Lets B Avenue Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 The post I commented on was referring to their next league game but I'll give you a point anyway No it wasn't. Difficult to see them losing consecutive home games even if they have lost their manager...despite their problems they still have some quality players who can hurt us 2 points please. :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Daniel Storey @danielstorey85 Early standout Spurs manager price: Pochettino 33/1 (BetVictor). Cracking value I'd say. down to about half of thet now though, some strange candidates in the front runners, like Tim Sherwood and Glen Hoddle, both shorter odds than MPo, Capello is favourite though, then Laudrup. I mean Hoddle, that is just daylight robbery, bloke is a dinosaur totally out of touch with real football, bookies are just playing on the emotions of your average thick Spurs fan there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 No it wasn't. Oh yes it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Oh yes it was Is this a 5 minute argument, or did I pay for the full 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 December, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Hoddle's last game as Spurs manager was against us. We got him sacked after winning 3-1 at the lane, Beattie scored a belter of a free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 There'll be a big ol' fuss about this game if Capello is appointed this week. Still a massive name in world football and a lot of journos/broadcasters have a bit of unfinished business with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 MAIN BOARDERS: stevegrant asked me to remind you to vote in the Saintsweb end of year awards pls. You do not have to vote for stevegrant, but he is offering 50% rebate on subscription renewal if you do. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F9NDRBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Nobody likes playing a team right after they've had a management change, but Spurs looked dreadful when they were being pressed yesterday. They wanted too long on the ball and hardly anyone was creating pass options for the player in possession. When they didn't have possession, Spurs were slow to pick up the pass options that Liverpool were creating. Problems like that are very difficult to address in the short term, even with the uptick that usually comes with a new manager, especially as the root cause can be fitness levels or players who just aren't suited to the high-intensity PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 There'll be a big ol' fuss about this game if Capello is appointed this week. Still a massive name in world football and a lot of journos/broadcasters have a bit of unfinished business with him. doesn't he still have a job with the Russian National side ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 doesn't he still have a job with the Russian National side ? Yes, but he could do both. Like Guus Hiddink did with Chelsea/Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 So back to next Sunday. Do Spurs have a fit left back other than the kid they sent on in the second half yesterday? Rose went off at half time in their EL game, Naughton went off at half time yesterday so it could be they'll be down to their 4th stringer again . That would have to be good news for us because even Sterling took him apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Chris Foy is the ref for this one Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Yes, but he could do both. Like Guus Hiddink did with Chelsea/Russia. Not in a World Cup year with Russia Qualified surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Not in a World Cup year with Russia Qualified surely? that's what I thought. The Russians go into their 2 month winter break soon but after that it's a full time job preparing for the World Cup.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 @jordansibley: Great media department planning meeting today, plenty of new and exciting projects coming up over the next few weeks #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 @jordansibley: Great media department planning meeting today, plenty of new and exciting projects coming up over the next few weeks #saintsfc Like a profile of Jason Dodd: Caretaker Manager. "Our hunt for the right man" Les Reed speaks out as the search continues. "Our dream is real" Owen Coyle's vision for taking Saints into the top four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 @jordansibley: Great media department planning meeting today, plenty of new and exciting projects coming up over the next few weeks #saintsfc pls pls more funfairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 @jordansibley: Great media department planning meeting today, plenty of new and exciting projects coming up over the next few weeks #saintsfc I think the Club are looking for quite a few new staff members, business manager is one of them I think, Ticket Office Manager is another so they'll probably need a bit of a media circus when they fill those posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 MAIN BOARDERS: stevegrant asked me to remind you to vote in the Saintsweb end of year awards pls. You do not have to vote for stevegrant, but he is offering 50% rebate on subscription renewal if you do. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F9NDRBT I liked the fact that there were plenty of opportunities to write my own name in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Disclaimer - If you have found any of Smirking_Saints posts in any way helpful, or even if you haven't please take the time to vote for him in this officially verified poll https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F9NDRBT NB - Did you know a recent survey found all other nominees to be portsmouth fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 16 December, 2013 Share Posted 16 December, 2013 Don't know if it's been mentioned but ex skate Sherwood is in temporary charge. Pompey and spurs, that'll be some reception. We are firm favourites for this clash and I would be happy with nothing but a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 That some reason would probably be winning the league\cup & European cup in 1 season with Porto, he had a 85% win record with them... incredible. He had a 47% win ratio with Chelsea and has a 55% win ratio with Spurs, he has the potential to be a top top coach. 'This whole "win ratio" b0ll0cks is starting to do my head in. For a starter, his win ratio includes less games than his predecessors (because he keeps getting sacked for being, errr, rubbish). Secondly, Spurs were massively carried by Bale last season. Irrespective of the above, if you've ever watched football at any great length then surely you'd recognise a poorly organised, motivated and coached side if you see one? AVB was utter dross at Chelsea and has been utter dross at Spurs (with the exception of Bale dragging them out of the crap last year). Ask some Spurs fans - the general feeling and consensus is what I've said above and what I've been saying for frickin' months - AVB is a Mancini clone; Has no presence, is ruled by his players and has absolutely no idea how to motivate or coach a football team. Their teams have no pattern of play, they're just a group of players thrown together, hoping that one of their individual stars will see them through (see Bale last season, see Mancini in their title-winning season... yes, they won the title but it should have been at a canter). Both have underperformed spectacularly in the respective roles for the money lavished on those squads. I'm not joking, Tony Pulis could do far better with that kind of money at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 'This whole "win ratio" b0ll0cks is starting to do my head in. For a starter, his win ratio includes less games than his predecessors (because he keeps getting sacked for being, errr, rubbish). . Errr that is how ratios work. Would you prefer absolutes ie he lost less games cos he managed less? And utter dross - you do know they are above us in the league? Got a couple of high profile televised spankings admittedly but here is a good article about why he went http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10521678/Tottenham-chairman-Daniel-Levy-and-manager-Andre-Villas-Boas-had-become-distant.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Errr that is how ratios work. Would you prefer absolutes ie he lost less games cos he managed less? And utter dross - you do know they are above us in the league? Got a couple of high profile televised spankings admittedly but here is a good article about why he went http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10521678/Tottenham-chairman-Daniel-Levy-and-manager-Andre-Villas-Boas-had-become-distant.html Exactly that. And how can he be so rubbish if his win ratio is so high? What else is there to really judge on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Don't know if it's been mentioned but ex skate Sherwood is in temporary charge. Pompey and spurs, that'll be some reception. We are firm favourites for this clash and I would be happy with nothing but a win. Didn't he have a spin on the Blackburn Merry-go-round just recently? Chris Foy ref, hope the wind is blowing in our favour with him as he can be a bit of a funny bugger sometimes: being the cynic that I am, I fully expect the directive has gone out already from the FA to Old Mother Riley at the Refs club to be kind to Spurs on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Exactly that. And how can he be so rubbish if his win ratio is so high? What else is there to really judge on? You can't hide the fact that early on this season they did get some wins via dubious soft penalties awarded in their favour, penalties that just about every ref on every other game has done that "No Penalty!" Both arms out Aeroplane impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Don't know if it's been mentioned but ex skate Sherwood is in temporary charge. Pompey and spurs, that'll be some reception. We are firm favourites for this clash and I would be happy with nothing but a win. Might be a bit over exigent then, we will still have Gazza in goal any with that anything could happen. A win would be good but with our keeper situation you just can't guarantee that. We could easily have lost 3-1 last saturday if Newcastle had converted Gazza's gifts as they should have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Might be a bit over exigent then, we will still have Gazza in goal any with that anything could happen. A win would be good but with our keeper situation you just can't guarantee that. We could easily have lost 3-1 last saturday if Newcastle had converted Gazza's gifts as they should have done. If Hooiveld hadn't mis-kicked then we could easily have won 1-0. If Rodriguez had buried that header at the back post at 1-1 then we could have easily won 2-1. If Davis' shot had been 2 inches to the right we could have won 2-1. If's, but's, maybe's. Gazza has done ok for a young lad not expected to play this season. Give him a break. That back pass from Lallana was hardly easy for him to deal with with a man bearing down on him in a stadium like St James' Park. Composure for him will come in time and through experience; there's no way for him to get that without playing. I think when Boruc comes back, and Davis is fit again, we should loan him out to get some game time. I genuinely think he could be a fantastic keeper for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Might be a bit over exigent then, we will still have Gazza in goal any with that anything could happen. A win would be good but with our keeper situation you just can't guarantee that. We could easily have lost 3-1 last saturday if Newcastle had converted Gazza's gifts as they should have done. "over exigent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 "over exigent"? http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/exigent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/exigent So "exigent". in fact. OK. Sorry I just wasn't sure what he meant but I think I get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFSFC Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 ]There sniffing around pochettino as well.[/[/b]QUOTE] They're sniffing around pochettino as well Do you feel better about yourself now? Clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Seems a long time since our last win. Spurs are there for the taking, we need to blow them away on Saturday and build on 2 solid draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Seems a long time since our last win. Spurs are there for the taking, we need to blow them away on Saturday and build on 2 solid draws. Sunday, Nik. Have a lie-in on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Seems a long time since our last win. Spurs are there for the taking, we need to blow them away on Saturday and build on 2 solid draws. it is a long time (well football time anyway) Hull at home, 9th November so that'll be about 6 weeks come Sunday and 5 games. Managers have been sacked for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Might be a bit over exigent then, we will still have Gazza in goal any with that anything could happen. A win would be good but with our keeper situation you just can't guarantee that. We could easily have lost 3-1 last saturday if Newcastle had converted Gazza's gifts as they should have done. So long as the players fully understand how exigent the situation is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 'Exigent' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynesparksaint Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Who is out for Spurs? Paulinho and Sandro? Think Dawson only misses their league cup game this week, should be back to play us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 Who is out for Spurs? Paulinho and Sandro? Think Dawson only misses their league cup game this week, should be back to play us? depends where they are with their left backs, Naughton and Rose are both doubtful I think. Then you have the never ending list of Vermeulen, Kaboul etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 It'll be really interesting to see which side they out out tomorrow. Sherwood, to give himself the best possible chance of getting the job, will surely put out the best available side, which opens up the possibility of more injuries/suspensions and fatigue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 It'll be really interesting to see which side they out out tomorrow. Sherwood, to give himself the best possible chance of getting the job, will surely put out the best available side, which opens up the possibility of more injuries/suspensions and fatigue I doubt he'll be judged by the League Cup game alone, though he'll obviously want to get off to a good start. Sunday will be more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 (edited) No - listen, here's a really good idea. What do you think of this - it might just work..... Let's play ............. Lambert and Osvsldo up front !!! Let's try it just once more- it might work but even it doesn't let's try it lots more incase one day it does work. Osvaldo needs tiiiiiiiiimmmmme and so let's try the two together again.....looks great on paper - I'm not sure why we don't do it every game instead of almost every game... Practice makes perfect and it's only the Spuds...... Seriously Maurice please don't do it yet again - it doesn't work, won't work and we've seen it be a definate flop enough times now..... Somehow though I can see MP doing it yet again ! Edited 17 December, 2013 by captainchris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 So glad that wasn't us scoring the winning goal against Chelsea. Much rather qualify for champions league. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 17 December, 2013 Share Posted 17 December, 2013 No - listen, here's a really good idea. What do you think of this - it might just work..... Let's play ............. Lambert and Osvsldo up front !!! Let's try it just once more- it might work but even it doesn't let's try it lots more incase one day it does work. Osvaldo needs tiiiiiiiiimmmmme and so let's try the two together again.....looks great on paper - I'm not sure why we don't do it every game instead of almost every game... Practice makes perfect and it's only the Spuds...... Seriously Maurice please don't do it yet again - it doesn't work, won't work and we've seen it be a definate flop enough times now..... Somehow though I can see MP doing it yet again ! What would you do instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 December, 2013 Share Posted 18 December, 2013 depends where they are with their left backs, Naughton and Rose are both doubtful I think. Then you have the never ending list of Vermeulen, Kaboul etc. The Arsenal defender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 18 December, 2013 Share Posted 18 December, 2013 The win ratio stuff is meaningless. Whether you think someone is brilliant or useless, it should be based on a lot more than that. As usual, spurs like any other club roll out these stats and compare to other managers. It only gets covered because football fans think their club is something constant. In reality, what the hell does AVB's job have to do with Ardilles in 1994?! Or even Hoddles? A rating system that ignores league, players, fixtures, expectations, finances and a million other factors could only satisfy the most simple-minded. I suppose it's far quicker than having to think through an actual opinion though. I was replying to someone saying that the ratio meant nothing as was over a shorter period which is a flawed logic. The obsession by Sky Sports news with stats gets on my tits but they have space to fill As in my post I put a link that said the reason why AVB was sacked. Regarding your little rant directed at the 'simple-minded' - who are these people? Think you are only one getting worked up about a statistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 December, 2013 Share Posted 18 December, 2013 The Arsenal defender? wrong name then, the other Belgian thug that they've got at Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 18 December, 2013 Share Posted 18 December, 2013 The win ratio stuff is meaningless. Whether you think someone is brilliant or useless, it should be based on a lot more than that. As usual, spurs like any other club roll out these stats and compare to other managers. It only gets covered because football fans think their club is something constant. In reality, what the hell does AVB's job have to do with Ardilles in 1994?! Or even Hoddles? A rating system that ignores league, players, fixtures, expectations, finances and a million other factors could only satisfy the most simple-minded. I suppose it's far quicker than having to think through an actual opinion though. How can a manager's win ratio be meaningless? The number of games he wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 18 December, 2013 Share Posted 18 December, 2013 wrong name then, the other Belgian thug that they've got at Spurs. Thug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 18 December, 2013 Share Posted 18 December, 2013 Vertonghen is no thug...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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