Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/11/27/everton-southampton-in-chase-to-sign-10m-championship-hot-shot-jordan-rhodes/? Could be replacement for Osvaldo who seems to want out already Osvaldo out..... Jordan in! Sounds good to me http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2013/11/newly-acquired-southampton-striker-reportedly-wants-out/?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 November, 2013 Author Posted 27 November, 2013 124 goals in his last 213 games!!! 27 goals last season and 10 already this season.
Turkish Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 (edited) I suggested him on the summer HCDAJFU thread the last 3 seasons. we had a couple of bids rejected for him when We were in the championship. Edited 27 November, 2013 by Turkish
The9 Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 Why would we think he was better than Billy Sharp, exactly?
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 124 goals in his last 213 games!!! 27 goals last season and 10 already this season. Yeah TBF he is one of those players thats made every step up and made them well. He is doing it consistantly again this year. Personally think 10m is too much, not sure why someone like palace spunked however much on gayle but didnt try him. That said I dont think he will fit our system, he is a goalscorer only IMO and it will still be a gamble that he will step up again.
Wrensup Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 I suggested him on the summer HCDAJFU thread the last 3 seasons. we had a couple of bids rejected for him when We were in the championship. Lambert Mk2 perhaps. Get him saints fit and all that and, boot it into the mixer then let Lallana and Jrod to feed of the scraps.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 November, 2013 Author Posted 27 November, 2013 Yeah TBF he is one of those players thats made every step up and made them well. He is doing it consistantly again this year. Personally think 10m is too much, not sure why someone like palace spunked however much on gayle but didnt try him. That said I dont think he will fit our system, he is a goalscorer only IMO and it will still be a gamble that he will step up again. Think BR paid £8m for him so £10m would seem resonable after his goal return? £10 million doesnt get you much these days and JR is only 23
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 November, 2013 Author Posted 27 November, 2013 Always thought he was small.... However he is 6'1
Wrensup Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 Exactly. Maybe we could look in the championship for new Stuart Ripley and Tony Dayley for the pacy wideman too. Got to be better than spunking all these millions on these foreigners who can't cut it here. Bloody Jono foreigners. Seriously though he does score a variety of types of goals, no reason he couldn't do a Lambert for us.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 Was that the game against Nottingham Forest when he was amazing? Scored 2 set up one and got man of the match. Looked quick and strong, great first touch and movement and a real eye for goal. If so I remember it, I watch a lot of youth football and he really stood out. Roy Keane could have done with your expertise me thinks.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 Do we really need ANOTHER new thread?
RedWillie Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 Nowhere has Osvaldo says he wants out. Show me the proof and I will take it back.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 Think BR paid £8m for him so £10m would seem resonable after his goal return? £10 million doesnt get you much these days and JR is only 23 Well true enough, I suppose we paid similar for J Rod, english players are so overpriced. We paid almost half for Lovren
SNSUN Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 People have long been tipping Jordan Rhodes for the Premier League but the question is whether or not he'll make it. There's only one way of finding out I suppose, but will it be as a replacement for Osvaldo? I highly doubt it.
studentsaint Posted 27 November, 2013 Posted 27 November, 2013 Think a good but of business would be to get Shane long into the squad. Runs for fun so would fit straight into our way of playing, a good all round player and contract runs out in the summer and is apparently keen on a move in January. Wba accepted a 5m bid from hull in the summer so ireckon 3.5 would do it. Think he could be a versatile forward player too.
the saint in winchester Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Think a good but of business would be to get Shane long into the squad. Runs for fun so would fit straight into our way of playing, a good all round player and contract runs out in the summer and is apparently keen on a move in January. Wba accepted a 5m bid from hull in the summer so ireckon 3.5 would do it. Think he could be a versatile forward player too. He was surplus then. He isn't that now, he's a hot in form striker. They won't sell, even for £10M.
Griffo Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 One I was thinking about was Shane Long. He looked quality against Villa on Monday night and works exceptionally hard so would fit in with our pressing..
Olallana Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Jordan Rhodes is of course Blackburns most prolific striker ever. That Alan Shea....whatever his name was got nothing on this guy...
hans gruber Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Bloody Jono foreigners. Seriously though he does score a variety of types of goals, no reason he couldn't do a Lambert for us. There can be only one ...........
CB Fry Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Invisimod? Looks like it. Utterly anodyne Dubai Phil parodies will be stamped out without remorse.
dubai_phil Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Lambert Mk2 perhaps. Get him saints fit and all that and, boot it into the mixer then let Lallana and Jrod to feed of the scraps. We have one of those already. Sam Gallagher
RobM Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 While I think its admirable that were famed for giving young players a chance, we have enough of our own to do that with. If we're going to strengthen our attacking options, I'd much rather we went for proven quality and experience. If we really want to fight for top-6 finishes each year, buying Championship strikers with no Premiership experience isn't the right option, IMO.
buctootim Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 (edited) If we're going to strengthen our attacking options, I'd much rather we went for proven quality and experience. If we really want to fight for top-6 finishes each year, buying Championship strikers with no Premiership experience isn't the right option, IMO. Who is better and gettable? Edited 28 November, 2013 by buctootim
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Well true enough, I suppose we paid similar for J Rod, english players are so overpriced. We paid almost half for Lovren JRod was around £6m & Lovren £8m - that's some interesting maths going on there.
CB Fry Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Who is better and gettable? Quite. "Proven Premier league striker with experience" sounds like buying someone like Berbatov or Darren Bent. And if he means someone younger then who is there that is going to come to us?
Bearsy Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 I think it would be too confuse to have a JRod and also a JRhod, so for that reason I'm out.
Spudders Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Invisimod? There's no place for humour on the main board!!
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 I like him, and do think he is a good player. Though I would worry for him. Seems the knives are already out for Osvaldo - an international forward with pretty good experience. What chance would this guy get if we were to spend £10m on him and he didn't score 10 in his first 3 games? Also, is he Rickie-esque as people are suggesting? I thought he was more of a box striker, poacher type? Kind of a massive upgrade on Sharp, nothing against BS I just think Rhodes is much better.
Ed Rooney Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Yes, Scottish International in for Italian international
Leicestersaint Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Osvaldo is simply not working out - 1 goal from 10 games is poor and he looks too slow. He's not happy and neither are we.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Osvaldo is simply not working out - 1 goal from 10 games is poor and he looks too slow. He's not happy and neither are we. Really?
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 JRod was around £6m & Lovren £8m - that's some interesting maths going on there. Not my finest hour...... Plus some were comparing Rhodes to Lambert ? I assume only because of his progress through divisions as he is nothing like the same player.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Not my finest hour...... Plus some were comparing Rhodes to Lambert ? I assume only because of his progress through divisions as he is nothing like the same player. Haha fair enough, I wondered if I'd missed your point. I agree though, don't really see Rhodes as a Lambert type player. As I said above, I always thought of him more as a poacher type. Think he is a very good player, and could potentially do it in the Prem, just not sure he is right for our system or style of play.
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Haha fair enough, I wondered if I'd missed your point. I agree though, don't really see Rhodes as a Lambert type player. As I said above, I always thought of him more as a poacher type. Think he is a very good player, and could potentially do it in the Prem, just not sure he is right for our system or style of play. Exactly
verlaine1979 Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Looking at one of his Blackburn compilation videos, probably half of his goals come from him picking up the ball outside or on the edge of the box. He's also two-footed by the looks of things. No idea if he's actually good enough to cut it, but I don't think he's just a poacher on that evidence.
RobM Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Quite. "Proven Premier league striker with experience" sounds like buying someone like Berbatov or Darren Bent. And if he means someone younger then who is there that is going to come to us? That "quote" isn't from me, you've invented that to make a point. I never suggested anything like the players you mention to further add to your point. Put it this way - why aren't Liverpool, Arsenal, the Manc's, Chelsea, Spurs etc in for him? I know we're not in the same class as them, but there is a reason they aren't going for players like Rhodes. If we're serious about Champions League football, top-6 finishes etc we need to show that in the transfer market. This, IMO, means looking for the same type of player as these clubs. We were in for Coutinho and Banega last season and managed to sign Osvaldo, this season we're performing much better and should finish higher in the league, so have a better chance of signing players of this calibre. The proven experience I refer to could well be in another of the worlds top leagues, ideally with European experience to support our push for European football, rather than second-tier football. As for who... that's for the scouting team to answer. Not many of us predicted Lovren yet he's been the player of the season so far (IMO) and comes with experience of football at a higher level than the Championship, which shows our scouting team know what they're doing.
CB Fry Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 That "quote" isn't from me, you've invented that to make a point. I never suggested anything like the players you mention to further add to your point. Put it this way - why aren't Liverpool, Arsenal, the Manc's, Chelsea, Spurs etc in for him? I know we're not in the same class as them, but there is a reason they aren't going for players like Rhodes. If we're serious about Champions League football, top-6 finishes etc we need to show that in the transfer market. This, IMO, means looking for the same type of player as these clubs. We were in for Coutinho and Banega last season and managed to sign Osvaldo, this season we're performing much better and should finish higher in the league, so have a better chance of signing players of this calibre. The proven experience I refer to could well be in another of the worlds top leagues, ideally with European experience to support our push for European football, rather than second-tier football. As for who... that's for the scouting team to answer. Not many of us predicted Lovren yet he's been the player of the season so far (IMO) and comes with experience of football at a higher level than the Championship, which shows our scouting team know what they're doing. Calm down, precious. I didn't quote you did I? This is me quoting you, now.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 Osvaldo is genuine international quality...Rhodes, not so much. I would suggest that we are better than players of his calibre now, he seems a bit of a 'Jermaine Beckford at Everton'.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 November, 2013 Posted 28 November, 2013 I think it would be too confuse to have a JRod and also a JRhod, so for that reason I'm out. Think of the goals thou bear, 15 in a week plus whatever we dont need roads gets
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2013 Author Posted 29 November, 2013 (edited) Osvaldo is genuine international quality...Rhodes, not so much. I would suggest that we are better than players of his calibre now, he seems a bit of a 'Jermaine Beckford at Everton'. A classic SWF post. Lower league players are not good enough for Southampton. We should gamble on foreign signings that nobody has seen. Worked for Ramirez, Osvaldo so a proven formula Edited 29 November, 2013 by Glasgow_Saint
Olallana Posted 29 November, 2013 Posted 29 November, 2013 A classic SWF post. Lower league players are not good enough for Southampton. We should gamble on foreign signings that nobody has seen. Worked for Ramirez, Osvaldo so a proven formula :facepalm : Yeah, cause the most important thing is that some idiotic fans has seen the players before.... If you haven´t seen Ramirez or Osvaldo pre-Saints it says more about your footballing interest and knowledge than anything else....
Rasiak-9- Posted 29 November, 2013 Posted 29 November, 2013 Osvaldo is genuine international quality...Rhodes, not so much. I would suggest that we are better than players of his calibre now, he seems a bit of a 'Jermaine Beckford at Everton'. Perfect analogy. Rhodes for 10million would be a hideous waste of money.
Turkish Posted 29 November, 2013 Posted 29 November, 2013 That "quote" isn't from me, you've invented that to make a point. I never suggested anything like the players you mention to further add to your point. Put it this way - why aren't Liverpool, Arsenal, the Manc's, Chelsea, Spurs etc in for him? I know we're not in the same class as them, but there is a reason they aren't going for players like Rhodes. If we're serious about Champions League football, top-6 finishes etc we need to show that in the transfer market. This, IMO, means looking for the same type of player as these clubs. We were in for Coutinho and Banega last season and managed to sign Osvaldo, this season we're performing much better and should finish higher in the league, so have a better chance of signing players of this calibre. The proven experience I refer to could well be in another of the worlds top leagues, ideally with European experience to support our push for European football, rather than second-tier football. As for who... that's for the scouting team to answer. Not many of us predicted Lovren yet he's been the player of the season so far (IMO) and comes with experience of football at a higher level than the Championship, which shows our scouting team know what they're doing. "Put it this way - why aren't Liverpool, Arsenal, the Manc's, Chelsea, Spurs etc in for him?" They are http://sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/manchester-united-to-bid-5m-for-scotland-under-21-striker-after-scholes-recommendation-12011/ Now people can claim if we sign him he picked us over Man United, like they did with Clyne.
Prince Jazzbo Posted 29 November, 2013 Posted 29 November, 2013 "Put it this way - why aren't Liverpool, Arsenal, the Manc's, Chelsea, Spurs etc in for him?" They are http://sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/manchester-united-to-bid-5m-for-scotland-under-21-striker-after-scholes-recommendation-12011/ Now people can claim if we sign him he picked us over Man United, like they did with Clyne. Two years ago, so it probably should be 'they were'. Although they might still have an eye on him.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 29 November, 2013 Posted 29 November, 2013 A classic SWF post. Lower league players are not good enough for Southampton. We should gamble on foreign signings that nobody has seen. Worked for Ramirez, Osvaldo so a proven formula I would suggest that you invest some time in watching some European football that isn't the Champions League. Osvaldo was one of Roma's starting eleven and is an Italian international, to say that Rhodes is better and to slate Osvaldo after such a short space of time indicates someone whos football knowledge ends when the MOTD credits roll.
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