angelman Posted 17 January, 2014 Posted 17 January, 2014 Good question Bewildered, but in honesty, if he got £7m that would have been a good price. But.....who was the replacement and how far would £7m go? Personally, I am happy (especially as it isn't my money) to not cash in on those who have given excellent service to the club. I think it important that clubs recognise those that have given a lot and try and use them as much as possible, rather than farm them out when they get towards the end of their career.
GAS Posted 17 January, 2014 Posted 17 January, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-news-dani-osvaldo-3033473?#.Utm8ORyQFD0 "Cortese was negotiating a £7m move for Rickie Lambert to West Ham days before his exit but that looks to have stalled. England striker Lambert wants to stay at Saints and has two-and-a-half years left on his contract."Lamberts body language in a few games before this seem to indictate he knew about the transfer and I suspect he wasn't over the moon with it. So we have Cortese orchestrating transfer moves and therefore influencing team selection and K Liebherr saying nobody is going in January. I'm trusting that she has her Dad's genes.
Graffito Posted 17 January, 2014 Posted 17 January, 2014 Lamberts body language in a few games before this seem to indictate he knew about the transfer and I suspect he wasn't over the moon with it. So we have Cortese orchestrating transfer moves and therefore influencing team selection and K Liebherr saying nobody is going in January. I'm trusting that she has her Dad's genes. Think he'll score tomorrow.
SNSUN Posted 17 January, 2014 Posted 17 January, 2014 well, THIS is funny http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=151384&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=320 On the first page: "The Kiss of Death page". Yep, sure was. That's why I'm uncomfortable on here when people announce things prematurely...
James Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 Something was definitely up with Lambert the last few weeks. Maybe it was him not wanting to leave and Cortese forcing it through that was the cause (if reports that he wants to stay and the deal is now stalling are true).
RonManager Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 Rickie will never leave Saints. Which could be a bit of a problem in 30 years time.
Colinjb Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 Rickie will never leave Saints. Which could be a bit of a problem in 30 years time. But nonetheless useful for penalties.
SNSUN Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 But nonetheless useful for penalties. He might have overtaken MLT's record by then. Or he'll do a Ted Bates, and be a player, manager, director and president. Then we can commission someone to do a truly awful statue of him.
RonManager Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 He might have overtaken MLT's record by then. Or he'll do a Ted Bates, and be a player, manager, director and president. Then we can commission someone to do a truly awful statue of him. Return to Hounslow West please. No I haven't got change of a £50.
forever a red and white Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 Good I hope he stays as gets back on the score sheet today!
Stud mark of doom Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-news-dani-osvaldo-3033473?#.Utm8ORyQFD0 "Cortese was negotiating a £7m move for Rickie Lambert to West Ham days before his exit but that looks to have stalled. England striker Lambert wants to stay at Saints and has two-and-a-half years left on his contract." Hmmm, what was that about Katrina appointing a top PR firm....
Barry Sanchez Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 I want the ones who hammered the people saying this is a distinct possibility less than two weeks ago commenting on this, as it was in the gutter press they said it was rubbish (a negative thread or percieved one is always dismissed as lazy journalism or absolute lies yet ones seen as postive are superb pices of work and outstanding insight) but now its in the broadsheets its seen as authentic.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 £7 mil is a hell of a lot of money to turn down for him, so I can see why NC may have been pushing him out the door.
whelk Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 £7 mil is a hell of a lot of money to turn down for him, so I can see why NC may have been pushing him out the door. Indeed but depends what happens to the £7m
Greenridge Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 I want the ones who hammered the people saying this is a distinct possibility less than two weeks ago commenting on this, Are you the forum headmaster now dune?
saintmatt Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 If true that lambert move would be cortese down to a T. Everyone's heart wants him to say, but cortese's head knows £7m is damn good money for a 31-year-old
saintmatt Posted 18 January, 2014 Posted 18 January, 2014 I think it important that clubs recognise those that have given a lot and try and use them as much as possible, rather than farm them out when they get towards the end of their career. This. Also good thing to point to when trying to convince players to join the club in the first place
Batman Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 these rumours wont go away. In that Lambert wants to go and for £70k+ a week would you blame him, going for the money?
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Maybe he wants to go for the money before Cortese and Wang Jianlin replaces him with Falcao?
SaintRichmond Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Why was Cortese trying to sell a popular player like Rickie days before he walked out on the club? Wonder who would have been taking the flak for that if it had gone through in time. Possibly, from a BUSINESS point of view, a £7M offer NOW, for a 31 year old, would have been too good an opportunity to pass up. (Not tha I would have wanted RL to leave. As in The Godfather .... " tell Michael it was just business "
Huffton Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Spoke to someome yesterday who knows him, so this is from the horses mouth pretty much. Rickie doesn't want to leave as he and his family are settled and he has a good deal at Saints, however the clubs had pretty much agreed a fee. WHU have offered him a 3 year deal on double the money he's on now. He's leaving it as late as possible to before deciding to see what happens here.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Spoke to someome yesterday who knows him, so this is from the horses mouth pretty much. Rickie doesn't want to leave as he and his family are settled and he has a good deal at Saints, however the clubs had pretty much agreed a fee. WHU have offered him a 3 year deal on double the money he's on now. He's leaving it as late as possible to before deciding to see what happens here. so in fact we do have plans to sell a player then....surely that can't be right.
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 so in fact we do have plans to sell a player then....surely that can't be right. I'm assuming when Huffton said "had agreed a fee" that this was prior to the departure of Cortese and KL's statement.
Saint_Tony Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 these rumours wont go away. In that Lambert wants to go and for £70k+ a week would you blame him, going for the money? No. He's a legend already, and owes us nothing. For whatever reason, by his own high standards. things haven't been going as well for him in the last couple of months. However, it looks increasingly likely that West Ham will be going down to the Championship and I think he will stay. Many on here think he's finished all of a sudden but I disagree.On soccer sarturday, Merson claimed he would love to go there. MLT asked why, but got cut off, although he kept quite quiet throughout whilst the others were discussing us
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I'm assuming when Huffton said "had agreed a fee" that this was prior to the departure of Cortese and KL's statement. You'd have to assume that wouldn't you and that any deal is now off, ie having no plans so Rickie has nothing to decide on at all for the immediate future. Otherwise it would be in total contradiction of the statement from the owner on Friday.
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 You'd have to assume that wouldn't you and that any deal is now off, ie having no plans so Rickie has nothing to decide on at all for the immediate future. Otherwise it would be in total contradiction of the statement from the owner on Friday. Not really. The statement reads: “My belief has not changed from a week ago. No player that I don’t want to leave will leave this club.” Perhaps she -or at least Les- wants RL to leave.
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 If he goes to West Ham then he won't be going to Brazil. Carroll is always going to be ahead of him.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 If he goes to West Ham then he won't be going to Brazil. Carroll is always going to be ahead of him. I don't think he's going to Brazil at this moment anyway, far too many strikers are way in front of him just now. I'd say that Lallana is the only Saints player in contention for England at this time and he neeeds not to have too many more games like yesterday either.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Not really. The statement reads: “My belief has not changed from a week ago. No player that I don’t want to leave will leave this club.” Perhaps she -or at least Les- wants RL to leave. No that's Mauricio's statement, the owner's statement says we have no plans to sell any players in the transfer window. The owners statement is incorrectly worded at best because it just doesn't reflect what Mauricio's say at all.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 We can't let him go without bringing someone else in. Osvaldo is almost certain to pick up an injury or another suspension at some point in the rest of the season.
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 No that's Mauricio's statement, the owner's statement says we have no plans to sell any players in the transfer window. The owners statement is incorrectly worded at best because it just doesn't reflect what Mauricio's say at all. True -though her statement is ultimately read to mean that she wont do anything MP doesn't want. Indeed, she says that explicitly elsewhere in the statement. To that extent, I see her statement being superseded by MP's more conditional one.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) maybe it is lambert who really wants out but Hufton says he doesn't, in fact the whole thing is contradictory. From what Hufton says we had plans to sell him and that it's he who doesn't want to go but that he might consider it if we insist because it's good money anyway. Looking at the various statements you'd have to assume that Mauricio doesn't want him here (if he's eventually sold that is) Then again perhaps Mauricio wants signings and there's no money to do that unless we sell RL. Edited 19 January, 2014 by Window Cleaner
dubai_phil Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 but Hufton says he doesn't, in fact the whole thing is contradictory. From what Hufton says we had plans to sell him and that it's he who doesn't want to go but that he might consider it if we insist because it's god money anyway. Looking at the various statements you'd have to assume that Mauricio doesn't want him here (if he's eventually sold that is) Then again perhaps Mauricio wants signings and there's no money to do that unless we sell RL. Perhaps we have another Dejan quality player lined up. 7milfor Rickie IF we had to sell before we could buy would be the easiest deal for the club to take. Where that then puts our striking options - means Osvaldo & JRod sharing them with Gallagher getting more game time - not ideal but makes some sense. Anyway perhaps WBA may come to the party - sold Long and being told their sponsor will pull out IF they play Anelka against Everton Monday... Bidding War time get the price up to 10 and say thanks SRL. (I want him to stay btw)
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Perhaps we have another Dejan quality player lined up. 7milfor Rickie IF we had to sell before we could buy would be the easiest deal for the club to take. Where that then puts our striking options - means Osvaldo & JRod sharing them with Gallagher getting more game time - not ideal but makes some sense. Anyway perhaps WBA may come to the party - sold Long and being told their sponsor will pull out IF they play Anelka against Everton Monday... Bidding War time get the price up to 10 and say thanks SRL. (I want him to stay btw) As you say certain scenarios are possible but at the end of the day (if any of this is vaguely correct) you have to admit one of two things. Either we did have plans to sell a player or if you consider Mauricio's statement to be the most binding then he doesn't want to retain Lambert.
Huffton Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 The other consideration would be does the WHU offer contain a relegation clause? I fail to see how they could pay him 80k a week in the championship.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 The other consideration would be does the WHU offer contain a relegation clause? I fail to see how they could pay him 80k a week in the championship. Same as they did last time by bouncing straight back up I'd suppose. When do they get the Olympic Stadium ?
SaintRichmond Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 so in fact we do have plans to sell a player then....surely that can't be right. ONLY players that Pochettino agrees can leave ..... (according to him/or his interpreter)
Saint Charlie Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 If we got a good offer for Lambert and could replace him with someone better for the long term then I could see it happening. He has been average this season as a whole.
View From The Top Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 Lambert to WHU and Demba Ba in on loan with Chelsea subsidising his wages.
DT Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 Lambert to WHU and Demba Ba in on loan with Chelsea subsidising his wages. is that a wish or is it happening?
John Boy Saint Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 Lambert to WHU and Demba Ba in on loan with Chelsea subsidising his wages. Wow we must really have sinned against the Footballing Gods................ Relatives are Chelsea ST holders and despite their sometimes arrogant Special One'esk attitude not even they would wish that on us!!
PaulSaint Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 Torres was injured yesterday, Ba is back in favor again. Source - Mourinho's interview from yesterday.
S-Clarke Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 Yeah, Jose pretty much said Ba is going no where - they need him.
derry Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 Until we have a replacement signed I can't see Lambert leaving especially as Osvaldo is still work in progress.
Saint Garrett Posted 20 January, 2014 Posted 20 January, 2014 Lambert to WHU and Demba Ba in on loan with Chelsea subsidising his wages. Doubt it, Sure WHU would prefer to just sign Demba Ba on loan....he won't leave though IMO unless Chelsea buy a top striker.
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