Mr X Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 newcastle much the better team up front hopefully a change of plan second half!
Batman Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Just an opinion I have; if you're an injury doubt and not fit enough to start, you shouldn't be on the bench. Especially so for a centre back, and there is another CB on the bench with you. CBs are on the bench largely for defensive cover, not to shake things up or change formation. If he's not fit to start he should sit out IMO (although admittedly that is rather a black and white approach). I agree yet so many managers dont see it that way some players are in the sqaud knowing they only have 30 mins. or say 70 mins playing time dave moyes said as such about RvP last week. he kept him on as they were chasing the game and now he is out for 8 games for not taking him off at the 60 min mark (which his fitness team told him was his limit)
Roger Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Who is wearing the #7 and what has he done with Rickie Lambert? Really poor in recent weeks. Slow, ponderous and wasteful. Sub him please... Better than osvaldo who has been so lazy it's untrue.
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Osvaldo had two players free on the edge of the box there. If he could have just laid it off first time we would have been in but instead he tries to dance through the defence himself and loses out.
Ohio Saint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Some horrific posting on here too For a saints web thread.....you aint seen nothing yet!
verlaine1979 Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Haven't laid a glove on them so far. JWP pass-back our only effort on target.
dubai_phil Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 For a saints web thread.....you aint seen nothing yet! We've still got Alpine on the bench...........
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 we are missing Wanyama big time they are going right through us Yep. The possession stats show us as having 67%, but Newcastle move the ball forwards so much more quickly than us and that is the difference. No point having 67% possession if all you are going to do is keep passing back to the keeper and then launching hopeful balls forward.
DuncanRG Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 We're really lacking a midfield base. Morgan on as soon as his fitness allows and Lallana for Lambert.
S-Clarke Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Get Lambert off ASAP, he's killing any attack we have with his poor use of the ball and poor touch. he's having a mare right now, needs to be dropped for a while.
Ohio Saint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 It's still only 1-0 but could be more. Hoping for a good half time assessment from MP. This could still turn around for us with the right subs. No too downhearted yet.........yet.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Changes at half time... Adam will be on pretty soon i reckon
Saint Charlie Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Hooiveld has never been a PL quality player, one of the worst CBs in the league easily. Amazed he is still here.
Dr. Kucho Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Bring on Lallana and Morgan early in the second half and lets kick some Geordie butts. Cork and Chambers having good games, Shaw and JWP also decent. I dont want to jump the bandwagon, but Gazza scares me everytime Newcastle attack. Would Cropper be an improvement? I dont know how long Gazza,s deal run for, but I cant see the club handing him a new one. 1 down, all is not lost. COYR
northam soul Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 As an attacking unit that has been a disgrace. Lambert , Rodriguez ,Osvaldo and Davis / Ward Prowse. Some poor defending also. Only chambers looking interested. Newcastle are teaching us how to press and their movement is much better.
Batman Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 well. loads of possession but that is from the back 5. no real attacking threat at all. Ossie has had abolsutely nothing. they are getting through us all too easily shocking defending for their goal. gazza does not look comfortable but he is all we have for now can see lallana coming of real soon
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Hooiveld has never been a PL quality player, one of the worst CBs in the league easily. Amazed he is still here. I take it from that remark you have seen them all play
S-Clarke Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 When people were debating if Wanyama was good enough for us, I mentioned that teams no longer attack through us and very few shots are got away from the edge of the box. For some reason I was sarcastically ripped for saying that, however it's plainly true to me that Wanyama gave us that protection as without him we are taken on time, and time again through the middle. As good technicaally as Morgan and Cork were last year, we were way too easy to play through and that's why Wanyama was a priority addition.
Avenue Saint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Would love to see gaston play number 10 behind osvaldo, with Lallana and JRod either side. Oh and pair up Morgan and cork in the middle.
OttawaSaint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Bah frustrating we seem to gift the opposition a goal each week and then have to work really hard to get one ourselves. Hopefully we can dig in and get a goal or 2 in the 2nd half.
Saint Charlie Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 I take it from that remark you have seen them all play Most of them yes. Can you name any that are worse?
S-Clarke Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Jos is pretty poor to be honest, never really a player for this level, which is backed up quite alarmingly by 1) the number of OG's he gets, and 2) the amount of goals we concede with him in the side. It's not a coincidence.
warsash saint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Some horrific posting on here too You sound surprised!! Wait for full time when all the bedwetters arrive!
thorpie the sinner Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Adam on, change of strategy and a 2 1 saints victory coming up!!
Mr X Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Hooiveld has never been a PL quality player, one of the worst CBs in the league easily. Amazed he is still here. overreaction.com he's nowhere nr the worst CB in the league and you know it
S-Clarke Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Adam on, change of strategy and a 2 1 saints victory coming up!! That's the spirit Reckon that will happen too..
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Most of them yes. Can you name any that are worse? Not seen them enough to make such judgements...
Ohio Saint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Another horrific post maybe, but for some reason I'm half expecting Gallagher to come on at some point. Maybe I'm just drunk and don't know it yet.
JoeShmoe Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Get Lambert off ASAP, he's killing any attack we have with his poor use of the ball and poor touch. he's having a mare right now, needs to be dropped for a while. I agree, it's a big drop off from him since his England games. I'd take him off, get Ramirez on and got back to 4-2-3-1 Chambers again looks excellent, Hooiveld isnt good enough
thorpie the sinner Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 That's the spirit Reckon that will happen too.. It's my first post in 3 and a half years, might as well make it positive lol
Saint Charlie Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 overreaction.com he's nowhere nr the worst CB in the league and you know it He will be one of the worst to play 5-10 PL games this season. Nearly every game he gifts the opposition a good chance. PL is an unforgiving league where any weakness is exposed.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 You sound surprised!! Wait for full time when all the bedwetters arrive! Not really mate been coming on here for along time...just a bit pathetic some of the posting
Roger Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Get Lambert off ASAP, he's killing any attack we have with his poor use of the ball and poor touch. he's having a mare right now, needs to be dropped for a while. Osvaldo has been worse. No effort.
S-Clarke Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Osvaldo has been worse. No effort. No, he hasn't been worse. At least he's able to control a ball at the moment!
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Osvaldo has been worse. No effort. No worse no better if you could be honest about it The bit about no effort is utter ******
Roger Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 No, he hasn't been worse. At least he's able to control a ball at the moment! No he really has. No effort whatsoever.
DuncanRG Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 We were very good defensively at the end of last season with Hooiveld in the side. Boruc's presence makes a big difference.
JoeShmoe Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 Morgan and Lallana for Osvaldo as Ward-Prowse
thornhill_saints Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 As an attacking unit that has been a disgrace. Lambert , Rodriguez ,Osvaldo and Davis / Ward Prowse. Some poor defending also. Only chambers looking interested. Newcastle are teaching us how to press and their movement is much better. So Lambert hasn't been defended at all then? I'm sure he was down defending when I watched it?
CanadaSaint Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 I hope MP had a good reason for changing the side that outplayed City for a fair chunk of last week's game but it'll take two subs to do that. If we'd kept the same team I think the score would have been reversed. Still, I like the changes and think we can win this.
Saint-Reece Posted 14 December, 2013 Posted 14 December, 2013 No he really has. No effort whatsoever. Get your head out of Lamberts arse and accept he wasn't very good first half FFS
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