Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Foolish or generous? Southampton starlet Luke Shaw has been forced to remove a tweet posted to help raise money for Children in Need. The 18-year-old left-back sent out a message to his 111,000 followers saying that for every retweet he received he would donate 10p. Later in the evening Shaw posted again to confirm the final number of retweets - some 38,000 - and the final amount he would donate - over £3,800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 So why was he forced to remove it? Can't imagine £3,800 is much to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 17 November, 2013 So why was he forced to remove it? Can't imagine £3,800 is much to him. Rest.... But he has now been forced to remove both tweets having being subjected to numerous negative responses branding him "cheap" for "seeking attention." Norwich City midfielder Elliott Bennett soon took to the social media site to jump to the England Under-21 international's defence. "Why is it people love when footballers do wrong? But when they do good there seems to be another motive?! Just except it," he posted. Shaw's donation, along with thousands of others helped Children in Need raise a record-breaking final total in excess of £31m. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/luke-shaw-forced-remove-children-2799127? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Literally pathetic. What is wrong with that?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Literally pathetic. What is wrong with that?!?! Thought the same.... £3,800 is a sizeable amount. I guarantee that alot of mega rich players would have given nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 So nobody bats an eyelid when celebrities blatantly breach advertising laws but a kid does something for charity and gets hounded? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Good lad Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Rest.... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/luke-shaw-forced-remove-children-2799127? I don't get it. Who has "forced" him to remove those tweets and why is he now unable to give the money to Children in Need? So some people called him an attention seeker, why should that mean he removed tweets? Surely most tweets are some form of attention seeking? You want people to pay attention to what you're saying - sometimes there may be something worth saying and it's justified and at others you might just be "doing a Glasgow Saint". There's some questions there I'd be interested in hearing the answers to - namely, who has forced him to remove the tweets and if it was he himself who removed them, why did he feel he had to do that? Weird stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 17 November, 2013 I don't get it. Who has "forced" him to remove those tweets and why is he now unable to give the money to Children in Need? So some people called him an attention seeker, why should that mean he removed tweets? Surely most tweets are some form of attention seeking? You want people to pay attention to what you're saying - sometimes there may be something worth saying and it's justified and at others you might just be "doing a Glasgow Saint". There's some questions there I'd be interested in hearing the answers to - namely, who has forced him to remove the tweets and if it was he himself who removed them, why did he feel he had to do that? Weird stuff. Maybe you should tweet Luke and ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Fair play to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 I'm amazed any professional footballer has the patience to have an open twitter account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumush Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 I saw the tweet and one of the first replies to it was " only 10p you cheap c**t" ( without the **). I didny bother looking again but if he received more of those I dont blame him for pulling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Connor Wickham did a similar thing for Help the Heroes. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesdays-connor-wickham-donate-2719834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Did anyone else get in on this? I retweeted it 37,865 times. Least I could do, for the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 I don't get it. Who has "forced" him to remove those tweets and why is he now unable to give the money to Children in Need? Where does it say he won't be donating? Looks like he wasn't forced to remove it but removed it to stop the abusive tweets. I really don't get why people use twitter, it is just open to abuse and shows people up (not Luke) for being morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Had david beckham tweeted saying he would donate £1 would he have been abused? Fair play to young Luke for putting his hand into his wallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 It doesn't say he won't be donating. The only things wrong with this are 1) the nobbers on Twitter having a pop at him 2) Elliott Bennett not knowing the difference between "accept" and "except". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31GARRY Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 If he wanted to give money to charity he should have just picked up the phone and donated like everyone else. Yes we love him but he has done this to make himself look good. He did not have to tweet it he could have just donated silently like the rest of the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 If he wanted to give money to charity he should have just picked up the phone and donated like everyone else. Yes we love him but he has done this to make himself look good. He did not have to tweet it he could have just donated silently like the rest of the general public. Of course the logical conclusion to this is that no-one "does charity", ever, and everyone just donates silently to causes they feel are worthy out of the goodness of their heart. That would lead to most charitable causes ceasing to exist, because most people don't do that and need a bit of guilt or a reason to do so. Shaw putting himself in a position where his followers chose how much he'd have to donate is a reasonable way of doing that - anyone wanting him to have to pay more just had to retweet numerous times. There's nothing wrong with publicly being given credit for doing good things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31GARRY Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Ok I will tweet later that I gave 5 quid to a bloke at work for a charity run he did. But because I am not famous the press wont look at my tweet and I wont get the publicity I was looking for. If your going to do a good deed there is no need to tell the world about it. But also it is good to remember he is only young and could be doing far worse than advertising a charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Of course the logical conclusion to this is that no-one "does charity", ever, and everyone just donates silently to causes they feel are worthy out of the goodness of their heart. That would lead to most charitable causes ceasing to exist, because most people don't do that and need a bit of guilt or a reason to do so. Shaw putting himself in a position where his followers chose how much he'd have to donate is a reasonable way of doing that - anyone wanting him to have to pay more just had to retweet numerous times. There's nothing wrong with publicly being given credit for doing good things. He also might have prompted others into donating themselves. I've got no problem at all with what Shaw did; I'm surprised so much is being made of it. Good lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Ok I will tweet later that I gave 5 quid to a bloke at work for a charity run he did. But because I am not famous the press wont look at my tweet and I wont get the publicity I was looking for. If your going to do a good deed there is no need to tell the world about it. But also it is good to remember he is only young and could be doing far worse than advertising a charity. If you tweeted the exact same message as Shaw I doubt you would get ANY criticism for it, because people aren't bitter and twisted about that fact you earn lots more money than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 What a joke. What is wrong with people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 If he wanted to give money to charity he should have just picked up the phone and donated like everyone else. Yes we love him but he has done this to make himself look good. He did not have to tweet it he could have just donated silently like the rest of the general public. But the way he did it he gave publicity to Children in Need, so that other people might donate as well. Of course he could have just donated silently like a lot of people do (or not donated at all like a lot of other people, me included), or he could have done a little bit to get other people involved as well. It seems like 38000 saw that what he was doing was worthwhile and so may have not only indirectly donated through Luke but also may have considered donating themselves in some other way (of course its very easy to retweet). Why do people think this is attention seeking, some "people" need to grow up, this is how charity fund raising works. Sadly, by using Twitter, a tool that attracts morons (or is it a tool that attracts tools) by the bucket load, he got some completely unwarranted stick. He should learn from this to just avoid Twitter. Luke, if you read this, well done lad for trying to do something worthwhile, ignore the morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Ok I will tweet later that I gave 5 quid to a bloke at work for a charity run he did. But because I am not famous the press wont look at my tweet and I wont get the publicity I was looking for. If your going to do a good deed there is no need to tell the world about it. But also it is good to remember he is only young and could be doing far worse than advertising a charity. I gave a tenner each to a couple of guys at work doing Movember and £25 to the P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 ...hilippines typhoon appeal - can I have some attention too please? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 ...hilippines typhoon appeal - can I have some attention too please? :/ I see One Direction are involved in some fund raising event for the Phillipines : The boyband will launch a special celebrity telethon via Twitter while a host of other stars will answer calls from people donating to the Disasters Emergency Committee's (DEC) emergency fund which has so far raised £35 million for the humanitarian effort in the Philippines. Broadcaster Andrew Marr, celebrity chef Jamie Oliver, comedian Stephen Merchant and actors Alan Rickman, Joanne Froggatt and Allen Leech will all be manning the lines at BT Tower in central London from 4pm to 7pm tomorrow. What an attention seeking bunch of bastards this lot are. They should be "outed" for what they really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Anyone who has a problem with what Luke has done is obviously a c*nt. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Ok I will tweet later that I gave 5 quid to a bloke at work for a charity run he did. But because I am not famous the press wont look at my tweet and I wont get the publicity I was looking for. If your going to do a good deed there is no need to tell the world about it. But also it is good to remember he is only young and could be doing far worse than advertising a charity. Dont be an idiot all your life, in this case the whole point was to raise awareness by giving people a reason to retweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 All the abuse was started by Swansea fan @apuffoflogic27 on twitter, he said: 'If Luke Shaw had donated a £ for every retweet he got, that would have been more admirable. But 10p? Come on man.' Saints fans responded, defending Luke, Luke got wind of it as someone had put @luke_shaw3 in their tweet and he replied to people. 'Do you think I care about followers?' 'Do you think I care about retweets?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 He could have donated the money and just stfu about it. No idea why he had to attract attention about it. Can't say I would demand he take it down though; it just makes him look a bit naive IMO. Saying that, he is a bloody simpleton from what comes across in interviews so it all adds up. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 He could have donated the money and just stfu about it. No idea why he had to attract attention about it. Can't say I would demand he take it down though; it just makes him look a bit naive IMO. Saying that, he is a bloody simpleton from what comes across in interviews so it all adds up. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Perhaps you're losing sight of the fact he's only 18, and very much of the internet-twitter generation. Perhaps he should be better advised, but its difficult without a blanket ban on the use of such media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 We do have some funny fans don't we? Funny peculiar, not funny ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 He could have donated the money and just stfu about it. No idea why he had to attract attention about it. Can't say I would demand he take it down though; it just makes him look a bit naive IMO. Saying that, he is a bloody simpleton from what comes across in interviews so it all adds up. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Because the amount of retweets determined how much he donated ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Because the amount of retweets determined how much he donated ffs. LOL...... i's not rocket science is it? I'm scratching my head at this thread. Bloke does something to raise money for charity and gets slammed for it. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Was he slammed though? Problem with any footballer on Twitter is that they get slaughtered by fans of other clubs whatever they post regardless of content. As someone said earlier amazing they stick with it. Media just trawl Twitter for stories and most of time hardly worth an eyebrow being raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 And bet 95% of replies were along the lines of 'well done Luke my son' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Because the amount of retweets determined how much he donated ffs. Yes, and he didn't have to turn it into a Twitter game; that was the point. He could have donated any sum of his own choosing and not felt the need to involve the internet at all. So don't Ffs me you moron. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 Yes, and he didn't have to turn it into a Twitter game; that was the point. He could have donated any sum of his own choosing and not felt the need to involve the internet at all. So don't Ffs me you moron. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You are a ****ing moron, with a very inept username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 17 November, 2013 Share Posted 17 November, 2013 He could have donated the money and just stfu about it. No idea why he had to attract attention about it. Can't say I would demand he take it down though; it just makes him look a bit naive IMO. Saying that, he is a bloody simpleton from what comes across in interviews so it all adds up. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Why is he a simpleton? and how does it all add up, not quite following this. Is it not a bit like the government saying they would match X ammount raised for the phillipines upto a certain ammount. He probably thought he was doing good, and in my eyes he was. Can not see how this thread has disintegrated into Saints fans having a dig at a Saints player, a young one at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 Yes, and he didn't have to turn it into a Twitter game; that was the point. He could have donated any sum of his own choosing and not felt the need to involve the internet at all. So don't Ffs me you moron. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk The point was that he is not only donating money but also raising awareness. Can do that without publicity can you? I think what he has done is admirable. Yes he's opened himself up a little but he's been willing to donate up to 11k (given he has 110,000 followers) to charity and also raise awareness of the cause. Fair play I say. What he doesn't need is people like you hiding behind their PC's making comments like Saying that, he is a bloody simpleton from what comes across in interviews so it all adds up. It's people like you and comments like this that make me despair of the internet and social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 If he wanted to give money to charity he should have just picked up the phone and donated like everyone else. Yes we love him but he has done this to make himself look good. He did not have to tweet it he could have just donated silently like the rest of the general public. The whole premiss of CiN is for celebs to be seen doing something; they are doing something and you are so its a joint enterprise with the beloved celebs. It is all very visible but thats why it raised 31m. You seemed to be missing quiet a lot of points on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie saint Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 Him 'turning it into a twitter game' is EXACTLY the same as someone's mate doing a sponsored run... and therefore completely fine. Obviously. People do these things, whatever they are (including almost every other enterprise surrounding Children in Need), to nudge people into giving to charity - something people may not do otherwise. I have no idea if 10p per retweet is generous in the context of his wages or not - and it's really not for us to judge, is it? £3800 sounds quite a lot to come out of one person's pocket, anyway - so well done him. What a twisted world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 Well done Luke. Sh!t play, haters. Think that covers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 I think it's pretty safe to assume that he thought he was simply doing a good thing and just wanted to donate some money. Yes he shouldn't have used Twitter and maybe just kept it private but he's just a kid at the end of the day. It really is concerning when people start handing out abuse to someone offering to donate to charity, no matter what method they are using. If you disagree with it then keep your mouth shut and retweet anyway to help someone less fortunate than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 He could have donated the money and just stfu about it. No idea why he had to attract attention about it. Can't say I would demand he take it down though; it just makes him look a bit naive IMO. Saying that, he is a bloody simpleton from what comes across in interviews so it all adds up. I do enjoy your pearls of wisdom "soton" joe.... On Lambert... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45831-Lambert-to-Reading&p=1741257#post1741257 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?44815-Lambert&p=1690951#post1690951 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42901-Tadanari-Lee-on-his-way&p=1606897#post1606897 On Lallana... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1729783#post1729783 On Wanyama... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1716726#post1716726 On "Clotese"... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1642178#post1642178 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1641272#post1641272 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43463-Newcastle-4-2-Southampton-Post-Match-Reaction&p=1632126#post1632126 On Pochettino... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42893-So-looking-unlikely-to-make-any-further-transfers-what-do-you-think&p=1606325#post1606325 On Rupert Lowe... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42573-Cortese-Lowe-on-steroids!&p=1593967#post1593967 And, yes, this post does make me very sad indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 I do enjoy your pearls of wisdom "soton" joe.... On Lambert... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45831-Lambert-to-Reading&p=1741257#post1741257 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?44815-Lambert&p=1690951#post1690951 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42901-Tadanari-Lee-on-his-way&p=1606897#post1606897 On Lallana... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1729783#post1729783 On Wanyama... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1716726#post1716726 On "Clotese"... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1642178#post1642178 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1641272#post1641272 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43463-Newcastle-4-2-Southampton-Post-Match-Reaction&p=1632126#post1632126 On Pochettino... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42893-So-looking-unlikely-to-make-any-further-transfers-what-do-you-think&p=1606325#post1606325 On Rupert Lowe... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42573-Cortese-Lowe-on-steroids!&p=1593967#post1593967 And, yes, this post does make me very sad indeed... This guy is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 I think you're being unfair to "Sotonjoe"...it's not clever to kick a man who is clearly not the "full shilling" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 November, 2013 I do enjoy your pearls of wisdom "soton" joe.... On Lambert... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45831-Lambert-to-Reading&p=1741257#post1741257 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?44815-Lambert&p=1690951#post1690951 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42901-Tadanari-Lee-on-his-way&p=1606897#post1606897 On Lallana... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1729783#post1729783 On Wanyama... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1716726#post1716726 On "Clotese"... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1642178#post1642178 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1641272#post1641272 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43463-Newcastle-4-2-Southampton-Post-Match-Reaction&p=1632126#post1632126 On Pochettino... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42893-So-looking-unlikely-to-make-any-further-transfers-what-do-you-think&p=1606325#post1606325 On Rupert Lowe... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42573-Cortese-Lowe-on-steroids!&p=1593967#post1593967 And, yes, this post does make me very sad indeed... "Just a fatter Guly. No thanks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 November, 2013 Share Posted 18 November, 2013 I do enjoy your pearls of wisdom "soton" joe.... On Lambert... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45831-Lambert-to-Reading&p=1741257#post1741257 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?44815-Lambert&p=1690951#post1690951 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42901-Tadanari-Lee-on-his-way&p=1606897#post1606897 On Lallana... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1729783#post1729783 On Wanyama... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45365-Victor-Wanyama-Officially-Signed&p=1716726#post1716726 On "Clotese"... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1642178#post1642178 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43691-Who-would-we-be-higher-under-Adkins-or-Pochettino&p=1641272#post1641272 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43463-Newcastle-4-2-Southampton-Post-Match-Reaction&p=1632126#post1632126 On Pochettino... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42893-So-looking-unlikely-to-make-any-further-transfers-what-do-you-think&p=1606325#post1606325 On Rupert Lowe... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42573-Cortese-Lowe-on-steroids!&p=1593967#post1593967 And, yes, this post does make me very sad indeed... Dear sotonjoe. In the event that you ever need to know the definition of "f**king pwned", please refer to trousers' post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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