ericofarabia Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 FFS .... bang goes our Dubai Saints get togethers every week, and presumably all you guys who have subscribed to Al Jizz back home. We had wondered why our game was the only one shown down the pub on Saturday. so much for the promise of Every EPL Game Live to attract punters and get pubs etc to stump up for thr rights to show games etc. http://gulfnews.com/sport/football/premier-league-broadcasts-in-uae-hit-by-uk-clampdown-1.1259952 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 I seriously hate Sky Sports and how they are ruining football All we want to do is watch our team, if we are unable to go because listening on the radio is boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 Looks like this will be an insolvable problem. Typical Brit "everyone does things the way we do mentality" as EVERY other part of the world has multiple choice of Set top Boxes and Satellites to tune into so we have multiple smart card slots. There is NO WAY Al Jiz will agree to supply secure boxes (like Sky) and without that there is no way to secure the Smart Cards The Killer is that the ACTUAL rights holders aren't even Al Jiz, it is some very obscure ME based company. Al Jiz simply won a tender from THEM to show the games. I foresee a long and complex Law Suit. I foresee ALL the people who have paid legitimate subscriptions getting screwed and a lot of Pubs getting raided in the UK. When the simple answer is to just show every bloody game live on subscription direct to PLTV from anywhere in the world & let the Global Service Providers stick to re-broadcasting on Satellite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 Pretty sure I warned at the time that paying subscription for this service in England would bite people in the arse. I'm sorry its ruined your dubai get togethers though... can you at least get the dodgy streams out there or is this going to severely ruin your saints watching abilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 I'm sorry its ruined your dubai get togethers though... I find that element of it quite funny, I'm bastard like that! Good work sainsweb illegal downloaders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 (edited) I find that element of it quite funny, I'm bastard like that! Good work sainsweb illegal downloaders! don't think it's about downloading really Bearsy, it's about illegal circuiting of regional rights. In theory Sky isn't available in France but I know a few people who have UK Sky subscriptions and just get the cards sent from home. I suppose in this case you just get a local to subscribe to Al Jaz and send the equipment back to the UK to show matches in pubs and stuff at a far lesser cost. BeIn sport costs 11 euros a month in France, don't think they show many PL matches though, that's Canal + which costs about 30 euros. C+ show about 6 games most weekends but I don't know how the cost compares to Sky. Edited 26 November, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatSaint Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 You can't blame anyone for wanting to watch their team, and their desire to do so. If there is anyone to blame it's SkySports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 You can't blame anyone for wanting to watch their team, and their desire to do so. If there is anyone to blame it's SkySports. I don't blame sky for that really, they would broadcast every game live on PPV if the premier league let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 don't know how the cost compares to Sky. Think i was paying like £70 a month at one point before i had tantrum + binned it off. I would pay double tho if it meant i could watch every saints game on proper TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatSaint Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 I don't blame sky for that really, they would broadcast every game live on PPV if the premier league let them. Ah, sorry, I meant whoever decides how many matches they are allowed to broadcast! So the Premier League then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 Cant watch every game, but has anyone tried the skybox? Gives you every sky channel & BT sport ect for one off fee. http://www.amazon.co.uk/SkyBox-F5-18-Months-Gift/dp/B00CHBIFZW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 I seriously hate Sky Sports and how they are ruining football All we want to do is watch our team, if we are unable to go because listening on the radio is boring.I take you have never tried to run a business? They need to recoup their outlay somehow, so they are hardly going to sit around idly while people watched pirated material for free. Your only hope is that the BBC buy all the rights for live EPL football - and I can't see them forking out for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 The daily mail article has a slightly different take on things and says that they will be clamping down on the boxes. The don't say anything about the online streaming so I will expect that to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 Cant watch every game, but has anyone tried the skybox? Gives you every sky channel & BT sport ect for one off fee. http://www.amazon.co.uk/SkyBox-F5-18-Months-Gift/dp/B00CHBIFZW Ive been reading up on it, looks like it could be a bit of hard work dealing in all these ccmmds/clines etc, very interesting read. The daily mail article has a slightly different take on things and says that they will be clamping down on the boxes. The don't say anything about the online streaming so I will expect that to continue. Like the one above? Im not sure how they can stop the selling of a piece of electronics in the EU, im also not sure if they have the right to go around hunting users/hardware owners down (especially if you display the old - I revoke any or all implied right of access to this property - get out clause on your door, which I am led to understand stops any possible access for a TV license inspector outright?) All very interesting. I would love to be able to be able to watch Saints games on TV, it wouldnt stop me going to games, I will only do a small number of aways with or without Saints on the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 Think i was paying like £70 a month at one point before i had tantrum + binned it off. I would pay double tho if it meant i could watch every saints game on proper TV. For £140pm you could actually go to every game (certain assumptions accepted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 For £140pm you could actually go to every game (certain assumptions accepted) Sort of, 140*12=£1680 New ST 550(?), 19 away games x £30=£570 Tickets approx 550+570=£1220 Leaves £460/38 for travel = £12/game home and away Nothing there for beer or food. You can't quite do it for 140/month but it's not a million miles away, you could comfortably do the 19 home games, and chuck in a few aways as well (subject to you being within a reasonable radius of SMS), but subject to you giving up the opportunity cost of your TV subscription on the other 6 and a half days a week. Probably best stick to free streams, chuck in plenty of beer and pizza, watch a few down the pub and then pick your live games and a couple of decent aways, and still have change out of 1680 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 For £140pm you could actually go to every game (certain assumptions accepted) I don't mind paying for the games honest! I don't mind paying for travel or burgers or comedy hat or whatever. It's mostly that I live in Birmingham and a 5 hour round trip seems inconvenient when i can just as easily sit on sofa in my underpants eating beans and watch stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 I don't mind paying for the games honest! I don't mind paying for travel or burgers or comedy hat or whatever. It's mostly that I live in Birmingham and a 5 hour round trip seems inconvenient when i can just as easily sit on sofa in my underpants eating beans and watch stream. I can not imagine the stream would be clean in Birmingham with your underpants in them and the pollution from the City.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 Ur thinking of canal, which is actually French channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 I seriously hate Sky Sports and how they are ruining football All we want to do is watch our team, if we are unable to go because listening on the radio is boring. Well before Sky Sports came along, if you couldn't make the match in person, the radio, or Ceefax was the only way to know what was going on. Sky have invested a LOT of money in to football and whilst it is tiresome, some of the things that have happened, they can't be blamed for trying to protect their investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 Well before Sky Sports came along, if you couldn't make the match in person, the radio, or Ceefax was the only way to know what was going on. Sky have invested a LOT of money in to football and whilst it is tiresome, some of the things that have happened, they can't be blamed for trying to protect their investment. True that pal. Our mate here says he hates sky and finds the radio boring but before sky the radio and ceefax, MOTD highlights and the odd game live on a Sunday was all you got. Hates sky but finds the options before it boring, no pleasing some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 True that pal. Our mate here says he hates sky and finds the radio boring but before sky the radio and ceefax, MOTD highlights and the odd game live on a Sunday was all you got. Hates sky but finds the options before it boring, no pleasing some people. Bring back The Match with Elton Welsby and one live game on Sunday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 True that pal. Our mate here says he hates sky and finds the radio boring but before sky the radio and ceefax, MOTD highlights and the odd game live on a Sunday was all you got. Hates sky but finds the options before it boring, no pleasing some people. For nostalgia ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY0LQCfrjFA and (Golac features in this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 1500 o'clock kick offs, one live terrestrial game a week, safe standing, more English players in your clubs team and a better national side, I could quite happily live with that, in fact **** this **** off and let's get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 26 November, 2013 Share Posted 26 November, 2013 especially if you display the old - I revoke any or all implied right of access to this property - get out clause on your door, which I am led to understand stops any possible access for a TV license inspector outright? Off topic slightly... but this is absolute ******** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikie Posted 27 November, 2013 Share Posted 27 November, 2013 I find that element of it quite funny, I'm bastard like that! Good work sainsweb illegal downloaders! Cheers Tos**r! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_punt Posted 30 November, 2013 Share Posted 30 November, 2013 Bloody third world countries. You should move to the good old US of A (not that we would have very many of you of course) where I get to watch every single Saints game live on my telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 30 November, 2013 Share Posted 30 November, 2013 I cannot really see how regional tv deals is going to work long term, I suspect we are heading more towards global deals to distribute online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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