Lighthouse Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 (edited) Okay, how about a build up thread which isn't orchestrated by a tedious troll? I would personally put Fonte back into the centre of defence. Im not entirely sure why he was dropped, unless there was some injury I missed. I'm not sure what other changes need to be made. Cork needs time and patience. I don't think we will win and we shouldn't be too disheartened if we do lose. Villa was a shock result but everyone gets those. Arsenal lost at home to Villa too, Man Utd lost at home to West Brom and Liverpool lost at home to us. Edited 5 December, 2013 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I don't think we will win and we should be too disheartened if we do lose. Good luck with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 It's going to be tough, no doubt about it, seeing as we're pulled about by a flurry of injuries. I know Gazza's been chucked in unexpectedly, but he has to speed up his reaction times and be proactive, not reactive, as he was tonight. We're on the ropes a bit, but must come out fighting and be confident in our own ability. We beat them last season that way and we can do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Can't see anything but a loss here I'm afraid. 4-1 City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Can't see anything but a loss here I'm afraid. 4-1 City. Have you at any stage ever said Saints would get a win? Are you Lawrenson in disguise or Alpines positive we'll lose persona? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I can't see anything but a defeat here, City will target our weaknesses and shoot on sight knowing Gazza has let in virtually every shot he has faced this season. he reminded me of a low Bartoz Bialowski getting up off the ground when Villa scored the third sharing at the ground not wanting to make eye contact with anyone. saints 1-4 Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 2 weeks, 4 defeats, 0 points, and a clutch of injuries could leave our confidence, morale and indeed the season in tatters. Let's pray we pull something out of the mire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 A loss. Starting to show our lack of squad depth. Bring Fonte back in though. Gazza; Clyne/Chambers Fonte Lovren Shaw; Morgan/JWP Wanyama/Cork; Davis JRod Lallana; Osvaldo Injuries permitting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 The Saints way would be to go any win this one, unfortunately though, we won't. Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 with the amount of injuries we have 3-1 loss sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Defence looks shaky and Gazza is yet to make a save(?) 4 nil I think sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Impossible to guess the team really with so many players potentially out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Anyone seen Cropper play? In for Gazza? Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Osvaldo to start Saints 2 Man City 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Think we'll get a hiding; Gazza, Clyne (Chambers), Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Wanyama (Davis), Morgan (JWP), Jay Rod, Lallana, Lambert, Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Gonna be difficult to avoid conceding goals against a prolific City side ! My prediction is that Gazza will be Saturday's scapegoat (although Ossie will obviously run him close!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Would leave Lambert on the bench and get Osvaldo and Rodriguez running directly at Kompany as much as possible. Kompany said in his interview after the West Brom game that he just wanted to keep things simple in that and not try to be a hero (incase of breaking down again with injury?). Not seen much of Demechellis either, but can't imagine he'd deal too well with being dragged all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Gonna be difficult to avoid conceding goals against a prolific City side ! My prediction is that Gazza will be Saturday's scapegoat (although Ossie will obviously run him close!!). i feel really sorry for Gazza, and want him to come good, but has he made a save yet this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I think we are starting to see that the title will be 1 from arsenal, city and chelsea. their quality and obvious squad depth is starting to show. with the CL groups all but over and the the probably purchases in january. I think any points against this lot will be very hard. man united are terrible by their standards. Everton are very good mind. spurs...have no idea how they will come liverpool are not different really. Suarez will be gone by the start of next season then you have the rest. including us. I think the relegation spots will be out of Palace, Fulham, Sunderland, West ham, Norwich, cardiff and hull. Expect west ham to pull away though odd to see norwich's super, amazing signings doing poorly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Have faith - we beat Man City last year with a weaker side than the one which will go out on Saturday (despite the injuries). You'd expect to lose away at Arsenal and Chelsea and let's face it we ran them close..we played well in patches against Villa but got hit my three sucker punch goals. Yes, we defended poorly in places but how many times do you see 3 shots, 3 goals? It's a freak result and everyone gets those. I have confidence MP will sort out the defence. Let's just get behind the team. 4 defeats from 4 wouldn't be ideal but it looks worse as a stat and not quite as bad when you consider the circumstances. We have not become a bad side in the space of one week and I sincerely hope the players know that (even though many of the usual suspects on here think otherwise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Is there much point trying to rush Clyne, Morgan and Wanyama back for this one? Fonte will come back into the middle so we will be more solid there but Yaya and Fernandinho vs Davis and Cork (or JWP) would be a huge missmatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 i feel really sorry for Gazza, and want him to come good, but has he made a save yet this season? I agree but don't expect the wrist slitters to give him even a smidgen of sympathy or encouragement !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Considering Villa scored with each attempt yesterday, we'll get hammered..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Considering Villa scored with each attempt yesterday, we'll get hammered..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Us 2-4 Them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 (edited) Considering Villa scored with each attempt yesterday, we'll get hammered..... If you get your wish you will be all over the forum lie a rash.. If not you`ll be as rare as rocking horse **** Edited 5 December, 2013 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I think a positive from all of this is that our thinness of squad is showing at just the right time before the transfer window, perhaps persuading the powers that be to hold onto players like Cork, add a decent keeper as backup, and get in some more bodies in positions like left back to avoid resorting to Fox. I think it would be just our style to now get a draw or better v Man City but have put this down as a loss (just like I did with the Villa game - thanks bookies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I agree but don't expect the wrist slitters to give him even a smidgen of sympathy or encouragement !! Considering Lovren, dived in and missed for the first, gave the ball away leading to the second and was nowhere in sight for the third what were some people seeing. Nobody criticising him, why not? Or Clyne and Lallana giving the ball away for the first and the third. He had no chance with any of the goals. Anybody who thinks he could have come for the angled cross for the second with two defenders present and probably wouldn't have got there lacks an appreciation of problem for him. He would have been slaughtered. I am confident neither Boruc or Davis would have come for it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I'm predicting that the traffic and parking in town will be pretty horrendous. Seem to be roadworks everywhere at the mo, especially at the end of the Itchen Bridge which seems to screw everything up. And combined with the queues into ikea, looks like an early start and will try to get some christmas shopping done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Some of the comments above don't seem logical to me. How do you blame Gazz for not having made a save this season when the only opposition he faced produced only 3 (lethal) shots on goal? Most commentators/watchers have agreed he was not to blame for those. I'm worried about the injuries, esp Wanyama, but Chambers has proved fantastic cover for Clyne, if need be, and Cork was one of our players of the season last time, and is likely to come good with a little more playing time. Osvaldo showing real signs of coming good. What better stage for him than Man City? Football has a huge chance element. The wailing that's going on here is like criticizing a poker player who loses after going all in with A-K against 4-6. We gave ourselves every chance to win yesterday. Just didn't happen. I think Man C may get a nasty shock Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Considering Lovren, dived in and missed for the first, gave the ball away leading to the second and was nowhere in sight for the third what were some people seeing. Nobody criticising him, why not? Or Clyne and Lallana giving the ball away for the first and the third. He had no chance with any of the goals. Anybody who thinks he could have come for the angled cross for the second with two defenders present and probably wouldn't have got there lacks an appreciation of problem for him. He would have been slaughtered. I am confident neither Boruc or Davis would have come for it either. Some of the comments above don't seem logical to me. How do you blame Gazz for not having made a save this season when the only opposition he faced produced only 3 (lethal) shots on goal? Most commentators/watchers have agreed he was not to blame for those. I'm worried about the injuries, esp Wanyama, but Chambers has proved fantastic cover for Clyne, if need be, and Cork was one of our players of the season last time, and is likely to come good with a little more playing time. Osvaldo showing real signs of coming good. What better stage for him than Man City? Football has a huge chance element. The wailing that's going on here is like criticizing a poker player who loses after going all in with A-K against 4-6. We gave ourselves every chance to win yesterday. Just didn't happen. I think Man C may get a nasty shock Sat. Exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 It would be so Saints to go and win. Lets not forget they have a poor away record. COYR 6-0 to the Saints. Nah seriously entertaining 2-2 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 2 possible scenarios, with Victor and Morgan we'll compete and have some sort of a chance of a result. Without them both, a 6-0 thumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Wanyama on crutches, Clyne groin problem should both join the long term injury list. What's the diagnosis for Morgan? What's most worrying is that I noticed Shaw was struggling and only stayed on I think because we had no subs left. He kept stretching and wouldn't run with the ball. Unfortunately I can see this: Gazza Chambers fonte lovren fox Cork JWP Rodriguez davis Lallana Lambert Cropper Hooiveld Yoshida Reed Gaston (forced decision) Osvaldo Gallagher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Have faith - we beat Man City last year with a weaker side than the one which will go out on Saturday (despite the injuries). You'd expect to lose away at Arsenal and Chelsea and let's face it we ran them close..we played well in patches against Villa but got hit my three sucker punch goals. Yes, we defended poorly in places but how many times do you see 3 shots, 3 goals? It's a freak result and everyone gets those. I have confidence MP will sort out the defence. Let's just get behind the team. 4 defeats from 4 wouldn't be ideal but it looks worse as a stat and not quite as bad when you consider the circumstances. We have not become a bad side in the space of one week and I sincerely hope the players know that (even though many of the usual suspects on here think otherwise). Any Saints side without Morgan is weaker than any side with him, he played against City last year so if he doesn't play on Saturday the side will be weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Wanyama on crutches, Clyne groin problem should both join the long term injury list. What's the diagnosis for Morgan? What's most worrying is that I noticed Shaw was struggling and only stayed on I think because we had no subs left. He kept stretching and wouldn't run with the ball. Unfortunately I can see this: Gazza Chambers fonte lovren fox Cork JWP Rodriguez davis Lallana Lambert Cropper Hooiveld Yoshida Reed Gaston (forced decision) Osvaldo Gallagher don't know why people keep putting JWP into DM, he can't tackle and his spacial awareness isn't great. That's why MPo doesn't put him there. Cork and Davis if the other 2 are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I dunno. How with our current injuries do we now compare to Norwich? Can our patched up defence do better, I mean least worse, than them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I dunno. How with our current injuries do we now compare to Norwich? Can our patched up defence do better, I mean least worse, than them? How much of a patched up defence is it likely to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 we beat them last season with no wanyama and with fox and jos playing. saying that, they look excellent now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 we beat them last season with no wanyama and with fox and jos playing. saying that, they look excellent now They do, we played well against them last year, but they were low on confidence and gifted us goals, can't see that happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 With a fit and non showboating boruc we could well get a result from this as we've beaten them before, but with the injuries and gazzaniga in goal we will get hammered unfortunately, can't see any other result unless the players out make a miraculous recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 This match is a certain defeat for us barring a miracle. It's very close to Christmas though? ...................Nah, we will get hammered as there are no gods, and I'm starting to think there is no Father Christmas either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 We'll certainly compete. City are starting to hit their stride but their away form is still shakey so if we can keep things tight we've got a chance. Shame that Kompany's back as well, but is he ready for two games in a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 We'll certainly compete. Actually, this is my minimum requirement for this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Actually, this is my minimum requirement for this match. Same, and we'll probably both be in luck - I count three halves of football this season where we haven't (Norwich away, second half of Chelsea away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 Considering Villa scored with each attempt yesterday, we'll get hammered..... Regretaby, you may be right with the form that they are in and coming off a convincing away win and with all our injuries and morale in decline I am very fearful of going up there on Saturday. Could it be a 7-0 drubbing? In normal circumstances 'No' but these are far from being normal circumstances. I wouldn't bet on less than 4 that's for sure. If it turns out that way we're up a gum tree for this campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I don't know why, but I just have a very funny feeling we'll have one of those big results on Saturday. Call it a premonition, I've seen it in the stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 I don't know why, but I just have a very funny feeling we'll have one of those big results on Saturday. Call it a premonition, I've seen it in the stars! what you mean 9-0 to City ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 what you mean 9-0 to City ? Other way round I don't know, I just think City can blow hot and cold, especially away from home. I still look at Demecheillis and wonder WTF he's on sometimes, looks an awful defender when turned against pace....so if we deploy Jay up alongside him, we can get some joy. I think we're going to have to score a few though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 December, 2013 Share Posted 5 December, 2013 jay rod is an odd one. fumbles the ball out of play one moment from an easy pass. then scores or tries a belter the next definitely our welbeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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