Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Good summary mate! Were the stoke fans as good as last season? They were very poor. We weren't that much better, too many day trippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 No MOTM poll? Wanyama kept us in the game then went on to boss it. His best game yet. Agreed, thought both him and MS had very good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Boruc would be quite a good shout for a Bond villain. Love 'im. And he will save us those two points lost pretty quickly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Boruc's reaction when Rodriguez equalised was priceless. Love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Who thought the Ramirez substitution improved us? Not at all, thought Rodriguez was our most dangerous forward at times. Players like Huth and Shawcross won't like his direct running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Thought we should of won but was a decent performance. Think the early goal rattled us first 10mins and got their tails up but after that normal service resumed till about the 80th min when Stoke started to get the upper hand a bit. Think critism of GR is a bit OTT, took a few bad touches when first came on but looked confident running with the ball and not sure why he doesn't get fouls when he should, I thought for a sec that the ref wasnt even going to give a foul for the bodycheck. Not to mention he nearly scored the winner but for a **** offside decision and a top draw save from their keeper. MOM was our VW. Still unbeaten run continues and Hull at home next which won't be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Boruc would be quite a good shout for a Bond villain. Love 'im. Replace one eye with a red snooker ball and he's in the next film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I've just seen our goal on MOTD. There's not way Jay Rod really meant to do that ... is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I've just seen our goal on MOTD. There's no way Jay Rod really meant to do that ... is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 IMO we have a goalscoring problem. Its all down to whether Rickie is up for it and if J-Rod gets on. IMO Osvaldo is going the same way as The Gash. Did he even create anything yesterday when he came on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I've just seen our goal on MOTD. There's no way Jay Rod really meant to do that ... is there? He definitely meant to head it down as that's what strikers always try to do to get the best chance of keeping it on target (he did the same thing with his volley against Swansea) but no, he didn't mean to bounce it over the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I've just seen our goal on MOTD. There's no way Jay Rod really meant to do that ... is there? unless he's completely mastered the science of ball trajectories and bounce characteristics these last few days.. no . Still the ball was very bouncy on what should have been a damp pitch. Must have a look through some highlights and see if the white balls seem to bounce as much on their pitch. Still the white and yellow versions must be exactly the same right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 IMO we have a goalscoring problem. Its all down to whether Rickie is up for it and if J-Rod gets on. IMO Osvaldo is going the same way as The Gash. Did he even create anything yesterday when he came on? He ran and committed defenders and drew fouls, something which we don't usually do, at least from central positions. Looked onside for the last chance as well. But no he didn't change a game that was already getting messy. We worked some good openings; but we are still too eager to take an extra touch or try and pass the ball into the net. Indeed, its one reason why we arguably miss Osvaldo. He is greedy in a good sense - the number of instinctive shots he's got off, foiled only by very good saves is a breath of fresh air. But you don't watch us enough to appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 IMO we have a goalscoring problem. Its all down to whether Rickie is up for it and if J-Rod gets on. IMO Osvaldo is going the same way as The Gash. Did he even create anything yesterday when he came on? Just to clarify, are you trying to critcise Osvaldo's performance yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 IMO we have a goalscoring problem. Its all down to whether Rickie is up for it and if J-Rod gets on. IMO Osvaldo is going the same way as The Gash. Did he even create anything yesterday when he came on? We do lack cutting edge in the final 3rd thats for sure. For all our good defensive and midfield play we do look lost and lack options when we break forward. Cant remember Begovic making any saves 2nd half and with wind behind we should have made the most of it. Wont get another chance to go 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Just to clarify, are you trying to critcise Osvaldo's performance yesterday? You've got to admit it - Alps has a point... Osvaldo has completely gone missing in the last couple of games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Thought we should of won I thought we should HAVE won too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 IMO we have a goalscoring problem. Its all down to whether Rickie is up for it and if J-Rod gets on. IMO Osvaldo is going the same way as The Gash. Did he even create anything yesterday when he came on? Not sure if its just your choice of words, but I'd suggest we haven't really got any 'problems' at the moment. Areas we can always improve, having aims etc - but problems?! Over ¼ of season gone, we are one point of 2nd, with similar goal difference. We are above spurs, everton and man utd. Last game I saw was the most convincing team performance you could wish for in the prem. The ability and performance of our first 11 is keeping quality players out. Whenever I've seen Ramirez he has offered quality and opened up other teams - clearly not consistently - but slating he gets is unjustified. (Worst two are alpine who also slated JayRod and Morgan, and Barry who holds Norwich up as our model!) Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 IMO we have a goalscoring problem. Its all down to whether Rickie is up for it and if J-Rod gets on. IMO Osvaldo is going the same way as The Gash. Did he even create anything yesterday when he came on? We don't really. Do we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Thought we controlled the game again yesterday, and we really look a proper good team now. Big Vic and Schneiders were excellent, as was Clyne I thought. Nothing Artur could do about that goal, the wind was ridiculous at the Britannia. I was in row 5, and was nearly blown over the seat in front. Very tough conditions to defend against, and we did ever so well to continue playing our football. The goal was a superb bit of play. Fair play to Artur though. Despite the fact most of us felt he couldn't do anything about the goal, he responded well, kept his head and made a decent save second half. He apologised to the fans at half time and full time, but this guy has won us so many points already. Plus, he came out and faced the media and didn't hide away. Top guy and top keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Not sure if its just your choice of words, but I'd suggest we haven't really got any 'problems' at the moment. Areas we can always improve, having aims etc - but problems?! Over ¼ of season gone, we are one point of 2nd, with similar goal difference. We are above spurs, everton and man utd. Last game I saw was the most convincing team performance you could wish for in the prem. The ability and performance of our first 11 is keeping quality players out. Whenever I've seen Ramirez he has offered quality and opened up other teams - clearly not consistently - but slating he gets is unjustified. (Worst two are alpine who also slated JayRod and Morgan, and Barry who holds Norwich up as our model!) Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Yet we only scored twice, despite one of the most dominant performances seen in many-a-year. I think you've proved my point. Oh, and dont lie - I havent ever had a major pop at J-Rod; I did ask (like many) why we spent so much money and used him so strangely under NA. And I havent criticised Schneiderlin for years, because he has proven himself and is now consistent. I am, however, totally done in over The Gash. He came on when we were chasing the win, a situation made for him, and made f**k all difference. In fact I got the impression from the match thread that Stoke came back into it a bit when he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Yet we only scored twice, despite one of the most dominant performances seen in many-a-year. I think you've proved my point. Oh, and dont lie - I havent ever had a major pop at J-Rod; I did ask (like many) why we spent so much money and used him so strangely under NA. And I havent criticised Schneiderlin for years, because he has proven himself and is now consistent. I am, however, totally done in over The Gash. He came on when we were chasing the win, a situation made for him, and made f**k all difference. In fact I got the impression from the match thread that Stoke came back into it a bit when he came on. So you didn't watch the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Yet we only scored twice, despite one of the most dominant performances seen in many-a-year. I think you've proved my point. Oh, and dont lie - I havent ever had a major pop at J-Rod; I did ask (like many) why we spent so much money and used him so strangely under NA. And I havent criticised Schneiderlin for years, because he has proven himself and is now consistent. I am, however, totally done in over The Gash. He came on when we were chasing the win, a situation made for him, and made f**k all difference. In fact I got the impression from the match thread that Stoke came back into it a bit when he came on. I didn't see yesterday's game, was reliant on national radio but they reported Ramirez had couple of positive - something we sometimes miss from central positions - and something he has often shown. (Would be interesting how many goals we have had from free kicks he has one with his running - he gets quite a few) added to his goals and assists I can't see why he is disliked but guess will never understand need to continually find cause to moan. Not sure how a 2-0 win proves your point - all proves is you inability to enjoy our performances if you saw Fulham as a problem. Reassuring that you have realised your mistake with Morgan and Jay "why the f**k did we ever sign him" Rodriguez. Perhaps learn that its worth giving players time sometimes? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 One possible critique of MP yesterday was that we did seem to run out of steam in the last 10 minutes. Gaston gave us something extra but some of the players seemed to be blowing and we were not hunting in packs. The opinion in the pub watching the game was that perhaps Davies's fresh legs for JWP might have made a difference. Even the mighty VW was shown after another lung busting chase-down to be having to push himself to get back into position. I can fully understand all the reasons that MP would pick to NOT make a change, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Yet we only scored twice, despite one of the most dominant performances seen in many-a-year. I think you've proved my point. I never had a pop at you. I like contrarians.But I think you are missing a massive point. This team is still work in progress. Poch has started on the most important part defence. But he is drilling the team in a particular way. The Fulham match we were 2 nil up and totally dominant. The possesion meant it was pracically impossible for Fulham to score. Three points in the bag. What would be the point in going gung-ho and risking a 2 all ? I dont doubt at all when that part of the game becomes second nature (nearly is) Poch will move on to a more attacking style. I reckon we will be whopping the **** out of teams next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I never had a pop at you. I like contrarians.But I think you are missing a massive point. This team is still work in progress. Poch has started on the most important part defence. But he is drilling the team in a particular way. The Fulham match we were 2 nil up and totally dominant. The possesion meant it was pracically impossible for Fulham to score. Three points in the bag. What would be the point in going gung-ho and risking a 2 all ? I dont doubt at all when that part of the game becomes second nature (nearly is) Poch will move on to a more attacking style. I reckon we will be whopping the **** out of teams next season. I don't think we will ever score lots of goals. I said it a few weeks back, we'll win lots of games 1-0, 2-0, a few 1-1's, 0-0's. Make no doubt about it, this is not a high scoring side, you can see it in the make up. But that's been sacrificed in order to make us one of the best defensive units in European football. I know what I prefer, and it's not like we're boring to watch either. We're just very patient, disciplined, organised and professional. For example, if we're 1-0 up or 2-0 up we're the sort of side who will just shut up shop and close the rest of the game up, rather than go in search for more goals and open it up for no reason. That's what I think we're evolving into, and I don't see it as a problem. We don't and won't constantly attack teams with pace and power down the flanks under MP - and the fact we don't, isn't a fault. This is our style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I actually thought Gaston played pretty well when he came on yesterday, lots of positive running with the ball, committing defenders and always showing to receive a pass. He was fouled a lot and that gave us opportunities to deliver some set pieces in dangerous areas and his chance was onside at the end, but denied by a class save. Think he got caught once in possession just after he came on but sharpened up after that. Game of opinions as as always, but think a few may be holding Ramirez to a different standard/expectation for some reason. Lallana was exceptional first half, but average the 2nd and MOTM was either Wanyama or JWP. Victor probably edging it as he consistently seems to be competing against 2 opposition midfielders and coming out on top........its like 11 v 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I actually thought Gaston played pretty well when he came on yesterday, lots of positive running with the ball, committing defenders and always showing to receive a pass. He was fouled a lot and that gave us opportunities to deliver some set pieces in dangerous areas and his chance was onside at the end, but denied by a class save. Think he got caught once in possession just after he came on but sharpened up after that. Game of opinions as as always, but think a few may be holding Ramirez to a different standard/expectation for some reason. Lallana was exceptional first half, but average the 2nd and MOTM was either Wanyama or JWP. Victor probably edging it as he consistently seems to be competing against 2 opposition midfielders and coming out on top........its like 11 v 12 He didn't do a great deal if I'm honest. A couple of opportunities where he was just brushed off the ball and played us into trouble, a couple of passes he just played to the opposition. A few good runs, but I just don't see how he fits in this team. He's not a player suited to a team which play a high press, he's too careless with his passing and too weak when in possession and it will put us into trouble far too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I didn't see yesterday's game, was reliant on national radio but they reported Ramirez had couple of positive - something we sometimes miss from central positions - and something he has often shown. (Would be interesting how many goals we have had from free kicks he has one with his running - he gets quite a few) added to his goals and assists I can't see why he is disliked but guess will never understand need to continually find cause to moan. Not sure how a 2-0 win proves your point - all proves is you inability to enjoy our performances if you saw Fulham as a problem. Reassuring that you have realised your mistake with Morgan and Jay "why the f**k did we ever sign him" Rodriguez. Perhaps learn that its worth giving players time sometimes? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk I am totally open to changing my mind when a player comes good and proves me wrong. You have failed to point out that I was very scathing of Lallana last season too, yet he seems to have rediscovered his mojo (there you go, one for free for you). FFS, I thought this was a chat site populated by adults. Adults can change their mind when proving wrong without a scream chorus of "Na-Na-Ne-Na-Na". Grow up a bit. BTW, I reckon The Gash will be gone long before he manages to prove me wrong and change my mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I am totally open to changing my mind when a player comes good and proves me wrong. You have failed to point out that I was very scathing of Lallana last season too, yet he seems to have rediscovered his mojo (there you go, one for free for you). FFS, I thought this was a chat site populated by adults. Adults can change their mind when proving wrong without a scream chorus of "Na-Na-Ne-Na-Na". Grow up a bit. BTW, I reckon The Gash will be gone long before he manages to prove me wrong and change my mind.... You're telling people to grow up, and there you are calling Gaston Ramirez ''the gash''. Yeah, really mature. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I think some folk are desperate for Gaston to be sold and labelled a failure just so they can say "told you". He was on a hiding to nothing yesterday when he came on; it was an odd substitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 IMO Osvaldo is going the same way as The Gash. Oh come on, that's ridiculous. I don't have much time for the people who make dull sport of having a go at you, but to write off a striker of proven international quality after fewer than ten starts is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Yeah Osvaldo is certainly going the same way, it's strange how he has had so many critics on here continuing to have moan about him when he hasn't even played, it's ridiculous. I'll agree now that Ramirez just hasn't worked out for us, I'm sure he'll go on to be a success at another team. As for Alpine wondering why we only scored twice against Fulham did you watch the game? It was won in the first half, and we just kept possession to kill off the game and it worked a treat, plus it allowed us to drop the tempo. Sure, we'd all like another 2 or 3 goals, but MP wanted to make sure the game was won and it worked out fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Oh come on, that's ridiculous. I don't have much time for the people who make dull sport of having a go at you, but to write off a striker of proven international quality after fewer than ten starts is just stupid. In Alpine's world a player is gash (lol pmsl) until proved otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynesparksaint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I think some folk are desperate for Gaston to be sold and labelled a failure just so they can say "told you". He was on a hiding to nothing yesterday when he came on; it was an odd substitution. Agree with this. If Davis had come on and made the same impact, it would have been barely mentioned. Astonishing that we need a scapegoat, during the best spell the club has had in 30-odd years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Our support yesterday was sh*t. I've always thought it is a bit boring when other sets of fans sing "you've only got one song" to us but yesterday that was the case. Must have sung it a good 20 times yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I really don't know why so many on here are so anti Ramirez. He has real top-class quality and if he were given a chance he could show it. What would the reaction of the naysayers have been if that goal had gone in and been correctly ruled onside?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I know why so many people are anti-Ramirez, because they see 10 other players on the pitch, working their socks off and then they see a guy walking around thinking he can spend about half an hour on the ball. It doesn't happen like that in the PL. I was one of the people who said he has undoubted quality and will come good, but it has been 15 months since he joined, and we haven't seen anything from him to be honest. We lost all our attacking impetus when we took Jay Rod off and put him on yesterday. He is a very frustrating player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I know why so many people are anti-Ramirez, because they see 10 other players on the pitch, working their socks off and then they see a guy walking around thinking he can spend about half an hour on the ball. It doesn't happen like that in the PL. I was one of the people who said he has undoubted quality and will come good, but it has been 15 months since he joined, and we haven't seen anything from him to be honest. We lost all our attacking impetus when we took Jay Rod off and put him on yesterday. He is a very frustrating player. That's pretty much it to be honest. I think it's got to the point where he's had long enough here to start to make an impact. All this ''Give him a chance'' ''Give him a run in the side'' is just hollow-hope. He's had 15 months of chances. I thought this year would be a fresh start for him, but the fact that he barley featured speaks volumes. As much as we want him to succeed here, it's looking increasingly likely that he simply won't. That doesn't mean he's a bad player, he's just not the sort of player we can risk in our system, which has been pretty much 100% confirmed based on his lack of appearances. Don't read into the lack of fitness stuff either, that's just waffle. As well as i wanted him to do, he will be gone in January - probably on loan initially. Let's go out there and get a number 10 who works for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 S Clarke the voice of reason again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 As well as i wanted him to do, he will be gone in January - probably on loan initially. Let's go out there and get a number 10 who works for the team. If that's really the case we might as well stick with S Davis, because a No. 10's who combines Gaston's talent with a win-the-ball-at-all-costs work ethic will set us back at least double our current transfer record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Our support yesterday was sh*t. I've always thought it is a bit boring when other sets of fans sing "you've only got one song" to us but yesterday that was the case. Must have sung it a good 20 times yesterday. Awful effort from both sets of fans. Stoke were very quiet, I didn't hear them sing Delilah once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Decent day out but it was definitely a should, and could, have won fixture. Fluke first goal, just thankful Shawcross failed to connect from 6 yards when it looked easier to score (from a wind assist to concede the corner). Thought our support was a bit tame, but so too was theirs. Find it bizarre they left such great gaps at three corners of the stadium, probably helps create a vortex effect for their high ball hoofing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 You've got to admit it - Alps has a point... Osvaldo has completely gone missing in the last couple of games Few players from Italian football actually make the grade in the PL because the game is completely different, look at Lamela, a 28 million £ sub who doesn't even get on the pitch. If I was a PL recruter I'd never ever buy a player from Italy (or a striker from Holland for that matter, there aren't too many Suarez's but there are a lot of Bonys and Wolfwinkeii:rolleyes:). Name me 5 players from Italy who've actually made the grade for the hundreds of millions we've shipped their way in the last, say, 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 You've got to admit it - Alps has a point... Osvaldo has completely gone missing in the last couple of games Where's osWALDO pmsl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 In Alpine's world a player is gash (lol pmsl) until proved otherwise. Yep, because I said exactly the same about Davis ...and Wanyama ...and Lovren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Question for those who watched on MOTD. Did they show Lovren's Drag Back in their box in the 2nd half? It was a true WTF? did we buy Ronaldo moment? - and to see it from a CB AND one in a Saints shirt will be a classic memory of this season. JRod launching into another Scissor Kick was also an Ole moment - although this time the Defender stopped the ball reaching him. He's gonna get one of those pretty damned soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Our support yesterday was sh*t. I've always thought it is a bit boring when other sets of fans sing "you've only got one song" to us but yesterday that was the case. Must have sung it a good 20 times yesterday.Griffo it sounded great in Tv and the radio. What other great songs have we got??? All the pathetic anti Pompey ones, WTFILN ( I can't ven work out what we are singing a lot of times when that is sung) we are known for OWTS as Liverpool are you'll never walk alone. It sounded superb and I would be more than happy for that to be sung 95per cent of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Ramirez was awful when he came on yesterday. He basically lost us the match. Obviously, I didn't watch the game but I still feel that I can comment on the performance of a player. There is absolutely NOTHING unreasonable about that. Did anyone see MOTD? Linekar was terrible, a really bad anchorman. I mean, I didn't manage to watch it myself but I heard some bad reports about him. The BBC really need to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Ramirez was awful when he came on yesterday. He basically lost us the match. Obviously, I didn't watch the game but I still feel that I can comment on the performance of a player. There is absolutely NOTHING unreasonable about that. Did anyone see MOTD? Linekar was terrible, a really bad anchorman. I mean, I didn't manage to watch it myself but I heard some bad reports about him. The BBC really need to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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