Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 This is not another Ramirez and Osvaldo thread! Just wandering if there have been many succesful recent transfers from Serie A to the prem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 This is not another Ramirez and Osvaldo thread! Just wandering if there have been many succesful recent transfers from Serie A to the prem? Zola? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAhoy Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Perhaps they struggle a bit in a league where match fixing is less prevalent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Boruc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 This is not another Ramirez and Osvaldo thread! Just wandering if there have been many succesful recent transfers from Serie A to the prem? Zola, Vialli, Gullit, Ravenelli and Balotelli (to an extent)... Loads of failures though; Crespo, Shevchenko, Brolin, Materazzi, Maccarrone etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Guly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 papa waigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Guly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan abnormal Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Bergkamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Patrick viera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reib80 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Thierry Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Flamini, Coutinho, Giaccherini, Diakite (looked decent at St Marys), Stekelenberg, Boruc, Nastasic, Chico Flores, Julio Cesar, Balotelli. All in the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 van der Sar to Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Not too many recent ones! Wonder why not Has there been many the other way? Prem > Italy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Flamini, Coutinho, Giaccherini, Diakite (looked decent at St Marys), Stekelenberg, Boruc, Nastasic, Chico Flores, Julio Cesar, Balotelli. All in the last few seasons. Few good shouts there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 There's also a few like Vydra, Osvaldo, Lamela, Dossena who still have time to come good. Ramirez would probably be seen as a flop by fans of other clubs, although his return last season was decent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 There's also a few like Vydra, Osvaldo, Lamela, Dossena who still have time to come good. Ramirez would probably be seen as a flop by fans of other clubs, although his return last season was decent enough. Ramirez is seen as a flop by fans of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Not too many recent ones! Wonder why not Has there been many the other way? Prem > Italy? David platt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Not too many recent ones! Wonder why not Has there been many the other way? Prem > Italy? David platt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 suewhistle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 suewhistle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Ramirez is seen as a flop by fans of this club. Not by me or anyone near my ST seat or at Stoke on Saturday, I think he's an outstanding talent and hope he plays consistently for us, if not no bother, means the others are doing the business. Offer your opinion by all means, but don't claim to speak for all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 suewhistle? Has she played in Italy?? Wow, didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 suewhistle? classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 suewhistle? classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Bergkamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Still a big fan of both Osvaldo and Ramirez. Quality footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Not by me or anyone near my ST seat or at Stoke on Saturday, I think he's an outstanding talent and hope he plays consistently for us, if not no bother, means the others are doing the business. Offer your opinion by all means, but don't claim to speak for all of us. I didn't say all fans did I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 (edited) Has she played in Italy?? Wow, didn't know that. You've got Turkish on ignore too? Must have. Just because Turkish _keeps_ repeating the fact doesn't mean you have to be his a***-licker. Anyway, I now play in Hants Div 3! :-) Edited 4 November, 2013 by suewhistle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Bearsy, I expected more from you. There's actually intelligence underneath the exterior, and that was unworthy of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 sorry sue! I didn't mean it to be like a nasty dig honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Suzy seems to be getting rinsed by a lot of posters, won't stop her bleating though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 You've got Turkish on ignore too? Must have. Just because Turkish _keeps_ repeating the fact doesn't mean you have to be his a***-licker. Anyway, I now play in Hants Div 3! :-) As well as who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 sorry sue! I didn't mean it to be like a nasty dig honest! OK, it might have been funny once, but constant repetition doesn't make it funnier and smacks of playground bullying. (not particularly having a go at you there, mind...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 Not by me or anyone near my ST seat or at Stoke on Saturday, I think he's an outstanding talent and hope he plays consistently for us, if not no bother, means the others are doing the business. Offer your opinion by all means, but don't claim to speak for all of us. Not all maybe but quite a few of which I one of the quite a few. Certainly 'outstanding' in my opinion is stretching a point...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 Not all maybe but quite a few of which I one of the quite a few. Certainly 'outstanding' in my opinion is stretching a point...... Indeed. Quite clearly has been disappointing so far and if he left tomorrow imo would be considered a flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 I was still in the very optimistic about Gaston camp, and believed he just hadn't been given a chance. But seeing him against Stoke on Saturday at a time when the game was screaming out for creativity and see him barely able to make a pass has seen me join the "sell him and move on" camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 He's twenty fookin two!!! Just moved to a new country. Just moved to a new club. You have to give him at least 18 months IMO. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 If this thread isn't about Gaston or Osvaldo should it not be moved to another part of the forum? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 Not by me or anyone near my ST seat or at Stoke on Saturday, I think he's an outstanding talent and hope he plays consistently for us, if not no bother, means the others are doing the business. Offer your opinion by all means, but don't claim to speak for all of us. You ignored the statement made, you say he is an outstanding talent, I in some ways agree but that does not mean he has played well (he has not in anyway, shape or form) consistently nor does he deserve a place in the team or squad as it stands, you dont even define your own argument you simply say he is an outstanding talent, its a nothing statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 You ignored the statement made, you say he is an outstanding talent, I in some ways agree but that does not mean he has played well (he has not in anyway, shape or form) consistently nor does he deserve a place in the team or squad as it stands, you dont even define your own argument you simply say he is an outstanding talent, its a nothing statement. Long sentence alert... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 He's twenty fookin two!!! Just moved to a new country. Just moved to a new club. You have to give him at least 18 months IMO. Get a grip. I honestly cant make out whether this is sattire at its finest or an absolute belter of a clapper post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 Long sentence alert... No Jeff not at all, read again my child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 He's twenty fookin two!!! Just moved to a new country. Just moved to a new club. You have to give him at least 18 months IMO. Get a grip. What just like Lovren who came in and started performing from day one. I'm sure we could name lots of players with the same/similar criteria who have performed for saints. Gaston has had plenty of chances and not really taken them IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 I honestly cant make out whether this is sattire at its finest or an absolute belter of a clapper post. Or one from a supporter? Look it up skate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 OK, it might have been funny once, but constant repetition doesn't make it funnier and smacks of playground bullying. (not particularly having a go at you there, mind...). Quite, so why do you mention it on every post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 No Jeff not at all, read again my child. What? There are no full stops in the whole statement until the end, hence a long sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 He's twenty fookin two!!! Just moved to a new country. Just moved to a new club. You have to give him at least 18 months IMO. Get a grip. I agree with giving players a time, around 18 months is fair enough. The issue is that after 15 months, you'd expect him to be getting there. The reality is that he's been here almost 18 months, he is further away than he ever was from a starting place. There's nothing I would have loved more to have seen Gaston perform for us, but I can see that it's time to cut losses - and as fans we need to stop clinging onto to the ''he may come good'' line, as I'm sure we'll still be saying it in 3 years time when he's 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 I agree with giving players a time, around 18 months is fair enough. The issue is that after 15 months, you'd expect him to be getting there. The reality is that he's been here almost 18 months, he is further away than he ever was from a starting place. There's nothing I would have loved more to have seen Gaston perform for us, but I can see that it's time to cut losses - and as fans we need to stop clinging onto to the ''he may come good'' line, as I'm sure we'll still be saying it in 3 years time when he's 25. Plus it will mean the usual susects have one less thing to moan about when we are 6th in the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 What? There are no full stops in the whole statement until the end, hence a long sentence. I think it read ok, a comma in there to break it up, the same theme and you could read it in one breath, yes ok by me my child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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