trousers Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 I'll say it again for all those bed wetters, we didn't go there to win. It's a bit more subtle than that.....winning wasn't the primary objective. The primary objective was to give some of the fringe and academy players game time. From what I can make out (I didn't see the game, but the match thread was quite positive until the second half), we weren't a million miles away from getting a result last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 7 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Before the game ponch said the exact opposite! Agreed. He always sets out to win every game. Even after Manure he said the draw was ok but we aren't happy unless we win. But I'm sure he seriously thought we could have won with that team, and if we'd had the penalty we should have and had a bit more luck, we would have. And he obviously balanced the risks/rewards of playing the first team and made up his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Since NC had the strength of will to get rid of NA at the time he did, I am confident that The Gash will be off somewhere else in January. Be careful Alpine, they are watching, they hate the Sh, infraction points for me last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Be careful Alpine, they are watching, they hate the Sh, infraction points for me last night. For what reason ? People are now being infracted for not rating The Gash ? Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 So many of our fans seem to think we are big time before we're big time. It really is quite laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 If he played that team last night for some game time because we want to concentrate on other avenues then that's fine. But if that team played because, for some reasons we think we are good enough to play a second string team against Premier league oppososition, then I fear we may be heading for a serious wake up call. Having said that it was good to see some of the young guys getting a run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 For what reason ? People are now being infracted for not rating The Gash ? Brilliant. No they're not, he's just being a drama queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchardsaint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Our first team has barely changed all season, we have been lucky so far that we have been able to keep a settled side. This is in spite of the exertions of the high-pressing game. However, we know it won't last forever. Playing first teamers would have tired them out further, not taught us anything knew, and wasted an opportunity not to have a look at the depth of our squad and give them some match time. Yes it came at the cost of going out of a cup competition, but as many have said on here, the competition is not regarded highly by any PL team or their fans. Our result wasn't even mentioned by Jeff after the CL games last night! Yes a trip to Wembley would have been great, but even had we won last night, it would still have been a long way off. Maybe I'm a glass-full kind of guy but I didn't think the performance was a disgrace last night. Looking at the positives, we got the chance to give academy players an outing and we learned that some of our fringe players aren't up to it. It should make MP and NC realise they need to bolster the squad in January... new LB in particular. Or even give Targett a chance.. judging by the rest of the academy graduates, they look more at home than a lot of the Lees, Hooivelds etc. As for trophies, Arsenal fans have more to complain about than us in recent seasons. Do you think this morning they are still cursing last week's Chelsea defeat? i don't think we need, as a priority, a new lb. if injury strikes, then we know, not ideal, that that movement of clyne and use of chambers, short term is there. even the use of yoshi as full back, he plays there for his national team, no? anyway, this cup was the ideal way to see that, as you say. yes we do need to strenghten, around the squad and yes i believe that MP,NC and all the men who need to see it, saw it. we do seem to be in a position whereby we are buying to strenghten our squad, and the ones we thought were there for the long term are moved backwards. we won't buy back up players, imo, as that is what we already have and what the acadamy is for. look at the cork spiderman patnerning from last year. all expected that to be the first choice this year, but is there really anyone here who would drop big vic now? until form or injury or suspension dictates, you play your strongest squad in the league, and i for one, even though dissappointed we lost any game, am still optimistic about the rest of the season. we finished 14th last year, we are sitting 6th after a quarter of the season gone. finishing above 14th is our aim surely, then steady progressive build up to a stustained challenge towards top half football, then europe and winning things. talk of five year plans when we were league one, about being in the prem made people laugh, but it wasn't about in five years time this will happen, then all total self destruct, NC knows what he wants, and again, imho, i believe the long term future of the mighty saints will be secured by steady progress. if it comes one time with a trophy and then vanishes, a la pompey, what good is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 All last night shows is that we are a very good team when at full strength but if we get a couple of injuries and suspensions to key players we are going to struggle a bit. We have 14 or 15 very good players I think and to sustain a top 6 challenge you need a stronger squad than we have. Players such as Guly, Fox, Lee, Kelvin Davis, Jos and even Gaston at the moment are not going to come into the side and keep it strong. We need to buy 3 maybe 4 very very good squad players who can put pressure on the first eleven in January and mix them in with the youngsters such as Chambers who are knocking on the door. Oh and we need a decent reserve striker cos if Osvaldo and Rickie are both unavailable its all down to Jay Rod on his own. All top side have that fourth decent striker that we lack currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 If Boruc or Shaw get injured we have no adequate back-ups. Hope this is addressed in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 It's a bit more subtle than that.....winning wasn't the primary objective. The primary objective was to give some of the fringe and academy players game time. From what I can make out (I didn't see the game, but the match thread was quite positive until the second half), we weren't a million miles away from getting a result last night. Exactly. The team selection was 'conservative', and MoPo knew there was no pressure on him from the Don regarding the result. If Jos had actually been stood on the line, instead of behind it, their first might not have gone in, if Gaston hadn't left his shooting boots at home we could have had a half time lead. They fielded a stronger team in terms of experience, particularly in defence, and we had a couple of debutants, ( although we did also have Danny Fox and his phobia of the touchline ). In my opinion it was nowhere near as bad a performance as some on here are claiming, and there is no guarantee that we would win the next round even with a full strength 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 I am amazed anyone is all that bothered by this defeat, their team more or less is their first 11 who (under a new manager) need to play together for confidence, we've rightly stuck out reserves and academy players to give them a chance against a decent standard of opposition and not been torn apart. Fa cup is the one that matters anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Quick, rename the thread: 'Sunderland 2 Saints 1 - Match and Over-reactions'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 If he played that team last night for some game time because we want to concentrate on other avenues then that's fine. But if that team played because, for some reasons we think we are good enough to play a second string team against Premier league oppososition, then I fear we may be heading for a serious wake up call. Having said that it was good to see some of the young guys getting a run out. But that was surely the point of the exercise, no? To play some of the fringe players in a competitive match against a half-decent standard of opposition, rather than U21 games or pointless friendlies. I don't see it as 'assuming they would be good enough', rather a case of 'wanting to find out if they are good enough' because ultimately the result didn't matter. It's obvious Poch din't place any priority on the league cup otherwise he would have fielded a stronger team. He clearly saw it as more of an educational experience, and he will have come away from this match with some valuable insights into the capabilities of his reserve players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 It's a bit more subtle than that.....winning wasn't the primary objective. The primary objective was to give some of the fringe and academy players game time. From what I can make out (I didn't see the game, but the match thread was quite positive until the second half), we weren't a million miles away from getting a result last night. There's nothing at all subtle about what we did, it's what all top clubs do but with the rather obvious and laughable difference that we have not yet proven ourselves as a top club! The only hopes we have of winning anything in the short term is to challenge for and win the cups. Parodying the top clubs is so paralytically stupid that we will end up with what we absolutely deserve, SFA! The club may have big ambitions and big ideas but some decision makers are in danger of becoming too big for their boots. We the fans, the true heartbeat of Southampton Football Club would like the glory of actually winning something before the man with the big scythe finds his way to our addresses. Using cup games as a ruse for a training match is disrespectful of us and SFC and brings the whole game into disrepute. It disappoints, frustrates and sickens me in equal measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 (edited) There's nothing at all subtle about what we did, it's what all top clubs do but with the rather obvious and laughable difference that we have not yet proven ourselves as a top club! The only hopes we have of winning anything in the short term is to challenge for and win the cups. Parodying the top clubs is so paralytically stupid that we will end up with what we absolutely deserve, SFA! If we had won 2-1, and that isn't as far fetched as some on here seem to think, would you feel we were 'parodying' other teams. It's only a few seasons ago that we fielded a largely reserve team against premier league Blackpool in the cup - and beat them. Were we mickey taking then ? Edited 7 November, 2013 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Using cup games as a ruse for a training match is disrespectful of us and SFC and brings the whole game into disrepute. It disappoints, frustrates and sickens me in equal measure. In general I agree with what you're saying, and it's the reason why I very rarely attend cup games these days. However I'm surprised that people are talking about it as if it's a new thing and that it's because we've decided we're a big club all of a sudden. How many times have we played our strongest team in a cup match in the (8?) years since Redknapp was manager? I'd be surprised if it's more than 2 or 3 times (JPT cup final?). Even when we were in League 1 we played the reserves in an FA Cup match at home to Premier League Blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 There's nothing at all subtle about what we did, it's what all top clubs do but with the rather obvious and laughable difference that we have not yet proven ourselves as a top club! The only hopes we have of winning anything in the short term is to challenge for and win the cups. Parodying the top clubs is so paralytically stupid that we will end up with what we absolutely deserve, SFA! The club may have big ambitions and big ideas but some decision makers are in danger of becoming too big for their boots. We the fans, the true heartbeat of Southampton Football Club would like the glory of actually winning something before the man with the big scythe finds his way to our addresses. Using cup games as a ruse for a training match is disrespectful of us and SFC and brings the whole game into disrepute. It disappoints, frustrates and sickens me in equal measure. You don't really understand modern football do you? 'fans', 'heartbeat', 'glory', when do you really think those things last counted for anything? You'd have to go back to a dim and distant time before regular live TV games and the 'TV money' becoming the be all and end all of everything. Clubs in general, and some would say ours in particular, don't give a stuff about fans. If it upsets you that much perhaps you'd better not be quite so involved with it? It won't ever change till people do something about it, but I expect you will be there on Saturday cheering on our freshly rested super-stars to another very welcome 3 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 our 2nd string lost 2-1 away to theirs no massive deal It wasn't really their 2nd string...mainly squad or starting XI players. If we'd put in Osvaldo that would have been "a change"...but not really a 2nd string player. Sunderland pretty much fielded their best availbale team (given they ahd an injured goalkeeper and two players suspended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 7 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 7 November, 2013 The most upsetting thing about this result was losing my unbeaten match-thread-starting record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 The most upsetting thing about this result was losing my unbeaten match-thread-starting record. Glad to see someone has the correct perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 You don't really understand modern football do you? 'fans', 'heartbeat', 'glory', when do you really think those things last counted for anything? You'd have to go back to a dim and distant time before regular live TV games and the 'TV money' becoming the be all and end all of everything. Clubs in general, and some would say ours in particular, don't give a stuff about fans. If it upsets you that much perhaps you'd better not be quite so involved with it? It won't ever change till people do something about it, but I expect you will be there on Saturday cheering on our freshly rested super-stars to another very welcome 3 points? ...but I do understand modern football and its cynicism which is the basis of my earlier commentary and of course you are quite right on all counts but how does one become uninvolved? It's not so easy or indeed agreeable for most fans just to 'walk away' because they don't like what is going on with their club. People don't decide to become fans on the spur of the moment like deciding they fancy a take-away so why not? For most it is a lifetime's emotional involvement instilled in early formative years by well meaning but misguided parents. Even the disenchanted and disenfranchised Man U fans still turn up in green & yellow scarves every other weekend. One suspects the only remedy will be when fans are priced out of the market, the ultimate disrespect that is coming to every club near you soon when many fans will have lost their option to attend games. What would be the point of boycotting Saturday's game? Even if we did it to a "man" (& women) it wouldn't be fair to players who are as much pawns in the game as fans and in any case understand and relate to fans in a way that Clubs long since forgot how. No, we should remain engaged by carrying on supporting our team for the good things it does but make it very obvious to the powers that be when we think they are doing bad things. The FA & Football League should impose multi-year bans on clubs who take the p*ss with their cup competitions and ensure also that winners get a European slot automatically with less gongs on offer to the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 There's nothing at all subtle about what we did, it's what all top clubs do but with the rather obvious and laughable difference that we have not yet proven ourselves as a top club! The only hopes we have of winning anything in the short term is to challenge for and win the cups. Parodying the top clubs is so paralytically stupid that we will end up with what we absolutely deserve, SFA! The club may have big ambitions and big ideas but some decision makers are in danger of becoming too big for their boots. We the fans, the true heartbeat of Southampton Football Club would like the glory of actually winning something before the man with the big scythe finds his way to our addresses. Using cup games as a ruse for a training match is disrespectful of us and SFC and brings the whole game into disrepute. It disappoints, frustrates and sickens me in equal measure. That's one way of looking at it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Extended highlights now on Saints Player http://www.player.saintsfc.co.uk/latest-news/article/3527749/date/20131107131700/page/0/name/Extended-Highlights:-Sunderland-2-1-Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Just back from the game. I am quite surprised by the 'win a cup' notion on here tonight. I didn't get the feeling it existed in the two earlier rounds so not sure why it exists now? If it is because the second team should have been good enough to win in those rounds then the same excuse should be used tonight - this team was good enough to win if they performed well enough - and they didn't. We had lots of first team experience in the second string, it isn't like Pochettino left them hanging out to dry. Too much focus is given to the 'rest players' reason as to why the second string played. Whilst that is a part of the reason it isn't the only one. The Manager also values giving opportunities to other players and also giving youngsters a chance to impress. A big squad on paper doesn't mean much if there isn't viable competition for the first team and the best thing the players could do tonight is play well and give the Manager selection issues. Davis has done it this season (perform well enough in the cup to earn a recall to the first team) so the Manager has proved he will change things up based on performances in this competition. It isn't an empty gesture. As it goes, not many come out of tonight with any credit. K Davis, Yoshida, Hooiveld, Cork, Ramirez, and Lee all poor. S Davis, Fox and Jay-Rod ok. Chambers and Reed the better players for me. No-one else really made a case for themselves, though Gallagher had more impact on the game in 10mins than Lee did in 60. So this weekend when Pochettino selects the same 11 that started against Stoke no-one on that bench can feel aggrieved. No-one can say they don't get an opportunity, and no-one can start moaning about stuff. Whilst I appreciate some will say it is hard to impress in a team full of second string players where they are not match sharp I will argue it didn't stop some in the previous rounds nor tonight (Chambers and Reed). As a fan I would love a proper run at a cup and a Europa League run. I can understand why the club thinks otherwise though, and I'm not fussed that they don't fancy it themselves - certainly not to do so with any negative impact on the league form. All that money on those new signings comes from our status as a Premier League team, it doesn't come from nice little cup runs or even Europa League runs (in fact don't some teams lose money playing in that competition?). I just see the pragmatic view that puts the League Cup as an opportunity to do other things rather than a competition where you play the first team and try to win it. Would agree with your assessments of who did and didn't play well. Reed and Chambers definitely positives from the game. Lee terrible. CBs and Cork below par. Ramirez his usual frustrating self! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 dear oh dear, 13 pages of animated discussion and to what avail. I told you all days ago that with a ****e keeper like Davis we could not possibly win, the other 10 lads knew that and were probably instantly demoralised. I shudder to think what would happen if Boruc got injured at any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 ...... I told you all days ago that with a ****e keeper like Davis we could not possibly win, the other 10 lads knew that and were probably instantly demoralised....... So presumably Yoshida & Hooiveld were ecstatic lining up alongside Fox ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8267 Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Cant help but feel watching the highlights there were two, very very good calls for penalties. Davis and Lallana's shouts should have been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 (edited) Their first goal was a joke - it was right in front of us and obvious the ball was going to the backpost. Their player didn't even have to pull away and lose a marker - he was lined up there with all the time and space in the world. The big takeaway was that our system falls apart without width from our fullbacks -and Fox and Chambers don't provide that. We worked some decent positions in the first half but it was all too narrow and was begging for a ball outside into space. Reed was OK - looked better in a more advanced position than as a holding midfielder. Edited 7 November, 2013 by shurlock hat tip to trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Extended highlights now on Saints Player http://www.player.saintsfc.co.uk/latest-news/article/3527749/date/20131107131700/page/0/name/Extended-Highlights:-Sunderland-2-1-Saints Just watch the highlights. Ok, I know it's going to be biased towards covering Saints possession but from what I saw we looked pretty decent, including (puts on tin helmet) Ramirez. And, yes, we had two good penalty shouts there. Hey ho. Onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Cant help but feel watching the highlights there were two, very very good calls for penalties. Davis and Lallana's shouts should have been given. Mason was a joke - summed up by a foul on Jos from behind by Altidore (not given) and then a foul for Altidore, even though he was all over Jos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Reeves was OK Quick....change it to "Reed" before anyone notices.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Quick....change it to "Reed" before anyone notices.... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 So presumably Yoshida & Hooiveld were ecstatic lining up alongside Fox ? didn't think Fox was too bad, not good but not too bad. The problem is that with a keeper who does not control at least his 6 yard box lumps of crap like Altidore and anyone capable of supplying him suddenly become dangerous players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 didn't think Fox was too bad, not good but not too bad. The problem is that with a keeper who does not control at least his 6 yard box lumps of crap like Altidore and anyone capable of supplying him suddenly become dangerous players. Davis was lucky to get bailed out by the ref in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Davis was lucky to get bailed out by the ref in the first half. I just cannot seee exactly why we persist with him, surely it would be better to use Gazzaniga as second keeper for want of anything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 These match threads are nothing more than a platform for our resident football geniuses to slag off players they dislike irrespective of actual performances...what some sad t wats Thanks to all the rest for more reasoned views... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Spilling tears over being knocked out of the League Cup. This is the League Cup, not the FA CUP. There is a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Not long been back from a good 2 days up north. Game was sh*t and we were sh*t but I'm sure most of us that travelled expected that anyway. Annoying with an international break coming up that we couldn't have put a stronger team out. Another thing, who travels that distance to sit and watch a game in silence? I know there wasn't many of us but our support was crap. Then there were a few mongs down towards the bottom who when they did sing, sung the biggest load of b*llocks ever. For example the Yaya/Kolo Toure song that City do, but for kelvin and Steven Davis, including some hand movements too. I could have thrown up I was that disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 People were singing that Toure thing on Saturday n the concourse before kick off. Didn't hear it during the game thank fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Was yesterday the moment that the idea of a Golden Generation suddenly became possible? We know the second string weren't good enough to beat a poor Sunderland team. We know to challenge at the top we need strength in depth. So get rid of the has beens and never will be's and look at where we could be if we were in the same situation next year. Chambers, Targett, Turnbull, Stephens, Reed, Gallagher, Rowe, Sinclair have all shown glimpses of an ability, JWP & Shaw are now showing in the first team week in and week out. Add one or two more break through nippers from the next year group... Those kids are showing that they could be the makings of one of the finest and most technically gifted squads in the League. Any thoughts of the CL this year are bonkers, but with the improvement in the likes of JWP & JRod in just 10 games this year, those nippers continuing to get Capital One Game time next year. Maybe we could look back on last night as we will be doing in the coming days at some of the old SRL won't cut it in the Championship, AL is rubbish & JRod will never make it threads.. Maybe last night was a sensible part of the plan. After all, while Fergie was a magician, he built United's legacy on a Golden Generation and some lunatic imports... Shame the Jonas Brothers split up, they've probably still got the Stadium Expansion plans we'll need to dust off next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Not long been back from a good 2 days up north. Game was sh*t and we were sh*t but I'm sure most of us that travelled expected that anyway. Annoying with an international break coming up that we couldn't have put a stronger team out. Another thing, who travels that distance to sit and watch a game in silence? I know there wasn't many of us but our support was crap. Then there were a few mongs down towards the bottom who when they did sing, sung the biggest load of b*llocks ever. For example the Yaya/Kolo Toure song that City do, but for kelvin and Steven Davis, including some hand movements too. I could have thrown up I was that disgusted. Utterly cringeworthy - matched by the two pencil-necked knobs who thought they were being big men by getting kicked out after 5 mins. Just a shame they were let back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 Not long been back from a good 2 days up north. Game was sh*t and we were sh*t but I'm sure most of us that travelled expected that anyway. Annoying with an international break coming up that we couldn't have put a stronger team out. Another thing, who travels that distance to sit and watch a game in silence? I know there wasn't many of us but our support was crap. Then there were a few mongs down towards the bottom who when they did sing, sung the biggest load of b*llocks ever. For example the Yaya/Kolo Toure song that City do, but for kelvin and Steven Davis, including some hand movements too. I could have thrown up I was that disgusted. A few helmets tried getting that going at Barnsley, you were probably too p*ssed to remember. Utterly embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 An attempt at "are you the Chapel in disguise" towards the quiet Sunderland fans was piddling into the wind a little bit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 An attempt at "are you the Chapel in disguise" towards the quiet Sunderland fans was piddling into the wind a little bit too. Or was it to the "nonexistent" "left side"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 There's nothing at all subtle about what we did, it's what all top clubs do but with the rather obvious and laughable difference that we have not yet proven ourselves as a top club! The only hopes we have of winning anything in the short term is to challenge for and win the cups. Parodying the top clubs is so paralytically stupid that we will end up with what we absolutely deserve, SFA! The club may have big ambitions and big ideas but some decision makers are in danger of becoming too big for their boots. We the fans, the true heartbeat of Southampton Football Club would like the glory of actually winning something before the man with the big scythe finds his way to our addresses. Using cup games as a ruse for a training match is disrespectful of us and SFC and brings the whole game into disrepute. It disappoints, frustrates and sickens me in equal measure. This is a total over-reaction. The team that was put out last night was capable of winning - they didn't. The team we put out against Norwich in the league was capable of winning - they didn't. That's football -live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 November, 2013 Share Posted 7 November, 2013 A few helmets tried getting that going at Barnsley, you were probably too p*ssed to remember. Utterly embarrassing. And Fulham at home. Half decent chant if it's for two players who have a big role to play, and you leave the f*cking hand waving out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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