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Niemi for Boruc

Anders for JWP

 

Past that i'm not sure. Would love MLT but it'd require a change of formation to accommodate for him, Theo showed flashes of his talent before he left us so not sure he's a fair pick, Shearer again the same as Theo. In HIS prime I'd take him all day long but for his time with us maybe not.

 

Shearer left us for a british record transfer fee for a reason and made 188 appearances for us so he wasn't some flash in the pan talent that suddenly got snapped up. I'd have him and people forget his workrate whilst with us that dropped significantly after his injuries at other clubs. You can make a case about KK and Davies - unfortunately never saw them play that much though.

 

MLT played most of his career in teams full of relatively average, workmanlike players and he carried them. He'd relish playing in this team. He proved time and time again that he was the difference for mostly mediocre teams so imagine what he'd be like in one that was a bit good?

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Shearer left us for a british record transfer fee for a reason and made 188 appearances for us so he wasn't some flash in the pan talent that suddenly got snapped up. I'd have him and people forget his workrate whilst with us that dropped significantly after his injuries at other clubs. You can make a case about KK and Davies - unfortunately never saw them play that much though.

 

MLT played most of his career in teams full of relatively average, workmanlike players and he carried them. He'd relish playing in this team. He proved time and time again that he was the difference for mostly mediocre teams so imagine what he'd be like in one that was a bit good?

 

Shearer was on a learning curve with Saints and wasn't prolific - he scored less than thirty goals in his time with us. So definitely not at his peak as a Saints player.

 

Wouldn't make my team.

 

I tend to agree with Window Cleaner that the current Saints team are easily the greatest players ever to play for Saints of all time. I mean, in the old days they never had blade boots or pasta or warm downs so obviously crap players. After all, how many Kenyans and French kids were in Lawrie's team of losers? Well then.

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Taking our current first eleven as

 

Boruc

Clyne Fonte Lovren Shaw

Wanyama Schneiderlin

JRod Lallana JWP

Lambert

 

which three past players, in their saints prime (especially relevant for the likes of Bale or Shearer, who hit their prime at other clubs), would you swap into that team to improve us most?

 

It doesn't really work to just name your three favourite players, would MLT really manage our high pressing game? Would Killer complement Lovren best, or be too similar? You may love big Ivan, but is Clyne the best player to replace? Jimmy Case was great, but was he really so much better than Schneiderlin or Wanyama?

 

Keegan would be a good bet, with good fitness, control and team play, we could also get either a clinical finisher like Davies or a fast, skillful player like Pahars.

 

So what's your eleven with your choice of any three saints greats added to our current team?

 

 

Great op.

 

Shilton

Wright instead of fonte

Keegan in there.

 

However, that is only on that team, if jrod or jwp weren't playing I would have different players in there, a la Armstrong, or Wallace, but they are the three I would choose to change that team. Good to get the old grey cells out instead of just reading the same old drivel.

 

Love to put in Davies, too young afraid, feels wrong to leave out le tissier and case. What is wrong with the world?

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Only going with players i've seen play for us in the flesh, I would have Niemi in for Boruc, Dean Richards in for Fonte and Pahars in for JWP.

 

---------------NIEMI----------------

CLYNE---DEANO---LOVREN---SHAW

---------VICTOR---MORGAN---------

--------ADZ---RICKIE---JROD-------

--------------MARIAN---------------

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Shearer left us for a british record transfer fee for a reason and made 188 appearances for us so he wasn't some flash in the pan talent that suddenly got snapped up. I'd have him and people forget his workrate whilst with us that dropped significantly after his injuries at other clubs. You can make a case about KK and Davies - unfortunately never saw them play that much though.

 

MLT played most of his career in teams full of relatively average, workmanlike players and he carried them. He'd relish playing in this team. He proved time and time again that he was the difference for mostly mediocre teams so imagine what he'd be like in one that was a bit good?

 

I clearly did not call him a flash in the pan. He had not reached his prolific potential in his time with us. He showed potential and, after leaving, went on to realise this potential.

 

MLT could be class when surrounded by even better players but, as all the tactical analysis suggests, our high press only works when everyone presses. No doubt Le Tiss would be a fantastic addition to ANY side if he could fit into our set-up without changes to accommodate him is debatable.

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I clearly did not call him a flash in the pan. He had not reached his prolific potential in his time with us. He showed potential and, after leaving, went on to realise this potential.

 

MLT could be class when surrounded by even better players but, as all the tactical analysis suggests, our high press only works when everyone presses. No doubt Le Tiss would be a fantastic addition to ANY side if he could fit into our set-up without changes to accommodate him is debatable.

 

Think people forget Le Tiss did use to do quite a bit of running in his early years, it's largely been exaggerated by everyone (and himself) since he's stopped playing!

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Couldn't be bothered to read all of the op. Just Pahars, Beattie and Le Tiss then please

 

Go ahead and treat yourself, have five. The only reason I put 3 in the op was because otherwise we've just got another "all time best saints eleven" thread, and that's been done to death. I genuinely don't really care how many people choose, why would anyone?

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I only put 2 players because I'd only take 2 of our ex's to play in today's side. Only 2 with the technical ability and fitness levels to be able to play today's game. People make me laugh with their Jimmy Case obsession, he'd be red carded after 2 minutes, he had no technical ability just a lot of aggression.

I don't really get your logic here. You say it's a bad idea to put jimmy case in the side, but at the same time, you'd put in the Gareth Bale who played for saints at left back for a season back in the championship in 2007, who a year later was struggling to hold down a starting place in the prem and for saints was often second choice to Chris Makin, and this in place of our current left back, who is proven at prem level already? That is madness. Gareth Bale in his saints prime in 2007 was clearly not a patch on Luke Shaw today.

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Some of my all time favourite players, who I had the pleasure of watching, are: Ivan Golac; Mark Dennis; Mark Wright; Steve Williams; David Armstrong; MLT; Mick Channon, Steve Moran, Kevin Keegan, Rod Wallace - to name but a few. In keeping with the OP and choosing 3, I think I should decided which of our current 3 are, IMO, our weakest links; thus identifying which positions to strengthen.

 

Fonte is definitely one, then it is 2 from Big Vic, JWP and JRod (IMO). As much as I would love to replace Wanyama with Steve Williams, I think it would be more effective to bring in: Mark Wright for Fonte (I honestly believe a Wright/Lovren partnership would be amazing); MLT for JWP; and, KK for JRod.

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This really is a fantastic thread - well done to the original poster. In fact, I would go as far as saying this is probably one of the best threads I've seen on SWF - it's what football forums should be all about.

 

That said, to be honest, I keep forgetting the rules. Every time I read the rules as originally set out, by the time I come to reply, I seem to have forgotten them. When you're as old as me, I'm afraid the memory starts to fail.

 

When I was a lad, our heroes were the likes of Tom Parker (who could give that whippersnapper Shaw a run for his money), George Kay (who got in the England squad and would show Lallana a thing or two), and Ted Drake (who we lost to Woolwich Arsenal, but had his best times with us and would have competed well for a place against Lambert).

 

As I say, though, I keep forgetting the rules so have probably got this all wrong.

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Peter Shilton

Mark Wright

Mick Channon

 

Yep, those would be my 3, maybe Keegan instead of Channon but not much in it. Wright and Lovren - what a combination that would be! With Shilts in goal in his prime, good luck trying to score past us. Hope Shaw becomes as an exciting a left back as Dennis was, with a better disciplinary record obviously....

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Yep, those would be my 3, maybe Keegan instead of Channon but not much in it. Wright and Lovren - what a combination that would be! With Shilts in goal in his prime, good luck trying to score past us. Hope Shaw becomes as an exciting a left back as Dennis was, with a better disciplinary record obviously....

 

In fairness, Mark Dennis' disciplinary record improved considerably after he joined us. He'd always seemed like a sending-off waiting to happen (I remember seeing him and Bally sent off together when we played at Birmingham one season and Dennis was in the Brum team). With us, though, he was just a booking waiting to happen. :D

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So many difficult choices, and so many I'd love to put in. I'd change Niemi with Boruc. Toss up between Wright & Svensson.

Those are the easier ones for me, now it gets difficult, Channon, Big Ron, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Keegan, Paine just to name a few you can make an argument for.

The most outstanding missing Le-God. I'd love to get him & Williams in, Williams would be an improvement on big Vic at the moment although I think Wanyama can get better. As for Le-Tiss, the way we play today would he really fit into this current team & work ethic? Probably not because I just don't see him working hard enough for the pressing game we now play. So going mainly off our pressing game today I'd go for a toss up between Channon or Keegan for JRod, I'll just go for Keegan because in his prime he worked so hard off the ball as well as on it it. so my team would be :-

Niemi

Clyne Svensson Lovren Shaw

Wanyama Schneiderlin

JWP Keegan Lallana

Lambert

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Alan Ball would be a shoe in for this team, so much energy,always wanted the ball, great passer - definitely a Pochitino player probably for JWP.

Channon is the player J Rod aspires to be.

and on the basis that our defence is doing better than our attack at present Ron Davies for Rickie to give us more goals.

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Alan Ball would be a shoe in for this team, so much energy,always wanted the ball, great passer - definitely a Pochitino player probably for JWP.

Channon is the player J Rod aspires to be.

and on the basis that our defence is doing better than our attack at present Ron Davies for Rickie to give us more goals.

 

Some good contributions all round but if only allowed three - Shilton and Wright would make our defence a lot tighter and Le Tiss would be a shoe-in for the centre of the three behind Lambert.

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Ostlund for Clyne

Hurlock for Big Vic

Barry Venison for anyone else in our current line-up.

 

Serious you mean....O.K. The 2 Pauls, Williams and Telfer. Oh alright...

 

Niemi for Boruc. Not that Boruc is bad, just Niemi is THE best keeper we've ever had in my opinion

Pahars for JRod. Again, no disrespect to Jay, but Pahars would tear open most teams we've played this year

Has to be Le Tiss for JWP. Bally got it spot on, you build the team around him and he will do wonders for you. The best player the Premiership has ever seen I reckon.

 

Would also think about, and only think mind, about swapping our current left side for Bridgey and CMFG.

My goodness, this does just highlight how good our current first 11 really are.

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Based solely on players I've seen play, there are still so many great players I'd like to see in that team but at the end of the day the point is to improve the team. The best goalie we ever had was Shilton, so he's a shoe-in for Boruc. Although I could pick players to improve the defence, I'd probably leave it as it is so that I could bring replacements in for JWP & rodriguez, as although I think he's going to be a great player, he's not there yet and still a little lightweight. I'd love to put MLT in, but I don't think he'd fit in our style so it's either KK or steve williams to replace him. I feel the one thing our team is really missing is a goal poacher who can also go with our style. for that reason I'm going for Steve Moran. If he hadn't suffered that back injury (southsea night club?) I felt he would have gone on to be an England regular.

Shilton Keegan Moran. would have loved it to be Williams but Keegan was the more consistent and harder working.

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Jimmy Case for Wanyama.

Mark Wright for Fonte.

Danny Wallace for whatever formation is being played, in short over Lallana, Rodriguez or Ward-Prowse.

 

Le Tissier obviously would walk into this team on talent but who could he replace, there are better players in every position in the last 30 years than this current side.

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Shearer left us for a british record transfer fee for a reason and made 188 appearances for us so he wasn't some flash in the pan talent that suddenly got snapped up. I'd have him and people forget his workrate whilst with us that dropped significantly after his injuries at other clubs. You can make a case about KK and Davies - unfortunately never saw them play that much though.

 

MLT played most of his career in teams full of relatively average, workmanlike players and he carried them. He'd relish playing in this team. He proved time and time again that he was the difference for mostly mediocre teams so imagine what he'd be like in one that was a bit good?

188?

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---------------------- Boruc ----------------------

Clyne ------- Fonte ------- Lovren ------- Shaw

--------- Wanyama ------- Schneiderlin --------

R.Ekelund --------- Le Tissier --------- Lallana

-------------------- Rod Wallace --------------------

 

In our currant team in a high pressing game we lack pace upfront so R.Wallace would work wonders for counter attacks and on the deck passing. Mlt could always go upfront if needed and move Wallace on the wing and move Lallana behind the forward. If we had Ronnie now he would replace Jrod in a flash, probably the best player ive seen such a pity he got injured. If we had a choice of another player i would choose either Wright or killer for Fonte.

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