igsey Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 In the NPC we regularly played the same team Tuesday Saturday... Why now we're in the PL with supposedly vastly improved fitness should we be resting players? Give some guys who deserve it a chance stake a claim - but there is no reason to put out a weak team. Davis Clyne Fonte Yoshida Fox Schneiderlin Cork JWP Davis Lallana Osvaldo I agree with this team, maybe with Lee/Isgrove in the mix somewhere. Given how injury-prone Shaw is, I wouldn't want him playing in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Poch will play mainly bench and u21 players. The way we train (double sessions) and the intensity of our pressing game wont suit playing two games in a week. Rest and recovery is vital to avoid injuries and burn out which the players have commented on in various interviews. I can see perhaps JRod and JWP playing but other than that side will be completely changed. League is the clubs priority as well as developing the youngsters so the cup's are ideal to be used for that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Now it looks like an interesting competition - doesn't it ?.....with the possibility of Chelsea in the next round. There's still a long way to go to win the thing, BUT......it begs the question ..will MP be tempted to play some of the " regulars" instead of our standard reserve / bench players ? If he continues to play the same line-up as in the last round, it'll show he either has confidence in them (knowing we won't lose three points)- if we don't win .or maybe he just doesn't worry. If he sees this as a possible entry into Europe ?..then he might be tempted to strengthen the side with a few " bigger " names. Osvaldo?..Lovren?..or Rodriguez..(who played in prev.rounds) .....or one or two others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Two players for every position - the cups are where the reserves/squad players get their competitive football nowadays. I wouldn't be taking any of the first team starters away midweek where we don't need to. KD CC JOS/YOSHI FOX JACK / DAVIS ISGROVE RAMIREZ GULLY (LEE) OSVALDO Not the worse side in the world, Sunderland have loads of players that GP will want to look at, and suspensions too, so they won't be full strength either. 1-1 and pens anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 i would like us to play a strong team in this and progress in the competition, but am resigned to the fact that we won't. One of the most depressing aspects of modern football is the approach to the cups of clubs like ours. We should be perfectly placed to have a good go at them at the moment, we don't have the threat of relegation hanging over us, we are in the last 16 having not risked any of our first team so far, we don't have the distration of Europe that all the other teams around us in the league tend to, so we should have the energy to have a go at this. the worst games for the paying fan last year were Leeds away (in this round of the cup) going out 2-0 with no fight whatsover, and losing 5-1 at home in the cup to Chelsea where we never looked interested at all. i am sure Chelsea fans are hoping we win this, they already have Sunderland away in Wednesday 4th December in the league! can't imagine many of them will fancy that 2 weeks later again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Think this game is an opportunity to give those who haven't played last couple of games a runout, making Hull at the weekend a priority. Davis Chambers Yoshida Hooiveld Fox Cork Davis Guly Ramirez Isgrove Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Is this not an ideal opportunity for both Ramirez and Osvaldo to play together? Gives us a chance to see if it is indeed true that they are on a different wavelength to the rest of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 i would like us to play a strong team in this and progress in the competition, but am resigned to the fact that we won't. One of the most depressing aspects of modern football is the approach to the cups of clubs like ours. We should be perfectly placed to have a good go at them at the moment, we don't have the threat of relegation hanging over us, we are in the last 16 having not risked any of our first team so far, we don't have the distration of Europe that all the other teams around us in the league tend to, so we should have the energy to have a go at this. the worst games for the paying fan last year were Leeds away (in this round of the cup) going out 2-0 with no fight whatsover, and losing 5-1 at home in the cup to Chelsea where we never looked interested at all. i am sure Chelsea fans are hoping we win this, they already have Sunderland away in Wednesday 4th December in the league! can't imagine many of them will fancy that 2 weeks later again. TBF we pretty much put out our first XI vs Chelsea, and then brought on a few squad players once the game was pretty much lost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 TBF we pretty much put out our first XI vs Chelsea, and then brought on a few squad players once the game was pretty much lost.... Yep, teams and match report still on here. http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/fa-cup/2012-2013/southampton-chelsea-570311.html Slightly weakened starting 11, I suppose, but interesting to look at the side back then and how much has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Use this11.com for drawing your football tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 (edited) Use this11.com for drawing your football tactics Don't think Guly is fit and anyway even if he was we won't win with that side, defensively far too weak. We are greatly handicapped by the fact that this match has been moved back to a Wednesday when we're at home on the following Saturday..Just can't see us winning or even putting up a creditable performace withn the side that we'll put out. Spanking 4 or 5-1. Sunderland have all the advantage, they're at home and don't play again until Sunday afternoon, at home again, agaist Citeh in a match they'll have probably already written off anyway. Edited 4 November, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd like to see Osvaldo, Lee, Cork, Yoshi and Chambers all get a start. Keep Boruc in goals. Boruc Chambers Lovren Yoshi Fox Cork Davis Lee Gaston JRod Osvaldo Chances of this line up: Slim to none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd like to see Osvaldo, Lee, Cork, Yoshi and Chambers all get a start. Keep Boruc in goals. Boruc Chambers Lovren Yoshi Fox Cork Davis Lee Gaston JRod Osvaldo Chances of this line up: Slim to none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Don't think Guly is fit and anyway even if he was we won't win with that side, defensively far too weak. We are greatly handicapped by the fact that this match has been moved back to a Wednesday when we're at home on the following Saturday..Just can't see us winning or even putting up a creditable performace withn the side that we'll put out. Spanking 4 or 5-1. Sunderland have all the advantage, they're at home and don't play again until Sunday afternoon, at home again, agaist Citeh in a match they'll have probably already written off anyway. Well considering in your other post earlier in this thread saying that it will be pretty much the same team as last round, this is pretty much the same team as last round with just one change with isgrove in for ward-prowse. How would you change it? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 So basically a full first team less Morgan (and perhaps JWP) for some reason or other. It won't happen because we are not going to have all of our top players trekking off to Sunderland on a wdnesday evening when we have a vital home game on Saturday at 3. Side will be much the same as that of the last round with a couple of first teamers on the bench in a fire bucket role. Now if Hull had a game this week it might be different but they don't so it won't. Just to show the last post by yourself Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Well considering in your other post earlier in this thread saying that it will be pretty much the same team as last round, this is pretty much the same team as last round with just one change with isgrove in for ward-prowse. How would you change it? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk I wouldn't because to me winning on Saturday is far more important. The difference is that we can beat Bristol City with our reserves but we certainly can't beat Sunderland at the Stadium of Light so we'll just have to go damage limitation unless Gaston plays a blinder and beats them all by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 So you would play same team as against Stoke? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 So you would play same team as against Stoke? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk No I was answering a post that proposed putting out the same team as against Stoke with just Morgan and JWP replaced by Davis and Cork, said it wasn't going to happen. We'll put out our full "reserve side" roughly the same that was used against Bristol and get thumped unless Gaston wins it all by himself or gets a hand from Osvaldo but I don't think he'll even play either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 No I was answering a post that proposed putting out the same team as against Stoke with just Morgan and JWP replaced by Davis and Cork, said it wasn't going to happen. We'll put out our full "reserve side" roughly the same that was used against Bristol and get thumped unless Gaston wins it all by himself or gets a hand from Osvaldo but I don't think he'll even play either. Oh so you agree with the team I posted then Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Oh so you agree with the team I posted then Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Yes but as I said we won't win but it just doesn't matter. Just hopeful of an encouraging performence from Gaston and that's about all we can hope for. We need to win on Saturday, could go just 3 points off the top because of The Utd-Arse game on Sunday. Sunderland just doesn't matter. NB Guly is still injured though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I wouldn't because to me winning on Saturday is far more important. The difference is that we can beat Bristol City with our reserves but we certainly can't beat Sunderland at the Stadium of Light so we'll just have to go damage limitation unless Gaston plays a blinder and beats them all by himself. It's a sad day when a dime-a-dozen nondescript league game against (wait for it) Hull City is regarded as more of a priority than the club pursuing only its second major trophy of the modern era. Some of you lot are effing nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easty Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 You cannot be serious! Not sure anybody cares one way or the other. Can't see any of our lads queuing up to get picked for a cold night up int frozen norf! Yeah, but you and the rest of the I dont give a sh!ts, will be first in the que for tickets if we manage to get to the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 It's a sad day when a dime-a-dozen nondescript league game against (wait for it) Hull City is regarded as more of a priority than the club pursuing only its second major trophy of the modern era. Some of you lot are effing nuts. The Club's strategy is clear, we have not spent 60 million £ to win the Capital One consolation trophy. Privileging the JPT when we wanted to get promoted in our first (and should have been only) season in League 1 eventually led to Pardew's demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Yeah, but you and the rest of the I dont give a sh!ts, will be first in the que for tickets if we manage to get to the final But we won't get to the final, we won't get past Sunderland so the question is purely academic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Yes but as I said we won't win but it just doesn't matter. Just hopeful of an encouraging performence from Gaston and that's about all we can hope for. We need to win on Saturday, could go just 3 points off the top because of The Utd-Arse game on Sunday. Sunderland just doesn't matter. NB Guly is still injured though. I think we'll field more or less a reserve side, and so will Sunderland. The result could go either way, but if Sunderland do field their reserves, (as I'd expect,) then I think we'll shade it. And to all those saying we should field our strongest side regardless, a freezing night up north against Sunderland reserves with a point to prove is absolutely tailor-made for a slew of injuries. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I think we'll field more or less a reserve side, and so will Sunderland. The result could go either way, but if Sunderland do field their reserves, (as I'd expect,) then I think we'll shade it. And to all those saying we should field our strongest side regardless, a freezing night up north against Sunderland reserves with a point to prove is absolutely tailor-made for a slew of injuries. Just saying. Sunderland will put out their full first XI, they need the practice. They don't play again until Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 The Club's strategy is clear, we have not spent 60 million £ to win the Capital One consolation trophy. Privileging the JPT when we wanted to get promoted in our first (and should have been only) season in League 1 eventually led to Pardew's demise. I think there's a call for you over on the "arrogance" thread. You do realise every place in the league table that isn't first place is a "consolation" too? Whoop whoop seventh consolation place = Saints still have won eff all for thirty years. Whoop whoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 @SouthamptonFC: Howard Webb has been appointed referee for this Saturday's home game against @hullcityteam. #saintsfc Edit: oops, wrong game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Those of you hoping/predicting that there will be significant first choice 11 presence in our line up on Weds are setting yourselves up to be disappointed. I will be amazed in any of the starting eleven from Saturday start on Wednesday night. In fact, I'd be disappointed if they did. I don't want to see any of them even travel. We have enough depth with the 'reserve' eleven plus the youngsters to give a good account of ourselves. I'm not bothered about the result. Only the performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Those of you hoping/predicting that there will be significant first choice 11 presence in our line up on Weds are setting yourselves up to be disappointed. I will be amazed in any of the starting eleven from Saturday start on Wednesday night. In fact, I'd be disappointed if they did. I don't want to see any of them even travel. We have enough depth with the 'reserve' eleven plus the youngsters to give a good account of ourselves. I'm not bothered about the result. Only the performance. Don't think we're taking the game very seriously, hasn't even got a mention on the OS. I suppose there'll be a build up from Jesus on there at sometime tomorrow when the team have already left for Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 omg i hope the club haven't forgot about this game! Do you think i should send them an email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Those of you hoping/predicting that there will be significant first choice 11 presence in our line up on Weds are setting yourselves up to be disappointed. I will be amazed in any of the starting eleven from Saturday start on Wednesday night. In fact, I'd be disappointed if they did. I don't want to see any of them even travel. We have enough depth with the 'reserve' eleven plus the youngsters to give a good account of ourselves. I'm not bothered about the result. Only the performance. Don't fancy trying to actually win something then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike5 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd hope we keep the majority of the first team at home ready to tear Hull a new one on Saturday, maybe go with this for Wed: Davis in goal (either one I'm not fussed) Chambers, Yoshi, Hooiveld, Foxy in Defence. Schneiderlin/Waynetta (45 min each) along with Corky in Midfield Ramirez, Isgrove and maybe the other Davis behind ... ... Lee (why not?). Or maybe Ossie for a bit if he doesn't mind a wet Wednesday night in Mackem land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd hope we keep the majority of the first team at home ready to tear Hull a new one on Saturday, maybe go with this for Wed: Davis in goal (either one I'm not fussed) Chambers, Yoshi, Hooiveld, Foxy in Defence. Schneiderlin/Waynetta (45 min each) along with Corky in Midfield Ramirez, Isgrove and maybe the other Davis behind ... ... Lee (why not?). Or maybe Ossie for a bit if he doesn't mind a wet Wednesday night in Mackem land Agreed! That side should be enough for Sunderland Predict a 3-0 win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 If fit, should Osvaldo start? yeah good opportunity to give the reserves a run-out IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Team I would put out: Boruc Chambers, Lovren, Yoshida, Clyne Cork, Wanyama S Davis, Ramirez, JRod Osvaldo If Osvaldo not fit JWP in mid with JRod up front. Team I think will play: K Davis Chambers, Jos, Yoshida, Fox Cork, S Davis JWP, Ramirez, Lee JRod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd take a win in the League Cup and finishing 12th-14th then ever worrying about the top 10. You're mental if you don't want to experience that feeling of a proper cup win with Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd take a win in the League Cup and finishing 12th-14th then ever worrying about the top 10. You're mental if you don't want to experience that feeling of a proper cup win with Saints. Very well put. Just look at the footage of Swansea fans at the end of their final last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd take a win in the League Cup and finishing 12th-14th then ever worrying about the top 10. You're mental if you don't want to experience that feeling of a proper cup win with Saints. been there, done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I'd take a win in the League Cup and finishing 12th-14th then ever worrying about the top 10. You're mental if you don't want to experience that feeling of a proper cup win with Saints. Agreed. Though winning a cup and finishing top 10 as well would be f*cking awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 been there, done that. We've also finished 2nd in the league many years ago, doesn't mean it wouldn't be a great buzz to do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 We should go for it, nothing beats a cup win and we'd get European Football next season. On top of that, from next season (2014/15) the winner of the EL gets a CL spot so it is very much worth participating in. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22640095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Sunderland will put out their full first XI We'll see on wednesday, but I'll be amazed if they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 been there, done that. ....we've finished second-to-eighth place plenty of times before but you seem to be creaming yourself over a match against Hull that may ultimately result in us finishing in, say, seventh place. Amazing. Book the open top bus. Woo-hoo. I'd take a cup win all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Small timers. Yes I want to win something. The premier league. A Champions League spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonball Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 I hope we go for it with a strong team. Losing is not a habit we want to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Sam Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Going to this with a mate from work (as we are half way there already!) Hope the team are more up for it than most of the posters on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Sam Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Going to this with a mate from work (as we are half way there already!) Hope the team are more up for it than most of the posters on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Small timers. Yes I want to win something. The premier league. A Champions League spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Davis Chambers Yoshida Hooiveld Fox Cork S.Davis Ramirez Lee Rowe or Isgrove J Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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