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It's not a big deal... it would be *nice* if only for the fans, to hear things directly from him because something is always lost in translation, but I don't think many (if any) fans really care that much.

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on his terms, and only if he wants to.

 

TV 'Experts' missed the point entirely and mocked his appointment as a massive mistake, highlighting that he can't even speak to the players.

They seem to be confused by someone who speaks a 2nd language but who doesn't wish to be grilled in that 2nd language, leading to misunderstandings and damaging headlines.

 

I suspect that he sees the likes of Mourinho spouting rubbish every week like a circus clown and considers a more measured approach as the most constructive approach for a proper club that doesn't do it's deals via the media.

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I was never convinced with the "He can actually speak English" argument, until I heard from a friend outside of Football, who met him (And his Son) and apparently he can. Perfectly coherent conversation.......So this is just his way of protecting himself and don't think you will find many Saints fans who want to argue with any of his decisions so far, so no issue with it from this end.

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Until he feels he can express himself well enough in English he'll no doubt continue to get his message across using his interpreter. A sensible precaution against a predatory media who already use their own interpretation of English.

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Apparently he's just had a contract extension, don't know to when that takes him though, probably long enough to speak to us in english which i know for a fact he can do perfectly well. I see it more as a job creation scheme in the provinces.

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Apparently he's just had a contract extension, don't know to when that takes him though, probably long enough to speak to us in english which i know for a fact he can do perfectly well. I see it more as a job creation scheme in the provinces.

 

If he can speak English "Perfect" then why is the club wasting money on a full time translator?

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I was never convinced with the "He can actually speak English" argument, until I heard from a friend outside of Football, who met him (And his Son) and apparently he can. Perfectly coherent conversation.......So this is just his way of protecting himself and don't think you will find many Saints fans who want to argue with any of his decisions so far, so no issue with it from this end.

 

Erm, that's not his son, that's his interpretor.

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If he can speak English "Perfect" then why is the club wasting money on a full time translator?

 

 

Like I said, job creation scheme in the provinces. MPo could speak to the press "perfectly well" but whether he's got the vocabulary for discussions within some of the administrative aspects of his job I couldn't say. I have heard him speak in English when he was at PSG.

Posted
It's not a big deal... it would be *nice* if only for the fans, to hear things directly from him because something is always lost in translation, but I don't think many (if any) fans really care that much.

 

I don't think it is - whenever the interpreter says something Pochettino wants re-framed he interrupts. He understands English well enough to do that so I don't think much is getting lost in translation at all.

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Frankly he can speak Swahili in interviews for all I care. The structure is working and it is preventing him by being misconstrued by having that barrier between him and the journalists.

 

I doubt we will see him speak English in interviews.

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Like I said, job creation scheme in the provinces. MPo could speak to the press "perfectly well" but whether he's got the vocabulary for discussions within some of the administrative aspects of his job I couldn't say. I have heard him speak in English when he was at PSG.

 

So back to the OP when do you think he will start doing interviews by himself and in English

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Erm, that's not his son, that's his interpretor.

 

Errr. No, It was Mo Po and his son..... No interpretor in sight.... As I said this was outside of football.

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So back to the OP when do you think he will start doing interviews by himself and in English

 

Saturday December 7th, about 5pm just after the Man City game. Is that good enough for you?

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Errr. No, It was Mo Po and his son..... No interpretor in sight.... As I said this was outside of football.

 

The little guy who is always next to him is his interpretor, not his son. Whether he is "inside" or "outside" of football, the relationship remains the same.

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I don't think it is - whenever the interpreter says something Pochettino wants re-framed he interrupts. He understands English well enough to do that so I don't think much is getting lost in translation at all.

 

I didn't mean anything significant - just understanding a little more of his sense of humour, or the emphasis he might put on certain words - it can make a difference sometimes and all helps us understand a little more about the man and how he does things.

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The little guy who is always next to him is his interpretor, not his son. Whether he is "inside" or "outside" of football, the relationship remains the same.

 

Re-read what Gemmel originally wrote... he is referring to a friend of his, who met MP and his son. Nothing to do with the interpreter.

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Is it that big a deal?

 

He clearly has no problem getting across what he is trying to achieve to the players.

 

Surely that's the most important thing? Unless you really want some 'Arry style car-window type interviews?

 

Exactly this.

 

You'd be amazed how many people I know who get annoyed by his inability or reluctance to talk in english.

 

I couldn't give a toss tbh.

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Exactly this.

 

You'd be amazed how many people I know who get annoyed by his inability or reluctance to talk in english.

 

I couldn't give a toss tbh.

 

I'm sure that those who sit near the dug outs (if you can still call them that) must hear him speaking to the players. Seems that a sub never goes onto the pitch without getting specific instructions from MPo just beforehand. They can't all speak Spanish and French so you'd presume that the wise words are given in English. It's true that at the beginning if he had something important to say he called Morgan or Gaston over to relay whatever it was that he wanted but that seems to have changed now, just speaks to anyone near when he's got something to say.

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Apparently he's just had a contract extension, don't know to when that takes him though, probably long enough to speak to us in english which i know for a fact he can do perfectly well. I see it more as a job creation scheme in the provinces.

 

Whoa, big news being over-looked alert!

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Re-read what Gemmel originally wrote... he is referring to a friend of his, who met MP and his son. Nothing to do with the interpreter.

 

I don't think I've seem MoPo without his interpreter. I can only deduce that the interpreter follows him around absolutely everywhere he goes - Interviews, training ground, the supermarket, at home with Mrs MoPo etc...

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That's the trouble with the modern generation, they want everything handed to them on a plate. He's taken us to 3rd in the PL FFS. It's not a case of when will he speak English, it's how quickly can we all learn Spanish. ;)

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He wants to avoid the sort of scenario summed up beautifully here:-

 

 

Alternatively, his interpreter who is a personal friend of his has a work visa to assist Pochettino here and needs to be here 2 years to qualify for indefinite leave to remain, so still some time to go before he reaches that stage.

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I think it's an excellent way of preventing the media twisting his words.

 

He's clearly more than capable of communicating with the players to get his message across, and that's all that matters.

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He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football.

 

I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster.

 

We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke.

 

Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage.

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He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football.

 

I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster.

 

We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke.

 

Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage.

 

Erm, have we gone back in time to January here?

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He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football.

 

I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster.

 

We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke.

 

Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage.

 

Contrary to widely held opinion I'm not sure that MPo was actually sacked by Espanyol, I think it was more of a mutual thing, they didn't like the results, he didn't like the financial situation and they agreed to go their separate ways. Mutual consent but I guess that means sacked to most.

Posted
He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football.

 

I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster.

 

We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke.

 

Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage.

 

I am confused - you appear to be ignoring numerous media reports and eye-witness accounts in the stadium of Pochettino speaking English, as well as not having looked at a League table for about 6 months? Talk about holding an agenda and ignoring the facts.

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Well he's certainly not an unmitigated disaster. He *could* theoretically fail from now on, but that would seem unlikely, and arguably we already ARE at the next stage, it's just a question of keeping us there.

 

Or is GM just going fishing for a bite?

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I am confused - you appear to be ignoring numerous media reports and eye-witness accounts in the stadium of Pochettino speaking English, as well as not having looked at a League table for about 6 months? Talk about holding an agenda and ignoring the facts.

 

I think GM is reminding us of what he said on or abouts the 18th January 2013. He was definitely one of the 31 (or was it 37)

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I think GM is reminding us of what he said on or abouts the 18th January 2013. He was definitely one of the 31 (or was it 37)

 

He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football.

 

I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster.

 

We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke.

 

Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage.

 

© Windbag Publications

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I think GM is reminding us of what he said on or abouts the 18th January 2013. He was definitely one of the 31 (or was it 37)

 

It certainly seemed like a callback to before we knew anything. Pointless then. Not sure what the 31/37 you're referring to is? *EDIT - "enlightened" now.

 

Ah, I see above it's a quoting of Wes Tender. Why you'd post that without the context God only knows.

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:rolleyes:

 

I'll see if I can find the thread then

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&highlight=Adkins#.UoIobnBdCSo

 

So the "enlightened ones":rolleyes: actually numbered 45.

 

The question says "is sacking Adkins TODAY the correct decision?" - even taking out the context of Pochettino's success, who's to say it wouldn't have been better sacking Adkins after the Everton game (which we drew) or before the Chelsea game (which we also didn't win)? There's more to that question than just "should Saints have sacked Adkins", it was also about the timing - and a lot of people would also argue that it was a dubious reward for a very good job.

 

There are also plenty of other reasons that it was "wrong" or handled wrongly irrespective of future success.

 

In short, you can say sacking Adkins was wrong without saying appointing Pochettino was wrong too.

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wouldn't need translating on here

 

Strangely aren't Mongolia one of the few nations not to enter the FIFA world cup ? They were at one time, don't know if they do now, don't even know if they've got a team.

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The question says "is sacking Adkins TODAY the correct decision" - even taking out the context of Pochettino's success, who's to say it wouldn't have been better sacking Adkins after the Everton game (which we drew) or before the Chelsea game (which we also didn't win)?

 

Semantics, the question was do you think Adkins should have been sacked at all. The answer was yes, he'd taken us as far as he could and he f*cked up the GK job which was costing us points by the shedload, but let's not go there, we can start it all up again in General Sports when(if) he gets sacked by Reading.

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