John Boy Saint Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 . Remember what a cock Steve Mclaren made of himself when trying to speak 'English' press conferences in Holland and Germany! LOL Although not a manager: Monsieur Joey B-artonne holding a press interview while on loan last season at Marsailles avec Le accent Francais! (Ahem that said I found myself doing the same after speaking improving French only every evening for 10 days!).
DuncanRG Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 I'm not that fussed, but it would be nice to get a bit of personality from the manager. It's sometimes frustrating to see him getting animated, smiling etc and his words coming out as 'basically, yes, we're happy with the team.'
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 November, 2013 Author Posted 13 November, 2013 I'm not that fussed, but it would be nice to get a bit of personality from the manager. It's sometimes frustrating to see him getting animated, smiling etc and his words coming out as 'basically, yes, we're happy with the team.' agreed - feeling is that once youve seen one mopo interview youve seen them all
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 agreed - feeling is that once youve seen one mopo interview youve seen them all In fairness, aside a few 'characters' (Jose, Holloway), that's true of most managers.
The9 Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 Hmmm, seem to be a lot of the oldies, been there done that in that list. People with a wealth of experience who knew that something wasn't quite right with Adkins. And at least one Skate.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 November, 2013 Author Posted 13 November, 2013 In fairness, aside a few 'characters' (Jose, Holloway), that's true of most managers. that is true
pap Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 In fairness, aside a few 'characters' (Jose, Holloway), that's true of most managers. Especially the previous manager. What's Spanish for honest, hardworking group of professionals?
Saint George Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 I really don't understand people's fixation with the fact that MP uses an interpreter for his press interviews. In am sure the late and great Sir Bobby Robson did not do press interviews in Dutch, Portuguese or Spanish when he managed PSV, Porto or Barca! We can see and sometimes hear that he speaks to the players in English, surely as long as he gets his point over to them, which is the most important thing, then the fact he does not do interviews in English pales into insignificance. COYRs. Remember what a cock Steve Mclaren made of himself when trying to speak 'English' press conferences in Holland and Germany! LOL There isn't...It's only Glasgow out with his fishing pole again...and as usual he caught a net full......When are ya'll going to learn?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 November, 2013 Author Posted 13 November, 2013 There isn't...It's only Glasgow out with his fishing pole again...and as usual he caught a net full......When are ya'll going to learn? Take a look at the thread mate.... Its about 50/50 now as alot of us just feel a year is long enough and agree he should be making more effort. The 50% that "dont care" are a mix of those that will allow anything as long as the results are good while others are just happy to have a club and dont care about anything or anyone. Its a very small % that REALLY dont care, but have told us 10x that they really REALLY dont care, so means they do.
Saint Lindford Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 he should be making more effort. Doubt very much the fans of Barca, Porto or PSV really cared that Sir Bobby Robson did not speak their language when he was in charge at those clubs. We have a manager who has taken us, so far, to 3rd in the PL whilst playing some of the best football many of us can remember for a very long time, the fact that he chooses to do press conferences etc in his native tongue means diddly squat. Christ, if all you have to moan at is the fact that after a year our manger is not conversing with the press corps in English god help us when (and IF) we lose 4 or 5 games on the trot.
Saint86 Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 It's not a big deal... it would be *nice* if only for the fans, to hear things directly from him because something is always lost in translation, but I don't think many (if any) fans really care that much. Personally, I think its being done to keep an air of obscurity or mystery and keep the pressure off. I can believe there is a little bit of nervous-nous on his part for sure (perhaps that's not the right word for it)... but its a lot harder to play mind games with someone who doesn't speak English, and won't give you a response don't you think. Him not speaking English in in public suits us fine at the moment.
david in sweden Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 I'm all for it, and if it winds up journos it makes it even better!! He obviously can understand English pretty well, and will understand the questions before being translated to him, but that time delay gives him an extra few moments to think about his answer rather than firing from the hip, especially moments after the game has finished when emotions can be running high. I'm all for it. Exactly my point on #91. well said Eric.
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 November, 2013 Posted 13 November, 2013 I was never convinced with the "He can actually speak English" argument, until I heard from a friend outside of Football, who met him (And his Son) and apparently he can. Perfectly coherent conversation.......So this is just his way of protecting himself and don't think you will find many Saints fans who want to argue with any of his decisions so far, so no issue with it from this end. Very hard to believe, you can usually tell when people are playing games like that as invariably they betray their comprehension when the question is put in English. Some people have no aptitude to learn another language especially in their 40's try as they may and I reckon Pochettino is one of them. I wish he would integrate properly into our society otherwise the suspicion will remain that he doesn't aim to be around in England for long.
Joneth Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 Very hard to believe, you can usually tell when people are playing games like that as invariably they betray their comprehension when the question is put in English. Some people have no aptitude to learn another language especially in their 40's try as they may and I reckon Pochettino is one of them. I wish he would integrate properly into our society otherwise the suspicion will remain that he doesn't aim to be around in England for long. He understands and speaks English, not perfectly mind, but well enough to be an excellent manager for this club. Thats not conjecture, its a fact.
Give it to Ron Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 He understands and speaks English, not perfectly mind, but well enough to be an excellent manager for this club. Thats not conjecture, its a fact. Of course he does and only the trolls looking for a bite think otherwise.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 November, 2013 Author Posted 14 November, 2013 Of course he does and only the trolls looking for a bite think otherwise. So he speaks "perfect" English but uses the interpreter just for sh1ts and giggs? You couldnt make this stuff up (oh wait)
qwertySFC Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 I'm not that bothered whether he speaks English to the press - I think his tactics / results and style of play speak for themselves. The players seem to trust him and he is doing a fantastic job of keeping the players grounded and focused upon the next match. What goes on behind the scenes I'm sure is plenty of lauding it up , but in public its calm , basic statements and to be honest I think that is refreshing , why set ourselves up to fail. Another point is SFC don't seem to go out and court this publicity we are getting upon a national basis - so lets keep them guessing how its done.
buctootim Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 You can vaguely understand the motivation for not speaking in English to the press. That doesn't explain why he hasn't communicated to fans through Saints player or some other 'friendly' forum.
Give it to Ron Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 You can vaguely understand the motivation for not speaking in English to the press. That doesn't explain why he hasn't communicated to fans through Saints player or some other 'friendly' forum. What platitudes do you want him to say in English he cant in Spanish his native tongue that makes him comfortable? I would rather he lets the football do the talking anyway.
Ludwig Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 If his tactics are coming through the interpretor then this could lead to future problems. For example if he interpretor is learning all of MPs tactics and ways on the training pitch and could go off and steal his approach, helping another club improve like us. What if this bloke (not sure of his name, but I do know that he's not MPs son!) went to Fulham (opening there soon) and took all of MPs tactics and secrets with him? That would reverse the whole picture - MP wouldnt be able to communicate with our players so our performances will tail off whilst Fulham would basically have an English speaking MP. Some people have suggested that MP is simply the PR face of the club (handome former international, tackled Owen etc) and that its actually the interpretor who is running everything and is the brains, but I'm not sure I buy that.
Marino Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 Paul Lambert needs an interpreter - spouts nasally Scots without moving his lips.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 November, 2013 Author Posted 14 November, 2013 If his tactics are coming through the interpretor then this could lead to future problems. For example if he interpretor is learning all of MPs tactics and ways on the training pitch and could go off and steal his approach, helping another club improve like us. What if this bloke (not sure of his name, but I do know that he's not MPs son!) went to Fulham (opening there soon) and took all of MPs tactics and secrets with him? That would reverse the whole picture - MP wouldnt be able to communicate with our players so our performances will tail off whilst Fulham would basically have an English speaking MP. Some people have suggested that MP is simply the PR face of the club (handome former international, tackled Owen etc) and that its actually the interpretor who is running everything and is the brains, but I'm not sure I buy that. This has been my major concern since day one
buctootim Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 What platitudes do you want him to say in English he cant in Spanish his native tongue that makes him comfortable? I would rather he lets the football do the talking anyway. Odd post. We're told he speaks English perfectly well to the players. I want to hear the manager speak to the fans in English on Saintsplayer - like Jesus Perez, Lovren, Boruc, Yoshida, Schneiderlin and Fonte have done in the past few weeks.
Give it to Ron Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 Odd post. We're told he speaks English perfectly well to the players. I want to hear the manager speak to the fans in English on Saintsplayer - like Jesus Perez, Lovren, Boruc, Yoshida, Schneiderlin and Fonte have done in the past few weeks. Why? what can he say that you need to hear so desperately? Not odd at all I don't get why you need him to tell you what you can clearly see on the OS/Twitter/facebook/on the pitch/Saints player
Ohio Saint Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 It is very daunting to speak a foreign language at any time, especially in front of cameras, I should imagine. How happy would we all be if he finally gave an interview in English and he came across like the English spy passing as a French Gendarme in Allo Allo!? "I told the team to p!ss down the middle and hold their balls."
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 (edited) Why? what can he say that you need to hear so desperately? Not odd at all I don't get why you need him to tell you what you can clearly see on the OS/Twitter/facebook/on the pitch/Saints player It would be pretty much what the interpreter says, only probably in more broken English. I don't get this to be honest. Reminds of those getting really annoyed with Adkins giving evasive answers all the time. Why? Why does it really matter if you don't know exactly how long Adam Lallana is going to be out injured (one example that sticks in my mind)? Edited 14 November, 2013 by KelvinsRightGlove
saintroyt Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 just pleased after hearing mp interview that mr know it all guided missile has had himself look a right knob perhaps he should get his facts right before posting spurious comments
Dig Dig Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 You can vaguely understand the motivation for not speaking in English to the press. That doesn't explain why he hasn't communicated to fans through Saints player or some other 'friendly' forum. I have been kept awake many a night thinking/worrying about this. I don't count the end of season dinner either where he did do an interview in English.
Olallana Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 If his tactics are coming through the interpretor then this could lead to future problems. For example if he interpretor is learning all of MPs tactics and ways on the training pitch and could go off and steal his approach, helping another club improve like us. What if this bloke (not sure of his name, but I do know that he's not MPs son!) went to Fulham (opening there soon) and took all of MPs tactics and secrets with him? That would reverse the whole picture - MP wouldnt be able to communicate with our players so our performances will tail off whilst Fulham would basically have an English speaking MP. Some people have suggested that MP is simply the PR face of the club (handome former international, tackled Owen etc) and that its actually the interpretor who is running everything and is the brains, but I'm not sure I buy that. So how´s your career in comedy working out?
dubai_phil Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 Perhaps he should stick to a translator Kevin Garside @GARSIDEK 19m I send my dreams to the universe, says Pochettino. Heard that a lot growing up in Oldham
Faz Posted 14 November, 2013 Posted 14 November, 2013 porque él es un bastardo testarudo que he tenido que aprender español
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 November, 2013 Author Posted 14 November, 2013 porque él es un bastardo testarudo que he tenido que aprender español Me too mate pressue aumentará una vez que los resultados se vuelven malas
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 March, 2014 Author Posted 30 March, 2014 Heard he did the full post match interview in English? Can anyone confirm? Cant find audio or video online
Patrick Bateman Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 I notice Pepe Mel has changed to having an interpreter now.
Saint Rees Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Heard he did the full post match interview in English? Can anyone confirm? Cant find audio or video online He didn't with saints player/solent if that's what you were thinking
nta786 Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Heard he did the full post match interview in English? Can anyone confirm? Cant find audio or video online Who'd you hear it from?
Olallana Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Who'd you hear it from? Someone on facebook posted it....
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 March, 2014 Author Posted 30 March, 2014 Someone on facebook posted it.... posted a link to the interview? or the rumour? Take it, it didn't happen then!?
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 You could hear hi from the sidelines speaking English. If he did an interview in English it means nothing, all the fans want to hear is how fantastic they are etc etc
VectisSaint Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Heard he did the full post match interview in English? Can anyone confirm? Cant find audio or video online Think you're getting confused with RoMa, he speaks very good English as you well know, ToSa.
Goatboy Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 This has been my major concern since day one If this is true , it just sums up what an absolute plonker you are Rodney.
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 If this is true , it just sums up what an absolute plonker you are Rodney.anything to undermine the manager suits the agenda.
david in sweden Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 on his terms, and only if he wants to. TV 'Experts' missed the point entirely and mocked his appointment as a massive mistake, highlighting that he can't even speak to the players. They seem to be confused by someone who speaks a 2nd language but who doesn't wish to be grilled in that 2nd language, leading to misunderstandings and damaging headlines.. as someone who has spent the last 30 years (trying) to help people conquer the vagaries of the English Language (in Sweden) this is the very point I'd tried to make - on several occasions in the past ......to impatient fans who insist that our manager must speak English to the media. Most importantly... the players understand what he say (in training) and what is necessary to do in matches. His job is to train the players, and he seems to manage that OK, and I for one I prefer to see interviews with players, as I'm sure many other do. The club is performing as well as it has done in the last 30 years, and I for one don't care if MP goes another 2 years without uttering a word in English. Not everyone has a talent for languages and his obviously lie in other areas. If he did start to try and speak English ...it might well prove to be embarrassing for both him and the club. My Spanish is improving a little by listening to him and it seems to me that (like those before him)...he has a limited vocabulary when it comes to answering obvious questions about team perfomances. I'm a bit disappointed you had to bring this up yet AGAIN, Glasgow, I thought this subject had been done to death already. Let it alone - can't you..
david in sweden Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 (edited) Paul Lambert needs an interpreter - spouts nasally Scots without moving his lips. as I recall ...our form dropped badly soon after Gordon Strachan was appointed as even some of the English players couldn't understand him. Edited 31 March, 2014 by david in sweden
70's Mike Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 So back to the OP when do you think he will start doing interviews by himself and in English when he is ready and with people he trusts
70's Mike Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Why does it matter ? because even after a 4-0 win against the side nearest to us in the table, some so called supporters want to find some thing to stir the pot
paulwantsapint Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 My opinion on MoPo not speaking English has been the same since his 1st game Either he can speak English or rickie lambert can speak Spanish
Gemmel Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 This thread scares me. Do we really having people with internet access, in this fair City, that really are that stupid?
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