Viking Warrior Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Why is it that a major disaster happens in the world and then you hear the media and in particular the BBC stating Britain is sending warships to the area . why can they not just say Britain is sending royal navel vessels to the area to help those that who have been hit by the hurricane instead if warships . It's not the first time the RN have helped with disaster relief . Those on board have many skills and are able to get to these areas very quickly . I'm sure the Aussies etc will also be sending their navy and airforce to the area to assist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Does it matter in the whole scheme of things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 Make the most of it as within a very few years the R.N. won't be in a position to be able to go and help anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 Probably because it's a term that has stuck from when we had a spot of bother round the Empire send in a Warship and normality returned, and all was well. We were once such a powerful fighting nation even when a Navy boat floated up the Hudson River in then New Amsterdam the Dutch more or less went "Errr right!, Um.......... Take it, it's yours". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 (edited) We were once such a powerful fighting nation even when a Navy boat floated up the Hudson River in then New Amsterdam the Dutch more or less went "Errr right!, Um.......... Take it, it's yours". Ropey grasp of history. The English sent warships to takeover a civilian trading post. As a direct result the second Anglo Dutch war started - in which the Dutch trounced us - including a raid on our main naval base at Chatham when they sank or stole 15 ships - including the Navy's flagship. We sued for peace and in exchange for New Amsterdam the Dutch got Surinam - which was much bigger and far more valuable. Edited 13 November, 2013 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 13 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 13 November, 2013 You do not hear the Media and particulalry the BBC refer to the RAF hercules aircraft as war plans , who are also involved in this relief effort , They state a hercules aircraft from the RAF is involved If they are going to refer to The RN involvement why cannot they not just Say HMS Daring is helping out Not the UK is sending a Warship to the area. They are not going there because it is a war, but because the UK and other countries around the world are helping out with the disaster relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 Why is it that a major disaster happens in the world and then you hear the media and in particular the BBC stating Britain is sending warships to the area . why can they not just say Britain is sending royal navel vessels to the area to help those that who have been hit by the hurricane instead if warships . It's not the first time the RN have helped with disaster relief . Those on board have many skills and are able to get to these areas very quickly . I'm sure the Aussies etc will also be sending their navy and airforce to the area to assist Does it really matter? HMS Daring is a WARSHIP and she is being detached from exercises in the area to go to the aid of the survivors. She along with WARSHIPS from other navies are enroute, from the BBC earlier 'The US has deployed an aircraft carrier and navy ships, while the UK is sending a naval destroyer' and this from The Australian 'Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron pledged STG10 million ($A17.17 million) worth of humanitarian aid, and was deploying a Royal Navy warship and Royal Air Force military transport aircraft to help in relief efforts'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 If they are going to refer to The RN involvement why cannot they not just Say HMS Daring is helping out Or as they said on R. Solent this morning "HMS Darling". Always had my doubts about those sailor boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 13 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 13 November, 2013 For those that dont know HMS Daring is a type 45 destroyer . They are going to the philipines to provide , aide shelter and fresh water ads the vessel is equiped with a desalination unit. My only concern is that it is full steam ahead for the vessel, that will cost the navy thousands as they will burn more fuel than normal and probably cause more green environmental damage by going too fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 For those that dont know HMS Daring is a type 45 destroyer . They are going to the philipines to provide , aide shelter and fresh water ads the vessel is equiped with a desalination unit. My only concern is that it is full steam ahead for the vessel, that will cost the navy thousands as they will burn more fuel than normal and probably cause more green environmental damage by going too fast Good real exercise for the crew. They spend thousands anyway keeping ships in port or floating around on ambassadorial jaunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 You do not hear the Media and particulalry the BBC refer to the RAF hercules aircraft as war plans , who are also involved in this relief effort , They state a hercules aircraft from the RAF is involved If they are going to refer to The RN involvement why cannot they not just Say HMS Daring is helping out Not the UK is sending a Warship to the area. They are not going there because it is a war, but because the UK and other countries around the world are helping out with the disaster relief But isn't the maritime version of a Hercules an RFA ship? If Typhoons are mentioned in the news they're called something like a "fighter aircraft". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 The skipper of Daring is the son of my old skipper. Jack is a dab hand at these disaster emergency dos having had lots of practice in the Windies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 they would only be having fun like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 14 November, 2013 Share Posted 14 November, 2013 Ropey grasp of history. The English sent warships to takeover a civilian trading post. As a direct result the second Anglo Dutch war started - in which the Dutch trounced us - including a raid on our main naval base at Chatham when they sank or stole 15 ships - including the Navy's flagship. We sued for peace and in exchange for New Amsterdam the Dutch got Surinam - which was much bigger and far more valuable. I was led to believe in the first instance Stuyvesant who was a cantankerous old bugger has been put in place as Governor of this Dutch Sovereign land. he was in place for 15-16 years, had upset the Swedes up river, the Indians they traded a few trinkets with for the land in the first place probably had worked out they had gotten a raw deal, so when Captain Nicholls rocked up on behalf of CharlesII who couldnt give a monkeys about peace with the Dutch. Stuyvesant got wind of the British turning up and laying claim to the Land that Charles had decided should be his or at least his brothers the Duke of York. He got all the powder and shot he could and made everyone come and help to re inforce the Fort battlements ready to repel the British. There was a bit of correspondence between Stuyvesant and Nicholls which resulted in Nicholls sugeesting a chat at Manhattan if the Dutch came nicely and raised a white flag over the New Amsterdam Fort. This made Syuyvesant seethe and pumped him up ready for a fight, which put the fear of god into the inhabitants especially as they had no allies further up the Island, they had enough shot and powder to last barely a day and very little food, against 4 boats and 400 soldiers the inhabitants along with his son eventually made Stuyvesant see that to resist would be madness against such force so he surrendered and left the Fort with his meagre army and left on a boat for The Netherlands. 9 years later and we were at war with Holland and the Dutch took back Fort New York and renamed it Fort Orange, when that war was over the agreement with the Dutch was made that we have the American land back: this was probably where Surinam came into the equation. Either way the Dutch still surrended New Amsterdam without a shot being fired in the first instance in the face of superior British Firepower. Being so close to the Muppet show I figured the super abridged version would have done the trick in the first instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 14 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 14 November, 2013 The BBC now a US aircraft carrier and its escort of two cruisers are due to arrive off the Philippines to help communities devastated by Typhoon Haiyan. they have also mobilised a USN hospital ship Mean while the UK sends a warship maybe the real messsage the bbc is conveying is due to all the military cut backs we only now have one warship the rest have been either scrapped or mothballed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 14 November, 2013 Share Posted 14 November, 2013 My only concern is that it is full steam ahead for the vessel, that will cost the navy thousands as they will burn more fuel than normal and probably cause more green environmental damage by going too fast That is my concern as well. Surely the boat can just slow down a bit and not do damage to the environment. There's no rush or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 14 November, 2013 Share Posted 14 November, 2013 The BBC now a US aircraft carrier and its escort of two cruisers are due to arrive off the Philippines to help communities devastated by Typhoon Haiyan. they have also mobilised a USN hospital ship Mean while the UK sends a warship maybe the real messsage the bbc is conveying is due to all the military cut backs we only now have one warship the rest have been either scrapped or mothballed US Navy is much larger than Royal Navy shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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