Deano6 Posted 19 November, 2013 Share Posted 19 November, 2013 Joseph Barton @Joey7Barton 24m My starting 11 for WC would be, Hart. Walker. Jones. Cahill. Shaw. Wilshere. Ward-Prowse. Townsend. Welbeck. Rooney. Sturridge. #future [sotoner = Soton boner, obvo!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 19 November, 2013 Share Posted 19 November, 2013 If the future is Wellbeck and Sturridge, then we are stuffed. Nice to see the recognition for JWP and Shaw though. Barton is still a complete d1ck though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 November, 2013 Share Posted 19 November, 2013 If the future is Wellbeck and Sturridge, then we are stuffed. Nice to see the recognition for JWP and Shaw though. Barton is still a complete d1ck though Welbecks a good player and I dont get how Sturridge is suddenly **** after a single (injured ?) england performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 November, 2013 Share Posted 19 November, 2013 He's a cock no llallana in his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 No holding midfielder there either, but in all honesty I haven't heard of a single decent English defensive mid coming through. That's a bit of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 Welbecks a good player and I dont get how Sturridge is suddenly **** after a single (injured ?) england performance Welbeck's cack, looks like a shuffler, cannot control a ball and never seems to have a clue what he's doing. One nice finish against Swansea to his career. Sturridge is awesome, except when he's cack (which has been about 2 matches this season). I still think the latter is much more likely to be successful as a footballer though, you have to be able to control a ball to do anything with it. I'd have Lallana in Barton's team ahead of Welbeck or Townsend every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 No holding midfielder there either, but in all honesty I haven't heard of a single decent English defensive mid coming through. That's a bit of a problem. It is certainly an issue for my "never going to happen" policy of picking every available Saints player and plugging in 2 CBs, plus the good England players (i.e. Hart, Wilshere, Sturridge and Rooney) somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 He's a cock no llallana in his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 No holding midfielder there either, but in all honesty I haven't heard of a single decent English defensive mid coming through. That's a bit of a problem. Has the 'Cork' popped then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 Welbecks a good player and I dont get how Sturridge is suddenly **** after a single (injured ?) england performance I've never seen Wellbeck do anything in an England shirt to suggest he could be a world class player. Poor first touch for starters. He reminds me of George Lawrence or Paolo Wanchope, or Bambi. Sturridge might score goals for Liverpool but again I've not been impressed with him for England. I didn't see the point of bringing Lambert on last night as much as I want to see him play for England. There was no service to the front men. England never looked like scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 What's a Sotoner? Sotonian? Stoner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 No Clyne worries me more than no Lallana (though he is good enough to be in the team). Right back is a real problem for England as are the centre backs. Shaw would do a good job at left back but realisitically you can't flood the team with Saints so maybe Gibbs is a better choice for this tournament. Prowse is a must in my view and Hodgson obviously likes Rickie so he could well make the squad. Jay will probabably have to wait a bit given the competition for places but he will get there eventually I'm sure. A lot depends on form for the rest of this season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 I've never seen Wellbeck do anything in an England shirt to suggest he could be a world class player. Poor first touch for starters. He reminds me of George Lawrence or Paolo Wanchope, or Bambi. Sturridge might score goals for Liverpool but again I've not been impressed with him for England. I didn't see the point of bringing Lambert on last night as much as I want to see him play for England. There was no service to the front men. England never looked like scoring He didn't say world class, he said good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 Has the 'Cork' popped then? Not really, can't even get in his club XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 I actually quite like Barton despite him not being a very likeable character. Comes from a troubled family. His brother and cousin are both currently banged up for the same racially motivated murder. They killed a lad in Huyton with an ice axe. It's probably for the best that Barton has lots of money and Twitter to keep him out of real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 No way would i iclude Wilshere. The amount of times he looses possession is shocking. I have noticed this over the last five or 6 England matches. He is totally overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 Not really, can't even get in his club XI. Since when has that stopped players being selected for England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 Since when has that stopped players being selected for England? Only works if the player is at a 'traditional' top club though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 20 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 November, 2013 What's a Sotoner? Sotonian? Stoner? Did you even read the OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 Too soon for JWP and Shaw and don't feel Rodriguez or Clyne will come into the thinking until post Brazil however the future looks very bright and nice to see people taking notice of our players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 November, 2013 Share Posted 20 November, 2013 No way would i iclude Wilshere. The amount of times he looses possession is shocking. I have noticed this over the last five or 6 England matches. He is totally overrated. Most of the players give the ball away, unfortunately this is indicative of the counter attacking brand of the prem more than anything and the lack of 'developing' a team for me. The germans, spanish etc have played together over generations (U19s, U21's) this creates an environment where the players gel and get used to each other. England squads are generally chucked together, and then there playing styles for clubs are often vastly different. Club football allows teams to 'train' tactics over many months getting players used to movement off the ball etc. if anything England looked as though they were trying to press more than usual last night, but we dont have the players to move the ball on quickly when we gain possession. All in all the transitional play between phases was crap last night. Especially final third. Soo, long story short on Wilshere, I think he is very good but tries too much in an England shirt. Id stick with him, I posted my proposal further up, the issue is getting them to play together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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