Bearsy Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Strangely aren't Mongolia one of the few nations not to enter the FIFA world cup ? They were at one time, don't know if they do now, don't even know if they've got a team. I believe they had a team in the Special Olympics? I didn't watch it myself but i heard someone talking bout it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Semantics, the question was do you think Adkins should have been sacked at all. The answer was yes, he'd taken us as far as he could and he f*cked up the GK job which was costing us points by the shedload, but let's not go there, we can start it all up again in General sports when(if) he gets sacked by Reading. I know for a fact that at least 3 clubs have been impressed by our success since Cortese's decision, and are also looking at sacking Adkins. One of them is Villa, one I suppose is Reading. I don't know who the other one is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I had a brief chat with him at Palafrugell on the pre season tour. He was quite fluent and chatted happily about the tour. Adam Blackmore has also stated on air that MoPo can speak English quite well. When he feels confident about talking to journo's who quite often ask questions that are 'dressed up' (even for experienced English speaking managers) then he will handle the interviews himself. As to the original question in the OP, I would take a guess at 5pm on April 5th, just after our win at the Etihad pips City for the last Champions League spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football. I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster. We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke. Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage. Great post Misguided Missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Great post Misguided Missile. see post 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joneth Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 My understanding is that NC has specifically requested that Poch uses an interpretor in interviews to protect him from the media. He speaks English more than adequately and has done from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Great post Misguided Missile. Thanks, Sherlock...It also begs the question of what benefit does NC expect to gain sacking NA now? That we finish a few places higher than we would have under NA? That's a trivial, practically meaningless gain. That NC felt that MP will keep us up while he fears that NA would have taken us down? That might have been more convincing a few months ago but less so now. That NC thinks a change in management will allow us to secure signings in what remains of the transfer window? Who knows we haven't signed anyone yet. That NC wants to give MP a settling in period ahead of a good crack next season? Not worth the risk. That MP became available only recently and NC had to have him come what may? Hard to believe given NC had penciled in several targets. Still don't understand what NC had to gain doing things now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Not overly fussed to be honest. In terms of Southampton FC and its importance to me in different ways, seeing the manager pop up on BBC or Sky for a minute at a time to do an interview doesn't rank very highly. We know he speaks English, and he has done when on his own with the club media team... Dejan's signing and also the awards dinner. Keep up the results and speak when you are ready, Mauricio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Re-read what Gemmel originally wrote... he is referring to a friend of his, who met MP and his son. Nothing to do with the interpreter. I understand what he wrote, I am just saying that the person who he is referring to as "his son" is in fact his interpreter. Just because the bloke is small that doesn't make him a child! I don't even think that MP has a child, there's certainly no mention of one on his Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauricio_Pochettino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Is sacking Nigel Adkins today the correct decision? Yes 6.64% Bensfcno1, ByTheGolacs, channonball, choccyboxkid, Dalek2003, DarrenLeTiss, david in sweden, dickyhale, Dr Octopus, equalizer, farawaysaint, FarehamRed, gaz, Guided Missile, hugh, John B, JustinR, loz1991, lydlinch saints, mack rill, manina-pub, manji, musesaint, Nick75Sfc, Nolan, opthomps, ozzmeister, Painswick Saint, Pedro, Pete Pots, RonManager, Rorymac, saint77, saintalan, SaintJimbo, skintsaint, sotonianproud, StBaz, tartan_saint, the colonel, Tony10, wadesmith, Waterside.saint, Winchester Red, Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Is sacking Nigel Adkins today the correct decision? Yes 6.64% Bensfcno1, ByTheGolacs, channonball, choccyboxkid, Dalek2003, DarrenLeTiss, david in sweden, dickyhale, Dr Octopus, equalizer, farawaysaint, FarehamRed, gaz, Guided Missile, hugh, John B, JustinR, loz1991, lydlinch saints, mack rill, manina-pub, manji, musesaint, Nick75Sfc, Nolan, opthomps, ozzmeister, Painswick Saint, Pedro, Pete Pots, RonManager, Rorymac, saint77, saintalan, SaintJimbo, skintsaint, sotonianproud, StBaz, tartan_saint, the colonel, Tony10, wadesmith, Waterside.saint, Winchester Red, Window Cleaner Hmmm, seem to be a lot of the oldies, been there done that in that list. People with a wealth of experience who knew that something wasn't quite right with Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I understand what he wrote, I am just saying that the person who he is referring to as "his son" is in fact his interpreter. Just because the bloke is small that doesn't make him a child! I don't even think that MP has a child, there's certainly no mention of one on his Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauricio_Pochettino MP has some children, the oldest must be quite grown up by now. Probably about 16 or so. Remember seeing him brought onto the pitch when PSG won something or other. Not at all sure that they don't still live in Spain though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 My understanding is that NC has specifically requested that Poch uses an interpretor in interviews to protect him from the media. He speaks English more than adequately and has done from day 1. On 5live Monday night club Skate Claridge, Motty and McGarry were discussing him. One of them (I cant recall which one, but I think it was Skate Claridge) said he met him at an airport and said "he speaks good English". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I understand what he wrote, I am just saying that the person who he is referring to as "his son" is in fact his interpreter. Just because the bloke is small that doesn't make him a child! I don't even think that MP has a child, there's certainly no mention of one on his Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauricio_Pochettino He has a son - Who plays for Totton Reserves - right Midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Thanks, Sherlock... And MM? I had no issue with the change just the timing. It should have made earlier or after we were safe. Not like we got over the line with lots to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 November, 2013 And MM? I had no issue with the change just the timing. It should have made earlier or after we were safe. Not like we got over the line with lots to spare. Me too - I answered no as the question was very specific. "Is sacking Nigel Adkins today the correct decision?" I wanted him sacked 4 months earlier - we may have had a chance at Europe then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He wants to avoid the sort of scenario summed up beautifully here:- Alternatively, his interpreter who is a personal friend of his has a work visa to assist Pochettino here and needs to be here 2 years to qualify for indefinite leave to remain, so still some time to go before he reaches that stage. Or he wants to avoid this type of scenario: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1sprC3-nmM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I understand what he wrote, I am just saying that the person who he is referring to as "his son" is in fact his interpreter. Just because the bloke is small that doesn't make him a child! I don't even think that MP has a child, there's certainly no mention of one on his Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauricio_Pochettino He does have a son and he is actually is a decent winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He has a son - Who plays for Totton Reserves - right Midfield. He does have a son and he is actually is a decent winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He does have a son and he is actually is a decent winger. I see Gemmell beat me to it but I have watched him play twice....looks to have a good touch and eye for a pass - he also scored in the game I watched him play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He does have a son and he is actually is a decent winger. Must take after his mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Is sacking Nigel Adkins today the correct decision? Yes 6.64% Bensfcno1, ByTheGolacs, channonball, choccyboxkid, Dalek2003, DarrenLeTiss, david in sweden, dickyhale, Dr Octopus, equalizer, farawaysaint, FarehamRed, gaz, Guided Missile, hugh, John B, JustinR, loz1991, lydlinch saints, mack rill, manina-pub, manji, musesaint, Nick75Sfc, Nolan, opthomps, ozzmeister, Painswick Saint, Pedro, Pete Pots, RonManager, Rorymac, saint77, saintalan, SaintJimbo, skintsaint, sotonianproud, StBaz, tartan_saint, the colonel, Tony10, wadesmith, Waterside.saint, Winchester Red, Window Cleaner Do those of us that abstained get an honourable mention too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Do those of us that abstained get an honourable mention too? Nah, nothing worse than a fence straddler The wise 45 took a lot of flack , fence straddlers... not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 lol @ mack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Nah, nothing worse than a fence straddler The wise 45 took a lot of flack , fence straddlers... not so much. Nah, it wasn't fence sitting. It was simply observing a mis-match between a closed question and an open scenario. For the same reason if someone asks me "Does God exist?" my answer isn't "yes" or "no". The only logical answer to both questions is "I've no idea, let's wait and see" Being the only logical pragmatist on the forum has got to be worth some kudos points, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Being the only logical pragmatist on the forum has got to be worth some kudos points, surely? Oh go on then 2KPs for effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&highlight=Adkins#.UoIobnBdCSo Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport First thing first - Pochettino will be doing a press conference at 2:30pm - with an interpreter - he doesn't speak English ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Oh go on then 2KPs for effort Thanks Here was my initial post on that thread, for what its worth.... "I also admit that a part of me is excited by this appointment. Yes, I'm as disappointed as anyone with Adkins going - I wanted him to stay - but life goes on and this appointment COULD take us to a higher level quicker than Nigel could. We'll ultimately never know but, yes, I do admit an element of excitement about what the future now holds. Shoot me down." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Is sacking Nigel Adkins today the correct decision? Yes 6.64% Bensfcno1, ByTheGolacs, channonball, choccyboxkid, Dalek2003, DarrenLeTiss, david in sweden, dickyhale, Dr Octopus, equalizer, farawaysaint, FarehamRed, gaz, Guided Missile, hugh, John B, JustinR, loz1991, lydlinch saints, mack rill, manina-pub, manji, musesaint, Nick75Sfc, Nolan, opthomps, ozzmeister, Painswick Saint, Pedro, Pete Pots, RonManager, Rorymac, saint77, saintalan, SaintJimbo, skintsaint, sotonianproud, StBaz, tartan_saint, the colonel, Tony10, wadesmith, Waterside.saint, Winchester Red, Window Cleaner Most of those are just arse-holes trying to be different for the sake of it. Cortese could say night doesn't follow day and at least 6% of the mongboard would come out in agreement, don't try and pretend you know anything about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 It certainly seemed like a callback to before we knew anything. Pointless then. Not sure what the 31/37 you're referring to is? *EDIT - "enlightened" now. Ah, I see above it's a quoting of Wes Tender. Why you'd post that without the context God only knows. As you rightly say, it was precisely a reaction to the events back at the start of the year and even looking back on what I said then, it looks quite a grounded and reasonable position to hold, based on the information on Pochettino that was in the public domain at the time. Why did Misguided quote my post without the context? Two reasons. Firstly he doesn't like me, so in his very small-minded way he relished the opportunity to score points against me. Secondly, he likes to show what a clever clogs he is for being one of the few who felt themselves justified in deciding (without any particular basis of fact) that Pochettino would do a better job as manager than Adkins. When he singles me out, he should also acknowledge that 95% or so other posters on this forum thought that the dismissal of Adkins was the wrong decision at the time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Not speaking coherent English didn't stop Fergie doing interviews. No, but doing a TV documentary on his son did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Don't care if he never speaks English in interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I heard that when asked about this he said "Voy a seguir para dar entrevistas en español, mientras que la perilla de Glasgow utiliza el nombre estúpido MoPo en lugar de mi nombre real." How about people learn Spanish then it wouldn't matter. To be fair his Spanish in interviews are generally quite understandable even for those who are not fluent. He usually congratulates the players and a few other repeats. His interviews even in Spanish are far more meaningful/insightful than those given by many other PL/CCC managers who purport to speak English. While I recognise all (most) of the words Saggy Chops uses for instance, they do not make for a coherent reply to any questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I reckon he's just trolling. If the interviewer asked him a question in Spanish he'd prob answer in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I do speak Spanish (& French, some German and a little Italian) thats how i know how easy it is. The government are working hard and insisting foreigners adapt (Australia = adapt or leave) and asking people to learn the lingo...... Mopo should be looking to set an example. The general impression that the media have (and other fans) is that he's being lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I do speak Spanish (& French, some German and a little Italian) thats how i know how easy it is. The government are working hard and insisting foreigners adapt (Australia = adapt or leave) and asking people to learn the lingo...... Mopo should be looking to set an example. The general impression that the media have (and other fans) is that he's being lazy. Really? Is that after we have beaten them? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Nigel Adkins very rarely actually spoke English. Unless cliched tosh is now applicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Nigel Adkins very rarely actually spoke English. Unless cliched tosh is now applicable. Art of War, never let your opponents know what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 The general impression that the media have (and other fans) is that he's being lazy. No one cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I laugh every time this stupid subject rears its ugly head. I hope Poch never gives an interview in English, its hysterical seeing so many on here getting so worked up about it as if it really matters. How many times have people got to be told he speaks perfectly decent English but is sensible enough to use a translator for the British press....Anyhow i perfectly understand what he is saying and its all good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 this is something that I can comment on with some degree of authority....as I've been teaching English to foreigners for almost 3 decades. Understanding what you are listening to is the first step in the exercise. (My rather poor Spanish has improved a little just by listening to him in the QA sessions.) YES - Pochettino can understand a lot ..his facial expressions and body language tell us that, but the vocabulary used by some journalists with differing dialects varies a lot, and isn't always that clear. YES - he speaks English (of sorts) to players, but the day-to-day vocabulary on the training ground is surely not that demanding. It's a lot of standard terminolgy and practical application on the field. I think he's wise to continue with his interpreter if he feels safer, it gives him more thinking time to reply (even if he appears to understand questions from the beginning). btw : " his shadow " is an interpreter ... I think I'd use translator for someone working with texts rather than the spoken word (although some people do both quite well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I had a brief chat with him at Palafrugell on the pre season tour. He was quite fluent and chatted happily about the tour. .. +1 same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He has a son - Who plays for Totton Reserves - right Midfield. Ah - now it makes a lot more sense why MoPo wanted to move to the area then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 On 5live Monday night club Skate Claridge, Motty and McGarry were discussing him. One of them (I cant recall which one, but I think it was Skate Claridge) said he met him at an airport and said "he speaks good English". They also admitted to being "done" by MP "as he can clearly speak English". They took it in good spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 When I was young, the queerest/strangest relationship in football was Brian Clough and Peter Taylor. Had people constantly talking and gossiping. So Pochettino and his interpretor are today's strange relatonship, a kind of football bromance. They do make an interesting couple, a kind of Ant and Dec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He spoke pretty good english at the awards dinner at the end of last season. Add on 6 months worth of lessons and living here since then and I'd say he would be pretty much fluent by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 I think it's an excellent way of preventing the media twisting his words. He's clearly more than capable of communicating with the players to get his message across, and that's all that matters. I'm all for it, and if it winds up journos it makes it even better!! He obviously can understand English pretty well, and will understand the questions before being translated to him, but that time delay gives him an extra few moments to think about his answer rather than firing from the hip, especially moments after the game has finished when emotions can be running high. I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 It would be great if we all discovered he has an English accent like Mick Channon's after his first interview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 I really don't understand people's fixation with the fact that MP uses an interpreter for his press interviews. In am sure the late and great Sir Bobby Robson did not do press interviews in Dutch, Portuguese or Spanish when he managed PSV, Porto or Barca! We can see and sometimes hear that he speaks to the players in English, surely as long as he gets his point over to them, which is the most important thing, then the fact he does not do interviews in English pales into insignificance. COYRs. Remember what a cock Steve Mclaren made of himself when trying to speak 'English' press conferences in Holland and Germany! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 13 November, 2013 Share Posted 13 November, 2013 After the game you see him talk to the opposition manager and having a laugh and a joke so I presume he can talk English to a decent standard. The fact that he uses an interpreter doesn't really bother me, sooner or later he'll start to talk in English when he's good and ready. 3rd in the table and playing blinding football is what matters to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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