Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 ****. This is the worst injury crisis I can remember in years. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2519008/Southampton-injury-problems-deepen-Victor-Wanyama-ruled-weeks.html
hans gruber Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 i hope gaston can play defensive mid.....
trousers Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Looking on the bright side, just think how fresh and raring to go our players will be in time for the relegation battle in the spring
Delboy Dave Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 ******. Time for you Cork to show us what we've been missing my son!
Cascadia Saint Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 I thought he was made of concrete. Guzan is dead after such a collision I assume.
Shanghai Saint Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Cork can cover Victor but I am worried about replacing Clyne - didn't he go off with a hamstring? Maya and Chambers don't inspire me and we lose the right hand side going forwards.
CB Saint Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Reminds me when we lost Niemi, Killer Oakley and beattie at the same time - the entire spine of our team at the time The special one was right when he said you needed 23 first team players to succeed in the EPL. We have 16 (at best).
Saint Garrett Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Oh brilliant. Going to be a very tough few weeks.
Dr Who? Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 We knew this would happen with injuries and our lack of depth in the squad. If we kept everyone fit we would have finished top 6, but will find it hard now. This is football, it happens to the best teams when they have key players out. We need to hand around the top half, so we can attract players in January. Going to be a very tough December for us. Good job we got a nice amount of points on the board at the start of the season. Shame it has happened just after last weekends article in the daily mail about our preparation for games.
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 As reveled by me yesterday evening. Another Turkish exclusive!
Saint Charlie Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Just one of those weeks. Since Boruc ****ed about at Arsenal its been a disaster. Could well lose 6 or 7 in a row now!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Like ive said a number of times...... If the pressing game was easy EVERYONE would do it!!
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Just one of those weeks. Since Boruc ****ed about at Arsenal its been a disaster. Could well lose 6 or 7 in a row now! You are supposed to be positive, chin up Charl we may get something yet.
Saint Charlie Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 You are supposed to be positive, chin up Charl we may get something yet. Its the truth Baz.
S-Clarke Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 That's a bit of a bugger, and here we all were worrying about the yellow he'd pick up....who gives a **** about that now!!! We'd been very lucky with injures up until now, but this is as bad as I can remember for a long time. This high powered game has cost us here.
Shroppie Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 (edited) How far is Morgan from coming back? Not the end of the world if he can recreate his partnership with Cork. Edited 6 December, 2013 by Shroppie
OldNick Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 where are all the , 'we should have played our best team against Sunderland' voices now. This is what people were warning of,injuries and suspensions due to too many games especially with our style of football
angelman Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Cork can cover Victor but I am worried about replacing Clyne - didn't he go off with a hamstring? Maya and Chambers don't inspire me and we lose the right hand side going forwards. I agree. Boruc - Gazza or Kelvin is not ideal but hope Gazza can come through OK. Still can't understand why we spent £2.5m on him. Clyne - hmmmm. Maybe JWP can drop back Spider and Wanyama - I like Steven Davis and am happy there. Cork, if he can get back up to where he was last season might be OK. We are a bit light esp if JWP drops into RB. One would hope that Gaston might be able to step up to the plate and show what he's made of, but......!!! BTW, does anyone know how Isgrove is getting on? He seemed to do well in pre-season. When we played 3 at the back on Wednesday, it got me sitting on the edge of my seat a wee bit too much. Given that we had 77% of the possession I can see why that was OK, but I can't see that happening against City and having only 3 at the back would be suicide.
SaintNeil90 Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 I agree. Boruc - Gazza or Kelvin is not ideal but hope Gazza can come through OK. Still can't understand why we spent £2.5m on him. Clyne - hmmmm. Maybe JWP can drop back Spider and Wanyama - I like Steven Davis and am happy there. Cork, if he can get back up to where he was last season might be OK. We are a bit light esp if JWP drops into RB. One would hope that Gaston might be able to step up to the plate and show what he's made of, but......!!! BTW, does anyone know how Isgrove is getting on? He seemed to do well in pre-season. When we played 3 at the back on Wednesday, it got me sitting on the edge of my seat a wee bit too much. Given that we had 77% of the possession I can see why that was OK, but I can't see that happening against City and having only 3 at the back would be suicide. We had 4 at the back! Fonte was playing RB, hence his position when crossing for Osvaldo's goal.
JoeShmoe Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 I agree. Clyne - hmmmm. Maybe JWP can drop back /QUOTE] Whats wrong with Chambers filling in? A few players are going to have to step up, some of them international players lets not forget- injuries are part of the game, all teams have them, just get on with it
angelman Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Most of the second half we had 3 as Luke Shaw was much further up on the wing and didn't drop back into defence. Lovren took his place.
Mowgli Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Cork can cover Victor but I am worried about replacing Clyne - didn't he go off with a hamstring? Maya and Chambers don't inspire me and we lose the right hand side going forwards. If Chambers does not impress you there is really not much hope. He was brilliant early in the season
Mowgli Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 We had 4 at the back! Fonte was playing RB, hence his position when crossing for Osvaldo's goal. you need to mention this to MP as he thought it was 3-4-3. Yes Fonte did get the cross in. Mainly because he was caught with the ball high up with few options to offload.
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Bugger. I was looking forward to seeing Victor against Toure.
Saint_Tony Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 So no Wanyama or Schneirderlin. Who exactly is going to stop Yaya Toure????!!
stevegrant Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 where are all the , 'we should have played our best team against Sunderland' voices now. This is what people were warning of,injuries and suspensions due to too many games especially with our style of football We "rested" them all in that game to avoid injuries and yet they've all got injured anyway, so as it turned out we might as well have played them in that game for all the good the rest did them.
ART Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Mick Channon once said one could tell how much pressure a manager puts players under by the number of players on the injury list. I've felt we had the squad to take an injury crisis but the importance will be Pochettino's team selections. He got it pretty wrong last game playing Yoshida rather than Hooivelt.
Olallana Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 We "rested" them all in that game to avoid injuries and yet they've all got injured anyway, so as it turned out we might as well have played them in that game for all the good the rest did them. And might have an extra midweek game coming up in 1,5 week against Chelsea.....wouldn´t do much good for the squad at the moment.... Plenty of games in december already without those league cup games.
MerceSaint28 Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 So that is bad news...i think Big Vic has been immense I am amazed at the amount of people on this forum who complain about Vic and think Cork should be in the team...well he will get his chance now. Time for Cork to stop whinging in the press and produce on the field...he wanted to play and now he will
Solid Saint Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 As reveled by me yesterday evening. Another Turkish exclusive! I can vouch for that... Was hoping you would be wrong
alpine_saint Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 No Morgan. No VW. No Boruc. Hows Clyne ? We're in deep sh*t. Too much spent on too few players.
CB Fry Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 (edited) where are all the , 'we should have played our best team against Sunderland' voices now. This is what people were warning of,injuries and suspensions due to too many games especially with our style of football I'm still here and still say we should have played a stronger team at Sunderland and tried to win our first major trophy for thirty odd years. a) we apparently rested them to concentrate on our league position, we've slipped down the table on the back of that wonderful rest they all had. b) As Steve Grant has said despite the wonderful rest they had, we've got loads of injuries. So where are all the "its brilliant we're not trying to win a trophy" voices now, then? Edited 6 December, 2013 by CB Fry
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 I'm still here and still say we should have played a stronger team at Sunderland and tried to win our first major trophy for thirty odd years. a) we apparently rested them to concentrate on our league position, we've slipped down the table on the back of that wonderful rest they all had. b) As Kraken has said despite the wonderful rest they had, we've got loads of injuries. So where are all the "its brilliant we're not trying to win a trophy" voices now, then? Including the rest they all had at Sunderland we've played 5 lost 4 and picked up loads on injuries en route. We'd have done so much worse if we'd have played a strong team that night..
Sour Mash Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 So that is bad news...i think Big Vic has been immense I am amazed at the amount of people on this forum who complain about Vic and think Cork should be in the team...well he will get his chance now. Time for Cork to stop whinging in the press and produce on the field...he wanted to play and now he will When has he been doing this? Link?
Sour Mash Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 where are all the , 'we should have played our best team against Sunderland' voices now. This is what people were warning of,injuries and suspensions due to too many games especially with our style of football If anything this proves we should have played a strong team against Sunderland. Resting them for one game hasn't really helped, we're not going to finish in the top 4 and we're not going to have a trip to Wembley or win the cup now.
melmacian_saint Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 The problem with Cork is that, while he is one of the best passers in the team and has a very neat touch of the ball, for a holding role in midfield you need to either have pace or be strong. Cork I'm afraid is neither. I am confident Wanyama, despite having way too many lapses of concentration (which Cork does not) would not have lost the challenge that led to Villa's 2nd goal. He has the presence that Cork does not provide. With Schneiderlin on the side things would be different as they complement each other quite well and Cork knows how to cover Morgan's freedom in terms of position in midfield, leaving Davis more attacking-minded, but we've yet to see a Cork/JWP central midfield pairing assuming Davis will be the more attacking minded of the 3 midfielders. And please, no 3-4-3 with our passing game like on Wednesday. The English game is too fast for it. I'd rather have two holding midfielders and go direct.
Batman Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 the resting them against sunderland has no right or wrong answer. no one will say they were wrong. the club clearly had a policy that the league cup was no.4 and a way to get the younger players a chance.....rightly or wrongly
Olallana Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 If anything this proves we should have played a strong team against Sunderland. Resting them for one game hasn't really helped, we're not going to finish in the top 4 and we're not going to have a trip to Wembley or win the cup now. You think we would´ve beaten Chelsea 1,5 week from now with the status of our squad at the moment?
SaintSteve Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 Thank God the posters on here aren't involved at the club... its a squad game.. Chambers was excellent early doors, Cork for Wanyama, Davis for Schneiderlin, Ramirez for Ward-Prowse and we will only lose 3-0 Saturday
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 the resting them against sunderland has no right or wrong answer. no one will say they were wrong. the club clearly had a policy that the league cup was no.4 and a way to get the younger players a chance.....rightly or wrongly This isnt right though is it. Only Chambers and Redd started, the rest that did were squad players like Lee, Fox and Hooliveld who we all know aren't good enough. If we'd used 4-5 young players then that is fair enough but we didn't, we used two with another as an 80th minute sub.
Batman Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 This isnt right though is it. Only Chambers and Redd started, the rest that did were squad players like Lee, Fox and Hooliveld who we all know aren't good enough. If we'd used 4-5 young players then that is fair enough but we didn't, we used two with another as an 80th minute sub. well. The club thought it was right. like I said, no one can win this arguement.
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 well. The club thought it was right. like I said, no one can win this arguement. But we're out the cup, drop 5 league places, got a stack load of injuries and lost 4 of our last 5 so it wasn't was it.
Batman Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 But we're out the cup, drop 5 league places, got a stack load of injuries and lost 4 of our last 5 so it wasn't was it. indeed. we could have stayed in the cup for another 2 rounds and dropped 9 league places
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 indeed. we could have stayed in the cup for another 2 rounds and dropped 9 league places We could have won the cup and stayed where we were too.
CB Fry Posted 6 December, 2013 Posted 6 December, 2013 You think we would´ve beaten Chelsea 1,5 week from now with the status of our squad at the moment? Why do those clubs become so difficult to beat when it is a cup game? A few weeks back people could "see no reason why we cannot finish top four". Kinda need to beat the Chelseas of this earth to do that.
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