Fitzhugh Fella Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 My point is more disagreeing with the greedy sign anyone panic buys post I quoted. Guly isn't the only back up to Lambert is he? We saw Gallagher do very well against the 3rd and 4th best CBs (after Lovren & Fonte ). On the night the only criticism I had was the miss - but happens to best and now, having seen it on TV not as bad as I thought. You say, what if Lambert's injury reoccurs and Gallagher has a bad run - would suggest as likely, if not more, that if we sign an Italian star he won't click straight away. Also, with the way formations/ tactics change their are other options. If we put Cork/ Wanyama as DM we then have four more attacking players and to choose from Schneiderlin, JWP, Davis, Lallana, JayRod, Guly, Lambert, Gallagher, Isgrove - Chelsea do ok without scoring CFs! I'm not saying never sign a player, or ignore opportunities this window if right player available just we shouldn't panic and what's the worst that will happen if we don't? Tuesday wasn't a fluke and showed we have quality within. Hopefully Lovren and Ramirez will be back in a few weeks. Still don't think, after Fonte's interview, Osvaldo's tweets that Osvaldo 100% gone. Radio reporting Puncheon signed for Palace. Finally, think it is sad that fans have the lack of passion/ enjoyment / excitement that people such as Fitzfella showed on Tuesday with negative comments about Gallagher starting. Each to their own but I still get excited about seeing a new prospect start. I think that unfair criticism. I just didn't think he would be up to leading the line against the best team (ish) in the country. However I was quite pleasantly surprised and thought that miss was not as bad as it looked as not only did the ball come quickly it came across him and his timing had to be 100%. Don't get me wrong I am all for youngsters coming through and would prefer him to Do Prado but I remember a young full back we had called Phil Warner who got ripped to shreds by a rampant Overmars at Highbury and never played in the Premiership again. He needs to be nurtured and not relied upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Osvaldo is now in Turin according to Twitter Which Twitter account? Can range from a journalist, the player himself to a random person anywhere in the world. Max @Talk_Futbol Southampton's Dani Osvaldo has just landed in Turin to start the first part of his medical at Juventus. Fee agreed. #saintsfc #Juventus So it was the latter of those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 So it was the latter of those three. Retweeded #whocares #goodriddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 FabRomano21: Southampton ready to accept Juventus bid for Pablo Daniel Osvaldo on loan with buy option of €20M in next minutes #saintsfc #SFC Works for Di Marzio before Le God asks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgianlucadimarzio.com%2Fsenza-categoria%2Fjuventus-osvaldo-a-un-passo-i-dettagli%2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 From a Juve fan on Twitter: Hashim0307: Osvaldo done!!! Hashim0307: It has been confirmed by @dimarzio that Pablo Daniel Osvaldo is "practically a Juve player". He arrives in Italy tomorrow. Hashim0307: Loan with option to buy for €20 mill. Ouch. Hashim0307: The good thing is that there is no obligation to buy. In June, Juve can negotiate Osvaldo's price, but keep in mind he is likely to go to WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 tancredipalmeri: Che colpaccio la Juve con Osvaldo. Stanno dando le piste a tutti tancredipalmeri: Intendiamoci, l'ultima cosa che serve alla Juventus è Osvaldo. Ma è comunque meglio di quasi tutti gli acquisti fatti dalle altre finora tancredipalmeri: What a coup Juve with Osvaldo. They're giving all the tracks tancredipalmeri: Mind you, the last thing you need to Juventus is Osvaldo. But it's still better than almost all purchases made by the other so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league-news/39411-southampton-saints-keep-tabs-on-ligue-1-striker.php Is there anything in this, or it it the usual idle speculation or agent talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 tancredipalmeri: What a coup Juve with Osvaldo. They're giving all the tracks They won't be saying that when Osvaldo and Tevez go toe to toe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 From a Juve fan on Twitter: Hashim0307: Osvaldo done!!! Hashim0307: It has been confirmed by @dimarzio that Pablo Daniel Osvaldo is "practically a Juve player". He arrives in Italy tomorrow. Hashim0307: Loan with option to buy for €20 mill. Ouch. Hashim0307: The good thing is that there is no obligation to buy. In June, Juve can negotiate Osvaldo's price, but keep in mind he is likely to go to WC So based on that, €20m is the max we could get for him in the summer, but could go lower depending on market forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 mmm, the 20m option was a great deal but if there is no option and he either headbuuts another teammate, goes to the WC and has a nightmare, breaks his leg, whatever, he's back here in the summer one things for sure, club must have been pretty desperate to get rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 (edited) Di Marzio says the bonuses we get for the loan make us up financially this season re Osvaldo. Bearing in mind we have probably only paid a few installments we will probably not lose much on him. http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/osvaldo-on-verge-of-joining-juve-the-details/ Edited 30 January, 2014 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Di Marzio says the bonuses we get for the loan make us up financially this season re Osvaldo. Bearing in mind we have probably only paid a few installments we will probably not lose much on him. Good move in that sense. Maybe we can try and sign a decent £15m striker this summer? 2nd time lucky and all that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 What a disappointing end to what could have been great,Osvaldo gone. thing is I have never detested a Southampton player so much.....for letting the club down,putting us in a difficult position...needing a replacement. And the most galling...he has got what he wanted...a move with a bumper pay packet too,I suspect. any replacement will just smack of desperation. i hope his career goes down the pan.. yes i I am very bitter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 What a disappointing end to what could have been great,Osvaldo gone. thing is I have never detested a Southampton player so much.....for letting the club down,putting us in a difficult position...needing a replacement. And the most galling...he has got what he wanted...a move with a bumper pay packet too,I suspect. any replacement will just smack of desperation. i hope his career goes down the pan.. yes i I am very bitter.. What irritates me the most out of all of this...is as you said....he acts like a total ****** and gets a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world football. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 What a disappointing end to what could have been great,Osvaldo gone. thing is I have never detested a Southampton player so much.....for letting the club down,putting us in a difficult position...needing a replacement. And the most galling...he has got what he wanted...a move with a bumper pay packet too,I suspect. any replacement will just smack of desperation. i hope his career goes down the pan.. yes i I am very bitter.. What can you expect, he probably came for the project and the project is gone, at least for this season, been playing up ever since he found out Cortese was going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Di Marzio says the bonuses we get for the loan make us up financially this season re Osvaldo. Bearing in mind we have probably only paid a few installments we will probably not lose much on him. http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/osvaldo-on-verge-of-joining-juve-the-details/ That's good to hear although i thought we paid a lot up front? maybe we didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 What can you expect, he probably came for the project and the project is gone, at least for this season, been playing up ever since he found out Cortese was going. Don't think that has anything to do with it what so ever. There was a training ground confrontation during Christmas as well, which is why he mysteriously disappeared for a few weeks - only to then be followed by the FA Suspension. No idea who was involved, but I'm ITK on that one - it was a club cover up at the time to say he had an injury. He could have got himself Red carded against villa too. The fact of the matter is that the bloke is a mentalist, he is a time bomb and can explode at any time with anyone. It doesn't matter if the chairman had left or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 That's good to hear although i thought we paid a lot up front? maybe we didnt I don't think any transfers are ever paid up front (Unless you're PSG or Man City that is!). There will always be an instalment plan, with added bonuses for achievements in terms of apps/goals/international honours etc. For e.g - Mata wouldn't have cost an outright £37m, that would have been a structured deal over a period of say 18-24months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Apparently Swansea were trying to buy Jack Cork for 2 million £, ridiculously low amount really, can't be right, anyway nulle prosequi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Not sure if this has been posted, but a good summary from the pres-conf, by our good friend connor armstrong Pochettino on Dani Osvaldo: "At the moment there is no news regarding Dani Osvaldo. But as I said before, there's still a day and a half left. There are many things that could happen in that time. It is something that the club will evaluate, if it does indeed happen. Anything is possible." Pochettino on Jack Cork: "Jack Cork is a very important player for us and there is no possibility of him leaving the club." Pochettino on incomings: "What I am saying is right now, signing someone who fits the profile of the player we are looking for is not easy." Pochettino on deadline day: "I am very calm. We are fully aware that there is one day left. That in football is a very long time." Pochettino on Danny Fox's departure: “I want to make public my gratitude to Danny Fox for his amazing professionalism during my time here and his great qualities as a player and a person. Matt Targett is going to train with us, and he has a chance of getting in the side if he performs at the level we look for.” Pochettino on the Saints squad: "We have the tranquillity and calm to know that our squad is good enough, and there will not be many ins and outs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 FabRomano21: Southampton ready to accept Juventus bid for Pablo Daniel Osvaldo on loan with buy option of €20M in next minutes #saintsfc #SFC Works for Di Marzio before Le God asks. Of course, the "buy option" at the end of the season does NOT mean that he WILL be transferred. That is the Achilles heel of Loan deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 (edited) INGS to Southampton. Burnley in for 2 strikers http://trendsmap.com/topic/@talk_futbol Max @Talk_Futbol 2h Last piece of transfer news; Burnley FC have in the last hour approached two strikers, as one of their own looks to be heading to a BPL club Edited 30 January, 2014 by ART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Of course, the "buy option" at the end of the season does NOT mean that he WILL be transferred. That is the Achilles heel of Loan deals It's a worry. If he decides he isn't happy there and hits another team mate then we are stuck paying his wages again and probably no one will want to take him off our hands. Hope it works out there for him so we can get our money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 What irritates me the most out of all of this...is as you said....he acts like a total ****** and gets a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world football. Go figure. This was posted on Twitter not sure if correct but wow: Pablo Osvaldo has been in 8 different teams (Juventus 9th) in last 9 years but never reached 50 starts for any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Will be pleased to see the back of that psycho ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I don't think any transfers are ever paid up front (Unless you're PSG or Man City that is!). There will always be an instalment plan, with added bonuses for achievements in terms of apps/goals/international honours etc. For e.g - Mata wouldn't have cost an outright £37m, that would have been a structured deal over a period of say 18-24months. Thanks for the example. It certainly helped me understand that complicated theory you've put forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Thanks for the example. It certainly helped me understand that complicated theory you've put forward. We have a lot of kids on this board, so I have to be careful and tailor my posts for them to understand. They do still struggle though, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 (edited) What can you expect, he probably came for the project and the project is gone, at least for this season, been playing up ever since he found out Cortese was going. He has been 'playing up' since he got here, could have been sent off against Sunderland and Villa at home, missing games here and there. Story of his career. Not sure how much game time he'll get at Juve or how he'll react to being on the bench. Edited 30 January, 2014 by Sour Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 What irritates me the most out of all of this...is as you said....he acts like a total ****** and gets a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world football. Go figure. Yes but he may have f-d up his chances of giong to Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 INGS to Southampton. Burnley in for 2 strikers http://trendsmap.com/topic/@talk_futbol Max @Talk_Futbol 2h Last piece of transfer news; Burnley FC have in the last hour approached two strikers, as one of their own looks to be heading to a BPL club God I hope not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Yes but he may have f-d up his chances of giong to Brazil He won't. He is about to sign for the best team in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Talk sport mentioned we've gone in for Spurs Holtby.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Talk sport mentioned we've gone in for Spurs Holtby.. Talksport got that wrong it came from Poch press conf saying he had signed for Fulham - he hasnt yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Talk sport mentioned we've gone in for Spurs Holtby.. He's possibly going to Fulham, not us. Talk Sport is the last place I'd look for any gossip to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Talk sport mentioned we've gone in for Spurs Holtby.. In his press conference, MP seemed to think he had gone to Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi7s Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 if we get 20m euros either now or in the summer it would make the whole dani osvaldo saga a bit more palatable. yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Burnley would be mad to sell Danny Ings now - he could be the man whose goals get them promoted to the Premier League and that is worth far more than anyone will pay them for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Burnley will not sell Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Ings fits the player profile for us a lot better than some of the other potential strikers, I'd be happy with him coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Burnley would be mad to sell Danny Ings now - he could be the man whose goals get them promoted to the Premier League and that is worth far more than anyone will pay them for him Yep, would be a real Huddersfield/Marcus Stewart moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I heard Holtby as bait to Fulham as Spuds want Berbatov back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Ings fits the player profile for us a lot better than some of the other potential strikers, I'd be happy with him coming here I like the idea, Jay Rod is making the grade with us. I think we could get Ings to make it also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Wonder how MoPo knew about Holtby when it's not been reported anywhere. Did we enquire I wonder?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Before the window I think most agreed our squad lacked depth. We have told the players not in our squad and sold a couple of fringe players. While this season is safe, there is still the FA cup to win. Have we trimmed the squad to save a bit of cash and to give the kids a chance while no real pressure? Or were we just clearing the decks before signing someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 (edited) Before the window I think most agreed our squad lacked depth. We have told the players not in our squad and sold a couple of fringe players. While this season is safe, there is still the FA cup to win. Have we trimmed the squad to save a bit of cash and to give the kids a chance while no real pressure? Or were we just clearing the decks before signing someone? Since the summer we have sold, released or loaned 21 players. We have signed just 3 Osvaldo TBC Danny Fox Aaron Martin Lee Barnard Tadanari Lee Fraser Colmer Billy Sharp Emmanuel Mayuka Dean Hammond Danny Butterfield Jason Puncheon Tommy Forecast Frazer Richardson Steve de Ridder Ryan Dickson Danny Seaborne Richard Chaplow Ben Reeves Vegard Forren Alberto Seidi Sam Hoskins Edited 30 January, 2014 by Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Burnley will not sell Ings Dyche said the same earlier plus they'd had no offers for Ings, however I'd be amazed if Harry wasn't on the phone doing hid deadline day specials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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