his wages I strongly believe he would take it, this is based upon my own experience and the fact his career is ending, its a good gamble to assume that but carry on being contrary, you can presume what was said between Clattenburg and Lallana and yet when the shoe is on the other foot with a fair % of whats going on you refute it, again look at the picture above. Edited 5 January, 2014 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 The Sun is not a newspaper, it fabricates stories. Why would Lambo throw away a great season at St Marys, hopefully in the league and cup, to enter a relegation fight with a club that plays no football ? Because they're so desperate they might be prepared to double his wages? If true, nobody should begrudge him the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 The Sun is not a newspaper, it fabricates stories. Why would Lambo throw away a great season at St Marys, hopefully in the league and cup, to enter a relegation fight with a club that plays no football ? Oh the Cup now, are we going to use that as a reason? We obviously could not give a ****e about the other one, Lambert would double his wages, he does not have long left as a playing career, would you refuse it? He is not the 1st choice or would not be if Osvaldo was so poor, the club does not want him as a 1st teamer so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Id put my mortgage on rick not leaving saints for west ham! The bloke loves saints to bits, when ever he gets interviewed when playing for England he can't thank saints enough! The bloke will retire as a saints legend. People who believe this desperate paper talk need to read a proper paper. I would not do that if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Ok if West Ham offered to double his wages I strongly believe he would take it, this is based upon my own experience and the fact his career is ending, its a good gamble to assume that but carry on being contrary, you can presume what was said between Clattenburg and Lallana and yet when the shoe is on the other foot with a fair % of whats going on you refute it, again look at the picture above. Based on what, have you spoke with him? do you speak with his agent....? I presume nothing about what was said re Lallana and Clattenburg.. No idea what you mean re the shoe on other foot bit?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Oh the Cup now, are we going to use that as a reason? We obviously could not give a ****e about the other one, Lambert would double his wages, he does not have long left as a playing career, would you refuse it? He is not the 1st choice or would not be if Osvaldo was so poor, the club does not want him as a 1st teamer so why not?[/QUOTE] Why do you continue to post things as facts but have no evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 As wouldn't expect rickie to be sold until dani is back after Sunderland, can see fat sam no longer being there if they lose the next 2 league games plus out of both cups all very possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 From the ssn transfer blog The Sun on Sunday says that Rickie Lambert is desperate for an £8million move to West Ham. Lambert would reportedly double his £35,000-a-week wages at Upton Park, but Southampton will not let him go without a replacement. Just LOL at desperate for the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Oh the Cup now, are we going to use that as a reason? We obviously could not give a ****e about the other one, Lambert would double his wages, he does not have long left as a playing career, would you refuse it? He is not the 1st choice or would not be if Osvaldo was so poor, the club does not want him as a 1st teamer so why not?[/QUOTE] Why do you continue to post things as facts but have no evidence? Dani Osvaldo was bought as competition I presume (can I resume that?) and the formations we play means there is only room for one, also Lambert was not playing or was a frequent starter for many games this year, also the fact he is now 31, just a hunch................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Strikers rotated depending on who we are playing does not mean he is not 1st choice,J-Rod up top against Chelsea was surely because Terry and Cahill are slow and Jays pace could burn the pair if he had the opportunity? Different strikers for different teams it is a purely tactical choice and nothing to do with him not being 1st choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Strikers rotated depending on who we are playing does not mean he is not 1st choice,J-Rod up top against Chelsea was surely because Terry and Cahill are slow and Jays pace could burn the pair if he had the opportunity? Different strikers for different teams it is a purely tactical choice and nothing to do with him not being 1st choice So you are happy with Osvaldo and Lambert as our strikers to help us push for Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Dani Osvaldo was bought as competition I presume (can I resume that?) and the formations we play means there is only room for one, also Lambert was not playing or was a frequent starter for many games this year, also the fact he is now 31, just a hunch................................. Much better way to put it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Much better way to put it A highly probable one, if you dont know go with the most probable, surely you have been taught that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 The Sun is not a newspaper, it fabricates stories. Why would Lambo throw away a great season at St Marys, hopefully in the league and cup, to enter a relegation fight with a club that plays no football ? Do you really believe that some journo woke up this morning and thought" I know I'll make something up about Southampton" . If he wanted to make something up, then surely it would be Rooney to someone or Man Utd interested in x, y, or z. I have a mate who works for the gutter press and they really do not make this sort of thing up. This would have come from someone. They sometimes print things they don't really believe, but they'll have a source. In this case my money would be on Lambert's agent, trying to pressure saints. But it would have come from, interested club,selling club,player,agent or teammate. A journo did not just pluck this out of thin air to fill column inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 A highly probable one, if you dont know go with the most probable, surely you have been taught that? Go with your own opinion but use some facts to help you judge...and there are no facts/proof/interviews/videos etc to support the view that Lambert wants to go let alone desperate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 I think the biggest give away on Lambert was yesterdays game. He looked really disinterested and without energy to his performance. His goal lightened an otherwise grey performance IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Go with your own opinion but use some facts to help you judge...and there are no facts/proof/interviews/videos etc to support the view that Lambert wants to go let alone desperate... If you solely deal in balck and white on a football forum you are going to be frustrated, I suggest a God forum or something like that, football the game I love is about opinions and in some part conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 I think the biggest give away on Lambert was yesterdays game. He looked really disinterested and without energy to his performance. His goal lightened an otherwise grey performance IMO. You could say that about most of our team yesterday; it was lightweight from a lot of them, doing as little as they could get away with........not just Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 (edited) I think the biggest give away on Lambert was yesterdays game. He looked really disinterested and without energy to his performance. His goal lightened an otherwise grey performance IMO. dead legs hurt a bit you know, what did he look like in the 10 minutes of the game before he got that ? Might be hard to tell because I think Burnley were roughing us up a bit for those minutes. Personally I'm not fussed, if he goes he goes, if he stays he stays but as of yet there's only paper speculation about him leaving and the bloke himself saying only a couple of weeks back just how attached to Southampton he's become. Edited 5 January, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Do you really believe that some journo woke up this morning and thought" I know I'll make something up about Southampton" . If he wanted to make something up, then surely it would be Rooney to someone or Man Utd interested in x, y, or z. I have a mate who works for the gutter press and they really do not make this sort of thing up. This would have come from someone. They sometimes print things they don't really believe, but they'll have a source. In this case my money would be on Lambert's agent, trying to pressure saints. But it would have come from, interested club,selling club,player,agent or teammate. A journo did not just pluck this out of thin air to fill column inches. Not too sure about that. A recently deceased Sunday paper would regularly make snippet rumours up. I know because I used to sit in a London pub doing it with him and bingo, there it is word for word on the Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 If you solely deal in balck and white on a football forum you are going to be frustrated, I suggest a God forum or something like that, football the game I love is about opinions and in some part conjecture. Lol..God Forum, what is that.. Conjecture is one thing but to use it to make it out to be true, makes you easily led... I use facts, those things that are real to make my mind up not just accept that because someone says it or prints it it must be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Lol..God Forum, what is that.. Conjecture is one thing but to use it to make it out to be true, makes you easily led... I use facts, those things that are real to make my mind up not just accept that because someone says it or prints it it must be true Its a fact its in the paper, its highly probable as well this is in motion, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 I think the biggest give away on Lambert was yesterdays game. He looked really disinterested and without energy to his performance. His goal lightened an otherwise grey performance IMO. Rubbish. He got injured early in game. He's not going to go. He leads the line well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 You could say that about most of our team yesterday; it was lightweight from a lot of them, doing as little as they could get away with........not just Lambert. perhaps most of them were a bit surprised to be playing after what the manager had been saying beforehand. Rotation blah blah blah, opportunities for young players blah,blah but in the end all we changed was the 2 CBs and JRod and Lallana got a few minutes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Lambert may lack the pace to stretch a defence, but he gives us real shape and intelligence. Thought j rod up top in both Burnley and particularly Chelsea showed what we miss when Lambert isn't about. If Lambert goes it would leave us with osvaldo for me as the only front line striker. Just can't see that happening before we bring in a replacement who has established themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Its a fact its in the paper, its highly probable as well this is in motion, deal with it. Do you class everything you read as fact? Lambert won't be going without better replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 Lambert may lack the pace to stretch a defence, but he gives us real shape and intelligence. Thought j rod up top in both Burnley and particularly Chelsea showed what we miss when Lambert isn't about. If Lambert goes it would leave us with osvaldo for me as the only front line striker. Just can't see that happening before we bring in a replacement who has established themselves Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 January, 2014 Share Posted 5 January, 2014 This is all a load of tosh . I'm sure Rickie said he wanted to end his playing career with us when he signed an extension to his contract . Sorry gutter press spinning stories to unsettle a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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