Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Shocker today, but good season and still young Go easy on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 I think Artur will being having a few words - he clearly indicated that Vic should pass the ball square to the right back position but instead he turned into trouble. Probably nothing more than youthful over-confidence; he should learn from this, and at least it didn't affect the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Bad decision there, as was the one by Boruc to give him the ball there when they had 4 on 2. Lets hope lessons are learned when it didnt matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Saint Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Shocker today, but good season and still young Go easy on him Agreed. Hes been immense and was just a tad to casual today. I still think hes been great for us. I think we missed him at points after he was subbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Thought his first half was good. Seemed absent in the second. Goal was a silly lapse of concentration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Dont think his head was in the game after we went a couple up, his touch/passes were a bit sloppy, and then after the mistake for the goal he didnt really seem to put much effort into pressing. Has been immense in many games for us but he had a shocker today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minime Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 He was injured in the first half but kept on playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 9 November, 2013 He was injured in the first half but kept on playing... What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Went off at half time holding his back, very surprised to see him back out for the second as he didn't look comfortable for most of the first. Goal wasn't anything to do with his injury, he just made a silly mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Is he away with Kenya now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 He was injured in the first half but kept on playing... Yes; hurt his lower back which badly affected his mobility. Should have gone off as soon as soon as it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb5443 Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 I think he was just ****ed off with people trying to sing his song at double the speed and clapping like retarded monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Passing was dodgy from the start today, but was pretty much unplayable against Fulham & Stoke, so clearly has the capacity to do far better when he's focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Game was to easy for him, he is better in the battles away from Home against the "weaker" teams he has to much time which is strange coming from Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Noticed he went straight down tunnel after being subbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 He was injured in the first half but kept on playing... Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 The substitution was tactically perfect as Wanyama's role of protecting the back four and breaking up play was not required, due to Hull sitting pretty deep ! Davis brought more forward momentum and energy so the shape became more effective ! All IMHO of course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 I thought he needs a better grip from good old-fashioned 'winter' studs as he seems like bambi on ice today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 @VictorWanyama: Good results today but I had back problems from the start of the game. Thanks to my teamates for taking me out of that mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 You never really see if a player is a bit unfit except that their performance drops a bit. I thought Shaw was struugling a bit against Fulham but back to 100% today, but this time it was Victor's turn. Surprised we didn't swap him at half time as the game was won. Still, we can let him have that one today & hopefully he will learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Shocker today, but good season and still young Go easy on him Are you ill. You're being sensible today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Well he hid this back problem pretty well because you'd (well I would anyway) never have guessed - good lad. However although it seems churlish to voice any criticisms after such a fine performance, with midfielders of the quality of Jack Cork and Steve Davis available on the bench perhaps VW should have been subbed earlier. Be that as it may, the one thing you could never accuse MP of is not knowing his best team because PL selection has been remarkably consistent this season. MP is obviously the type of manager who is loath to change things unless he is forced into it. Seeing the results he's getting, who on here would dare say he's wrong in that? Everyone in the stadium could see that VW was clearly at fault for their goal, but as he has surely played a big part in getting this team where it is tonight methinks - just like Artur last week - we can forgive him the odd mistake now and then. Success is funny thing, it brings a unprecedented sense of magnanimity along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Are you ill. You're being sensible today I have a bad rep on here but im a good guy really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 @VictorWanyama: Good results today but I had back problems from the start of the game. Thanks to my teamates for taking me out of that mistake Good tweet in my view. Saying something about his mistake, just enough, not too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gis Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 Thought he had a strong first half myself, and played a couple of short passes that split Hull's defense wide open which I haven't seem him do till now, and Morgan seems to have sorted out how to play alongside him. Bad mistake for their goal though, and good on MP to sub him when he did. I'm so looking forward to seeing a fully fit VW against Arsenal and Chelsea in a few weeks - fully expect him to boss both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 I have a bad rep on here but im a good guy really I can believe this ngl. It's always the realistic people who are the most unpopular politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBSAINTS Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 He hardly made one pass all day that went to a red shirt. But as above off day in an otherwise decent season so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 He hardly made one pass all day that went to a red shirt. But as above off day in an otherwise decent season so far Disagree, in the 1st half he made a number of excellent forward passes. Thought his first half was good. Seemed absent in the second. Goal was a silly lapse of concentration This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 9 November, 2013 Share Posted 9 November, 2013 He hardly made one pass all day that went to a red shirt. But as above off day in an otherwise decent season so far Well just for the record his pass completion today was as follows: First half: 27/32 (84%) Second half: 5/6 (83%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 He had been awesome for us he's only 22 and was injured. Best player at stoke. Love the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 I think Artur will being having a few words - he clearly indicated that Vic should pass the ball square to the right back position but instead he turned into trouble. Watching it on MotD last night, I felt more inclined to blame Boruc than Wanyama. I think there was a realisation in Boruc's reaction after he kicked it to Wanyama that he had made the wrong choice of pass out (hence gesticulating for Wanyama to quickly pass it out to the right) Why didn't Boruc kick it out to the player on his own on the right (Fonte?) in the first place of that was the safest route out of defence? Yes, Wanyama could have done better but Boruc could have played a safer ball too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike5 Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 He made a few mistakes, which were more noticeable because every other player was almost flawless (including all 3 subs by the way). Hopefully will take it on the chin, recover from his back problem and return to the levels he hit against Fulham and Stoke. I get the feeling he will be our key player in the next couple of games - if he does the job we know he can then we can get something from both of them. Have to say however that I was hugely impressed by JWP's versatility and his ability to drop into VW's role on occasions after he went off, as well as turning up on our right side when needed to support Clyne's bombing runs forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Watching it on MotD last night, I felt more inclined to blame Boruc than Wanyama. I think there was a realisation in Boruc's reaction after he kicked it to Wanyama that he had made the wrong choice of pass out (hence gesticulating for Wanyama to quickly pass it out to the right) Why didn't Boruc kick it out to the player on his own on the right (Fonte?) in the first place of that was the safest route out of defence? Yes, Wanyama could have done better but Boruc could have played a safer ball too. Sorry, can't agree. We've done it in game after game, it's a clear part of our game where possible, to pass short to Morgan or Vic, to start play from there, and it's never been a problem before. Wanyama wanted the ball, and even just by taking a first touch, he would've at least had his body between the man and the ball, but he made the worst possible decision, to allow it to run across him, to try and move forward with it. It was a misjudgement on Wanyama's part and, to be fair, a great finish. He's had a couple of similar close shaves and he will learn from it. The sentiment on the thread is right, he doesn't deserve a mauling and should be proud of what he has achieved so far, but such mistakes can make a big difference, especially in games against fellow top sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Sorry, can't agree. We've done it in game after game, it's a clear part of our game where possible, to pass short to Morgan or Vic, to start play from there, and it's never been a problem before. Wanyama wanted the ball, and even just by taking a first touch, he would've at least had his body between the man and the ball, but he made the worst possible decision, to allow it to run across him, to try and move forward with it. It was a misjudgement on Wanyama's part and, to be fair, a great finish. He's had a couple of similar close shaves and he will learn from it. The sentiment on the thread is right, he doesn't deserve a mauling and should be proud of what he has achieved so far, but such mistakes can make a big difference, especially in games against fellow top sides. agree minty we had been doing it all game (and in others). The 2 CBs go wide, the full backs go forward with either morgan or vic coming to get the ball. enticing the parked bus to come at us a little. Boruc gave him the ball and pointed to where he needed to play it. He had plenty of time to make a casual pass to fonte. he never and they scored. guess that is the difference from playing in the prem than against ross county he has been very good in recent weeks and only a mistake in the last two games cock ups by us is what is going against us otherwise it would have been another 2 clean sheets. MP has said many times, the way we play means we take greater risks and I guess, we paid for it a little there. Hopefully, vic learns from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Had a bad one yesterday, but it's easy to forget that he's still bloody young. His presence on the pitch is as such, he looks a lot older than he actually is! He will make the little rickets every now and then whilst he's maturing, but I think we've got one hell of a CM here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 he will learn and improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Sorry, can't agree. We've done it in game after game, it's a clear part of our game where possible, to pass short to Morgan or Vic, to start play from there, and it's never been a problem before. Wanyama wanted the ball, and even just by taking a first touch, he would've at least had his body between the man and the ball, but he made the worst possible decision, to allow it to run across him, to try and move forward with it. It was a misjudgement on Wanyama's part and, to be fair, a great finish. He's had a couple of similar close shaves and he will learn from it. The sentiment on the thread is right, he doesn't deserve a mauling and should be proud of what he has achieved so far, but such mistakes can make a big difference, especially in games against fellow top sides. Yep, fair point. Thinking out loud was never my strong point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Saint legend (soon) imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 From what I have seen so far including yesterday..... Would sooner have Victor there than any other player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 November, 2013 Excellent again today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 November, 2013 Share Posted 24 November, 2013 he'll seem even better after he scores his first goal............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 24 November, 2013 Share Posted 24 November, 2013 I thought he was great yesterday, Ozil was absolutely terrified of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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