Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Liverpool Echo suggesting Everton will bid for Jay Rodriguez after Lukaku's injury last night. Return to the NW may possible attract JR would Everton be able to improve upon Jay's wages or be a more attractive long term prospect Would leave us very short of experienced strikers IF it happens Can't see why that would be, they've just signed an 8ft striker on loan from Monaco, they've got all the strikers they need.
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Liverpool Echo suggesting Everton will bid for Jay Rodriguez after Lukaku's injury last night. Return to the NW may possible attract JR would Everton be able to improve upon Jay's wages or be a more attractive long term prospect Would leave us very short of experienced strikers IF it happens They simply have no chance. He'd cost around £10m, they don't have that sort of money spare. They may get a loan in.
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Can't see why that would be, they've just signed an 8ft striker on loan from Monaco, they've got all the strikers they need. Lukaku and Kone out for the season.
Appy Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 They simply have no chance. He'd cost around £10m, they don't have that sort of money spare. They may get a loan in. They signed that Traore on loan didn't they?
pangy Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Vucinc, Luis Muriel, Eder...Astori, Vela......all been linked over the last week or 2 Mirko Vucinic is looking the most likely going on the reports and the origins of the reports. This is all twitter/net rumours though right? has anyone ITK posted anything concrete?
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 They signed that Traore on loan didn't they? Yep.
Sour Mash Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Vucinc, Luis Muriel, Eder...Astori, Vela......all been linked over the last week or 2 Mirko Vucinic is looking the most likely going on the reports and the origins of the reports. None of them seem all that likely to me. In the past we've had pretty concrete speculation leading up to a deal being done, with the exception of Boruc and Lovren.
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 This is all twitter/net rumours though right? has anyone ITK posted anything concrete? Nope, although I'd say that some of the journo's mentioning it are pretty coveted and knowledgeable of Italian football.
pangy Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Isnt the ITK a myth though? I never pay attention to names of posters but I am pretty sure there is one or two who are ITK,they just don't let you know every week like some of the others who claim to be
buctootim Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 None of them seem all that likely to me. In the past we've had pretty concrete speculation leading up to a deal being done, with the exception of Boruc and Lovren. But normally deals are weeks or months in the making, so more people get to know and leak. I guess this one is being rushed through in days because of the unexpected Osvaldo situation.
shurlock Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 But normally deals are weeks or months in the making, so more people get to know and leak. I guess this one is being rushed through in days because of the unexpected Osvaldo situation. Yep my take as well. And in Osvaldo's case as much determined by other teams demands as our own.
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 It could be that we're just trying to accelerate something we've been planning for next summer though due to the changed situation.
maxi_sopez Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Vucinic would be an incredible signing. top player. But where is the rumour coming from? Haven't seen a source yet? Are people just getting it from twitter?
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Vucinic would be an incredible signing. top player. But where is the rumour coming from? Haven't seen a source yet? Are people just getting it from twitter? no it comes from Italain sources. Juve want shot of Vucinic and want the new available Osvaldo so a swap is being projected.
Big Bad Bob Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Vucinic would be an incredible signing. top player. But where is the rumour coming from? Haven't seen a source yet? Are people just getting it from twitter? Inter Milan News @InterMilanNow 24m Southampton ask Juventus for Vucinic in Osvaldo talks - Southampton are interested in Juventus striker Mirko Vu... http://ow.ly/2DmxuT Twitter is the place to be to be ITK
SuperSAINT Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Christ. Never expected that. Vucinic is top quality. 2 years older and won't have much resale value but if we'd paid £13m in the summer for him I'd have been ecstatic. Couple of seasons of a top quality forward is worth it. Hope that happens. I agree - I imagine it'll be a loan exchange to start with?
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Sums up your intelligence. Top clubs haven't signed him for not good enough. There's no gap between the elite forwards of the world and someone who could improve Saints. Sums up that he's a whinging, provocative, little englander. Juventus is a top club.
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 I'd rather have Ings, Vucinic's record at actually putting the ball in the net isn't great.
Saint Charlie Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 The more reputable Italian sources have suggested a Vucinic/Osvaldo swap is unlikely. As linked to further up this thread but conveniently ignored by many. Personally Im not expecting a big name.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 (edited) I'd rather have Ings, Vucinic's record at actually putting the ball in the net isn't great. Vucinic is attempting to put the ball in the net of a goal defended by top flight players in Italy where as Ings is doing it in the Championship. I'm not dismissing Ings as he does look promising, but you can't really draw comparisons on goal record. Vucinic is an established player (although now out of favour) at one of Europe's top clubs and in a better league than Ings. Edited 29 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God
Saint86 Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Sums up your intelligence. Top clubs haven't signed him for not good enough. There's no gap between the elite forwards of the world and someone who could improve Saints. Please stop quoting Barry.
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 I'd rather have Ings, Vucinic's record at actually putting the ball in the net isn't great. Once again another little englander who can't tell the difference between an efficient striker in a top european league and a second division hotshot. We'll not sign either of them as likely as not so it's academic anyway.
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Vucinic is attempting to put the ball in the net of a goal defended by top flight players in Italy. And he'd be attempting to do it against top flight players in England.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 And he'd be attempting to do it against top flight players in England. Something the player you suggested hasn't done at all (yet) and is completely unproven at a high level. You don't become Juventus' number 9 without having something about you.
SO16_Saint Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 (edited) Vucinic is training in isolation until the end of the transfer window.....according to Sky Sports. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9139334/transfer-news-talks-over-the-future-of-juventus-mirko-vucinic-continue Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Edited 29 January, 2014 by SO16_Saint
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Once again another little englander who can't tell the difference between an efficient striker in a top european league and a second division hotshot. We'll not sign either of them as likely as not so it's academic anyway. Our team is built around young players with something to prove and always will be.
Sour Mash Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Christ. Never expected that. Vucinic is top quality. 2 years older and won't have much resale value but if we'd paid £13m in the summer for him I'd have been ecstatic. Couple of seasons of a top quality forward is worth it. Hope that happens. I'm not sure what his sources are, but the author doesn't look particularly ITK?
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Something the player you suggested hasn't done at all (yet) and is completely unproven at a high level. You don't become Juventus' number 9 without having something about you. It's better to sign someone unproven then proven to be mediocre.
buctootim Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 I'm not sure what his sources are, but the author doesn't look particularly ITK? No, buts its an interesting idea if the Inter deal for Vucinic really has broken down.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 It's better to sign someone unproven then proven to be mediocre. If he has been "proven to be mediocre", why is he wearing the number 9 shirt of one of Europe's biggest clubs?
buctootim Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 I agree but we're talking about someone who is very good so it's not relevant. He'd be great as loan till the summer. I really cant see a 30 year old striker fitting in with our movement and pressing game long term though. He'd become another SRL.
SO16_Saint Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2014/01/29/4578762/vucinic-set-for-juventus-exit love the comment from Sartre Lalaland... Great news! Vucinic was a mistake from day 1, lazy, unprofessional whiner who tinks himself as somekinda superstar. Unfortunetly there are hot rumours about Osvaldo who is similar piece of bull dung.
Sour Mash Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 No, buts its an interesting idea if the Inter deal for Vucinic really has broken down. It is an interesting idea. I'm just saying there is nothing to sugest this is particularly likely to happen based on the reports so far.
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 I agree but we're talking about someone who is very good so it's not relevant. It'd be a garbage signing, everyone needs to stop getting so carried away about how good these players are compared to how good our team actually is. We're a top half premiership team now, yet every time we're linked with anyone remotely well known they're somehow out of our league and amazing.
Big Bad Bob Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 It's better to sign someone unproven then proven to be mediocre. Ings has scored 16 of his 22 goals for Burnley in the last 25 games, good return but it's very one seasonist. Look what happened with Andy Carrol. Are there any one season wonders that have made it in the premiership, Dean Ashton? That Preston bloke who played for Pompey??
buctootim Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 It'd be a garbage signing, everyone needs to stop getting so carried away about how good these players are compared to how good our team actually is. We're a top half premiership team now, yet every time we're linked with anyone remotely well known they're somehow out of our league and amazing. We cant go the rest of the season with what have; we need a signing and we need to get rid of Osvaldo - all the space of a few days. If we sign someone half decent on a rest of season loan and sort out the longer term at leisure in the summer that would be great business imo.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 January, 2014 Author Posted 29 January, 2014 It'd be a garbage signing, everyone needs to stop getting so carried away about how good these players are compared to how good our team actually is. We're a top half premiership team now, yet every time we're linked with anyone remotely well known they're somehow out of our league and amazing. In typical SWF style some will get carried away as the guy plays for Juventus "must therefore be good" Like you say his goal scoring record is modest and his all round game for me is fairly average. His age + the fact that he doesn’t want to move are also unavoidable downsides. I watch a lot of Italian football so consider myself qualified to comment - there are pros and cons for Vucinic, but given our style of play and his qualities I simply don’t see this as a match. and for the quoted £13 million A loan for Stevan Jovetić or The little pea would be amazing - Vucinic would be more meh.
shurlock Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 In typical SWF style some will get carried away as the guy plays for Juventus "must therefore be good" Like you say his goal scoring record is modest and his all round game for me is fairly average. His age + the fact that he doesn’t want to move are also unavoidable downsides. I watch a lot of Italian football so consider myself qualified to comment - there are pros and cons for Vucinic, but given our style of play and his qualities I simply don’t see this as a match. and for the quoted £13 million A loan for Stevan Jovetić or The little pea would be amazing - Vucinic would be more meh. Whats the word on the street, pal?
Bewildered Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Alfredo Pedullà @AlfredoPedulla 1 m Osvaldo-Juve: hours hot, decision likely by late afternoon. There is also the Valencia No mention of a swap though.
Webby Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 I just watched that... loved the surprise at the end with MP breaking into English! It seemed to take everyone by surprise lol! I love the fact he's keeping his mate in a job... doing it his way! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAybp_cgvPQ I reckon we're signing the ivory coast striker Oke koky. #inout
sydneysaint17 Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Just spoken to a friend at the club. Expect movement by this evening if all goes well apparently!
Jai27 Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 What happened with the Diego thing in the end by the way?
beavis17 Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Just spoken to a friend at the club. Expect movement by this evening if all goes well apparently! In or out?
sydneysaint17 Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 In or out? Didnt say! Sounded like if not today then definitely tomorrow
Webby Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Just spoken to a friend at the club. Expect movement by this evening if all goes well apparently! That's some dump that is.
pangy Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 Jovetic on loan would be quality imo,doesn't get a kick at City and is 4th choice would fit in to the way we play with ease I would imagine.
Saint Charlie Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 No mention of a swap though. http://www.alfredopedulla.com/articoli/37443-esclusiva-osvaldo-juve-ore-calde-la-situazione Further update and again no mention of a swap.
Bewildered Posted 29 January, 2014 Posted 29 January, 2014 http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alfredopedulla.com%2Farticoli%2F37443-esclusiva_osvaldo_juve_ore_calde_la_situazione Are hot for the future hours of Pablo Daniel Osvaldo. An intermediary is in England to assess the possibility of a costly loan, with repayment guaranteed. The Southampton opened, Juve hopes to be ready in the event of the transfer of at least one of Vucinic and Quagliarella. The opportunities are there and can materialize in the late afternoon. There are other clubs that push, especially Valencia, but the Juve remains abundantly. Seems Juve are negotiating a loan for Osvaldo, but it will only go through if Vucinic or Quagliarella are moved on.
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