Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Been here almost a year - when do you think he will start doing interviews by himself and in English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Is it that big a deal? He clearly has no problem getting across what he is trying to achieve to the players. Surely that's the most important thing? Unless you really want some 'Arry style car-window type interviews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldbarbarian Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I couldnt care less, he is clearly getting his message across to the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 It's not a big deal... it would be *nice* if only for the fans, to hear things directly from him because something is always lost in translation, but I don't think many (if any) fans really care that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 When we go top of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 on his terms, and only if he wants to. TV 'Experts' missed the point entirely and mocked his appointment as a massive mistake, highlighting that he can't even speak to the players. They seem to be confused by someone who speaks a 2nd language but who doesn't wish to be grilled in that 2nd language, leading to misunderstandings and damaging headlines. I suspect that he sees the likes of Mourinho spouting rubbish every week like a circus clown and considers a more measured approach as the most constructive approach for a proper club that doesn't do it's deals via the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Couldn't care less as long as our success continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I was never convinced with the "He can actually speak English" argument, until I heard from a friend outside of Football, who met him (And his Son) and apparently he can. Perfectly coherent conversation.......So this is just his way of protecting himself and don't think you will find many Saints fans who want to argue with any of his decisions so far, so no issue with it from this end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Until he feels he can express himself well enough in English he'll no doubt continue to get his message across using his interpreter. A sensible precaution against a predatory media who already use their own interpretation of English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Apparently he's just had a contract extension, don't know to when that takes him though, probably long enough to speak to us in english which i know for a fact he can do perfectly well. I see it more as a job creation scheme in the provinces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Apparently he's just had a contract extension, don't know to when that takes him though, probably long enough to speak to us in english which i know for a fact he can do perfectly well. I see it more as a job creation scheme in the provinces. If he can speak English "Perfect" then why is the club wasting money on a full time translator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I was never convinced with the "He can actually speak English" argument, until I heard from a friend outside of Football, who met him (And his Son) and apparently he can. Perfectly coherent conversation.......So this is just his way of protecting himself and don't think you will find many Saints fans who want to argue with any of his decisions so far, so no issue with it from this end. Erm, that's not his son, that's his interpretor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 If he can speak English "Perfect" then why is the club wasting money on a full time translator? Like I said, job creation scheme in the provinces. MPo could speak to the press "perfectly well" but whether he's got the vocabulary for discussions within some of the administrative aspects of his job I couldn't say. I have heard him speak in English when he was at PSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 It's not a big deal... it would be *nice* if only for the fans, to hear things directly from him because something is always lost in translation, but I don't think many (if any) fans really care that much. I don't think it is - whenever the interpreter says something Pochettino wants re-framed he interrupts. He understands English well enough to do that so I don't think much is getting lost in translation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 (edited) Frankly he can speak Swahili in interviews for all I care. The structure is working and it is preventing him by being misconstrued by having that barrier between him and the journalists. I doubt we will see him speak English in interviews. Edited 12 November, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Like I said, job creation scheme in the provinces. MPo could speak to the press "perfectly well" but whether he's got the vocabulary for discussions within some of the administrative aspects of his job I couldn't say. I have heard him speak in English when he was at PSG. So back to the OP when do you think he will start doing interviews by himself and in English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Erm, that's not his son, that's his interpretor. Errr. No, It was Mo Po and his son..... No interpretor in sight.... As I said this was outside of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 So back to the OP when do you think he will start doing interviews by himself and in English Saturday December 7th, about 5pm just after the Man City game. Is that good enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Errr. No, It was Mo Po and his son..... No interpretor in sight.... As I said this was outside of football. The little guy who is always next to him is his interpretor, not his son. Whether he is "inside" or "outside" of football, the relationship remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I don't think it is - whenever the interpreter says something Pochettino wants re-framed he interrupts. He understands English well enough to do that so I don't think much is getting lost in translation at all. I didn't mean anything significant - just understanding a little more of his sense of humour, or the emphasis he might put on certain words - it can make a difference sometimes and all helps us understand a little more about the man and how he does things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 The little guy who is always next to him is his interpretor, not his son. Whether he is "inside" or "outside" of football, the relationship remains the same. Re-read what Gemmel originally wrote... he is referring to a friend of his, who met MP and his son. Nothing to do with the interpreter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Re-read what Gemmel originally wrote... he is referring to a friend of his, who met MP and his son. Nothing to do with the interpreter. whoooooosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Is it that big a deal? He clearly has no problem getting across what he is trying to achieve to the players. Surely that's the most important thing? Unless you really want some 'Arry style car-window type interviews? Exactly this. You'd be amazed how many people I know who get annoyed by his inability or reluctance to talk in english. I couldn't give a toss tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Exactly this. You'd be amazed how many people I know who get annoyed by his inability or reluctance to talk in english. I couldn't give a toss tbh. I'm sure that those who sit near the dug outs (if you can still call them that) must hear him speaking to the players. Seems that a sub never goes onto the pitch without getting specific instructions from MPo just beforehand. They can't all speak Spanish and French so you'd presume that the wise words are given in English. It's true that at the beginning if he had something important to say he called Morgan or Gaston over to relay whatever it was that he wanted but that seems to have changed now, just speaks to anyone near when he's got something to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Apparently he's just had a contract extension, don't know to when that takes him though, probably long enough to speak to us in english which i know for a fact he can do perfectly well. I see it more as a job creation scheme in the provinces. Whoa, big news being over-looked alert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 The sooner the better... if MP speaks good English there is no excuse for continuing the interpreter routine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Re-read what Gemmel originally wrote... he is referring to a friend of his, who met MP and his son. Nothing to do with the interpreter. I don't think I've seem MoPo without his interpreter. I can only deduce that the interpreter follows him around absolutely everywhere he goes - Interviews, training ground, the supermarket, at home with Mrs MoPo etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 That's the trouble with the modern generation, they want everything handed to them on a plate. He's taken us to 3rd in the PL FFS. It's not a case of when will he speak English, it's how quickly can we all learn Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He wants to avoid the sort of scenario summed up beautifully here:- Alternatively, his interpreter who is a personal friend of his has a work visa to assist Pochettino here and needs to be here 2 years to qualify for indefinite leave to remain, so still some time to go before he reaches that stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I think it's an excellent way of preventing the media twisting his words. He's clearly more than capable of communicating with the players to get his message across, and that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He can speak Mongolian for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football. I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster. We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke. Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football. I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster. We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke. Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage. Erm, have we gone back in time to January here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football. I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster. We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke. Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage. Contrary to widely held opinion I'm not sure that MPo was actually sacked by Espanyol, I think it was more of a mutual thing, they didn't like the results, he didn't like the financial situation and they agreed to go their separate ways. Mutual consent but I guess that means sacked to most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football. I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster. We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke. Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage. I am confused - you appear to be ignoring numerous media reports and eye-witness accounts in the stadium of Pochettino speaking English, as well as not having looked at a League table for about 6 months? Talk about holding an agenda and ignoring the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Well he's certainly not an unmitigated disaster. He *could* theoretically fail from now on, but that would seem unlikely, and arguably we already ARE at the next stage, it's just a question of keeping us there. Or is GM just going fishing for a bite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I am confused - you appear to be ignoring numerous media reports and eye-witness accounts in the stadium of Pochettino speaking English, as well as not having looked at a League table for about 6 months? Talk about holding an agenda and ignoring the facts. I think GM is reminding us of what he said on or abouts the 18th January 2013. He was definitely one of the 31 (or was it 37) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He can speak Mongolian for all I care. From where I sit in the Itchen we can hear him holler in ENGLISH to the players.Last Saturday against Hull he was certainly vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I think GM is reminding us of what he said on or abouts the 18th January 2013. He was definitely one of the 31 (or was it 37) I think they should be named. Even until early season people were really criticising him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Not speaking coherent English didn't stop Fergie doing interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I think they should be named. Even until early season people were really criticising him. I'll see if I can find the thread then http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&highlight=Adkins#.UoIobnBdCSo So the "enlightened ones":rolleyes: actually numbered 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Maybe he's persisting with the interpreter to see how many people get annoyed by something so inconsequential... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 I think GM is reminding us of what he said on or abouts the 18th January 2013. He was definitely one of the 31 (or was it 37) He doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football. I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster. We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke. Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage. © Windbag Publications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Apparently he's just had a contract extension Pochettino or the interpreter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 (edited) I think GM is reminding us of what he said on or abouts the 18th January 2013. He was definitely one of the 31 (or was it 37) It certainly seemed like a callback to before we knew anything. Pointless then. Not sure what the 31/37 you're referring to is? *EDIT - "enlightened" now. Ah, I see above it's a quoting of Wes Tender. Why you'd post that without the context God only knows. Edited 12 November, 2013 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 Pochettino or the interpreter? tempted to say both, that would nargue (or do you spell that nark) a few for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 He can speak Mongolian for all I care. wouldn't need translating on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 (edited) I'll see if I can find the thread then http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&highlight=Adkins#.UoIobnBdCSo So the "enlightened ones":rolleyes: actually numbered 45. The question says "is sacking Adkins TODAY the correct decision?" - even taking out the context of Pochettino's success, who's to say it wouldn't have been better sacking Adkins after the Everton game (which we drew) or before the Chelsea game (which we also didn't win)? There's more to that question than just "should Saints have sacked Adkins", it was also about the timing - and a lot of people would also argue that it was a dubious reward for a very good job. There are also plenty of other reasons that it was "wrong" or handled wrongly irrespective of future success. In short, you can say sacking Adkins was wrong without saying appointing Pochettino was wrong too. Edited 12 November, 2013 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 wouldn't need translating on here Strangely aren't Mongolia one of the few nations not to enter the FIFA world cup ? They were at one time, don't know if they do now, don't even know if they've got a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 November, 2013 Share Posted 12 November, 2013 The question says "is sacking Adkins TODAY the correct decision" - even taking out the context of Pochettino's success, who's to say it wouldn't have been better sacking Adkins after the Everton game (which we drew) or before the Chelsea game (which we also didn't win)? Semantics, the question was do you think Adkins should have been sacked at all. The answer was yes, he'd taken us as far as he could and he f*cked up the GK job which was costing us points by the shedload, but let's not go there, we can start it all up again in General Sports when(if) he gets sacked by Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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