Saint Charlie Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Role: SFC Director of Football Performance,Development and Support. Board Member Time in role: 3-4 years Responsible for: Scouting and Recruitment - You don't improve as much as we have without bringing in a number of excellent players. Clyne for a £3m compensation fee looks more of a steal every game, whilst 2013 saw undoubtedly our best ever transfer window. Sports Medicine and Exercise Science - Superb record over the last 3-4 years, huge reduction in muscle injuries Youth Academy - Second to none in UK football. In Shaw, Chambers and JWP we three massive talents who will surely all play for England - all on long contracts. One of only 2 sides to qualify fo the latter stages both the U18 and U21 leagues last season Management of the Football Development and Support Centre. New, state of the art training facility on the way Kudos to Les Reed. As we know, Nicola Cortese does not suffer fools gladly, so Reed must have impressed him too.
Saint Garrett Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Why have you done this? You know it will go back to a transfer window moan by the cretins! Done a decent job though from what I can see...I'm sure there are plenty of other unsung heroes. We've barely had any injuries over the last 5 years really. Only Chaplow and Lallana I can think of?
Saint Charlie Posted 31 October, 2013 Author Posted 31 October, 2013 Why have you done this? You know it will go back to a transfer window moan by the cretins! Done a decent job though from what I can see...I'm sure there are plenty of other unsung heroes. We've barely had any injuries over the last 5 years really. Only Chaplow and Lallana I can think of? Those "cretins" shouldnt put off a good debate about someone who has taken a lot of stick but clearly delivered well against the objectives he has. Of course there are lots of unsung heroes but not many with as vital a remit as his. Most likely he also had a big say in the two successful managerial changes.
speed demon Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Yeah credit where it's due. As you say, you can rest assured NC would have him up the road if he wasn't happy with him. Another shrewd appointment by NC but yes well done Les Reed you must be doing a sound job - the results would say so anyway.
Colinjb Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Was skeptical at his involvement at first but he seems to be doing a good job. I doubt he would still be here otherwise!
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 He was brought in primarily for an administrative role overseeing the implementation of a proper sports science division, academy set up and international scouting team. Despite his obvious previous failings as a manager it was clear to anyone not on the wind up that we were moving in the right direction under his guidance and that he had a fair amount of knowledge in this area Nobody really can complain about the position we are in now and so obviously he has done his job very well.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I thought he shouldn't be anywhere near a football club? Isn't he some clueless moron, that lucked his way into all his jobs at football clubs and the FA? I'm so confused.
Sour Mash Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 someone who has taken a lot of stick When was this?
stevegrant Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 As was said at the time of his appointment, keep him away from any sort of coaching or first team management and leave him to administration and planning and he'll do alright, he's always been very highly regarded in that area.
Saint Charlie Posted 31 October, 2013 Author Posted 31 October, 2013 (edited) When was this? Are you joking? Type Les Reed into the search bar and see the post above yours for the kind of comments people used to make when he was appointed and shortly after. Here is a start: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?40914-Les-Reed-the-cushiest-job-in-the-world Edited 31 October, 2013 by Saint Charlie
CB Fry Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 No mention of that football administration expert Stevie Gerrard yet? Come on people. Buck up.
Turkish Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 As was said at the time of his appointment, keep him away from any sort of coaching or first team management and leave him to administration and planning and he'll do alright, he's always been very highly regarded in that area. So he's good at shuffling paper, not so good at anything to do with football, yes?
CB Fry Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 So he's good at shuffling paper, not so good at anything to do with football, yes? He's a top, top administrator.
Turkish Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 He's a top, top administrator. We have a world class filing system. It's happening. Our dream is real.
Bearsy Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 We have a world class filing system. It's happening. Our dream is real.
dronskisaint Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 We have a world class filing system. It's happening. Our dream is real. Contrition is difficult huh?
dronskisaint Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 (edited) So he's good at shuffling paper, not so good at anything to do with football, yes? Does the first part not apply to both of you? Edited 31 October, 2013 by dronskisaint typo
aintforever Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 He has to take some credit, but also responsibility for spending £27million on Ramirez and Osvaldo. It's great noshing ourselves off at the moment but it would be fair to remember that Rupert Lowe had us 4th in the Premier League at Christmas one year, and look how that turned out. It would be interesting to compare his net spend with the current lots.
suewhistle Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Cynicism and poor excuses for wit coming to a thread near you? I wonder who? Oh, what a surprise...
stevegrant Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Cynicism and poor excuses for wit coming to a thread near you? I wonder who? Oh, what a surprise... I thought you had him on ignore? At least, that's what you usually say when you reply to him...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 He has to take some credit, but also responsibility for spending £27million on Ramirez and Osvaldo. Is it definitely official that Osvaldo is a poor buy, and that we should offload him?
notnowcato Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Is it definitely official that Osvaldo is a poor buy, and that we should offload him? Yes. Keep up
Saint Charlie Posted 31 October, 2013 Author Posted 31 October, 2013 He has to take some credit, but also responsibility for spending £27million on Ramirez and Osvaldo. It's great noshing ourselves off at the moment but it would be fair to remember that Rupert Lowe had us 4th in the Premier League at Christmas one year, and look how that turned out. It would be interesting to compare his net spend with the current lots. Clearly his net spend was lower, resulting in relegation shortly afterwards.
Turkish Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I thought you had him on ignore? At least, that's what you usually say when you reply to him... I wonder what the director of football is responsible for at Sues football club?
Wes Tender Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I thought you had him on ignore? At least, that's what you usually say when you reply to him... I suspect that Suewhistle is capable of reading exactly the same posts that I read via posters quoting him. The ignore function is farcical when that happens.
captainchris Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 He has to take some credit, but also responsibility for spending £27million on Ramirez and Osvaldo. It's great noshing ourselves off at the moment but it would be fair to remember that Rupert Lowe had us 4th in the Premier League at Christmas one year, and look how that turned out. It would be interesting to compare his net spend with the current lots. This the best most well balanced post of this thread... There was a certain centre half too that didn't even play a game.... Not by any means is this guy covered in glory for our present success.... If Osvaldo doesn't make it that would be 30m spent on three players that were not good enough.... Let's not get carried away with the hype and keep feet on the ground and praise in perspective. Some very good players signed and some very average ones too.......
Wes Tender Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 He's a top, top administrator. As is Cortese. And your point is?
Turkish Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I suspect that Suewhistle is capable of reading exactly the same posts that I read via posters quoting him. The ignore function is farcical when that happens. Why read them? Odd.
Wes Tender Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 This the best most well balanced post of this thread... There was a certain centre half too that didn't even play a game.... Not by any means is this guy covered in glory for our present success.... If Osvaldo doesn't make it that would be 30m spent on three players that were not good enough.... Let's not get carried away with the hype and keep feet on the ground and praise in perspective. Some very good players signed and some very average ones too....... £30 million spent on those players, which could probably be recouped from their resale. The conclusion isn't that those players arent good enough, as they both play for their international teams. Whether they have adapted to playing in English football, or even whether they can adapt to Saint's style of play is more the point. Every major team has brought in players who were deemed to be top quality and who then were not successful for those clubs. Many then went elsewhere and became the players that they had promised to be. All that you can do is look at the bigger picture, which currently shows that the team is better than any Saints team over the past 30 years or so. The players we have recruited recently, together with the core we had and the rising stars of our academy have all played their part in that success. And Les Reid has been integral to a lot of that development, so deserves some credit.
Junior Mullet Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Pleased he and NC seem to be back on terms after the Summer.
hutch Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I suspect that Suewhistle is capable of reading exactly the same posts that I read via posters quoting him. The ignore function is farcical when that happens. This. I have him on ignore, and still have the pleasure of reading a large proportion of his contributions.
hutch Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Les still holds the honour of being the shortest-lived Manager in the Premier League, excluding caretakers.
Deano6 Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I'm gonna pop Turkish on ignore then, as I seem to miss most of his contributions usually.
ottery st mary Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Must admit due to previous experience/info would have been glad to see the back of him....even to the FA at Burton... Peeps who make the decisions...saw some expertise there somewhere...admin ..co-ordinating, managing non footer teams,,,,so good luck to him/them. Well done Uncle Les.......but I still have the same request....stay away from the football squads and leave to Manager/coach and staff. Allow the Manager the decision on who he wants or does not want re Ist team squad. Carry on as we are and all will be dandy.
aintforever Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Is it definitely official that Osvaldo is a poor buy, and that we should offload him? I never said either of them are poor buys, just put our current success into context. We have spent a sh!t load of cash, Lowe got us to 4th at Xmas on a relative shoestring.
CB Fry Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 As is Cortese. And your point is? My point is Les Reed is a top, top administrator.
Turkish Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I'm gonna pop Turkish on ignore then, as I seem to miss most of his contributions usually. I would. One of the most hilarious things about being on peoples ignore list is that certian posters who regularly announce it, still continue to comment and reply on my posts.
Bearsy Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Les Reed was a top, top administrator ...until his sad passing last week RIP
beancounter saint Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 I never said either of them are poor buys, just put our current success into context. We have spent a sh!t load of cash, Lowe got us to 4th at Xmas on a relative shoestring. Sorry to be pedantic, but when was this? The time I remember when Saints were 4th (which led to the famous Strachan quote about going home and looking at Ceefax) was in 03/04 when we drew first 3 then won next 3 (only to lose the following 3). There's a big difference between 4th after 6 games and at Xmas.
aintforever Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Sorry to be pedantic, but when was this? The time I remember when Saints were 4th (which led to the famous Strachan quote about going home and looking at Ceefax) was in 03/04 when we drew first 3 then won next 3 (only to lose the following 3). There's a big difference between 4th after 6 games and at Xmas. We were 4th Xmas day 2003 after beating the Skates 3-0.
doggface Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 Les Reed has clearly done a great job. Also fwiw I am sure he is just part of the transfer committee, not THE transfer committee. Regardless, every club has successes and failures in the market, even SAF.
beancounter saint Posted 31 October, 2013 Posted 31 October, 2013 We were 4th Xmas day 2003 after beating the Skates 3-0. Fair enough. Season certainly went downhill from there!
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