ericofarabia Posted 31 October, 2013 Share Posted 31 October, 2013 Yeah but Chambers is the Eng U19s captain. So is Steven Davis. That is two Intl captains as Bobby referred to. LOL .... MLG, MLG'd !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 31 October, 2013 Share Posted 31 October, 2013 stoke will be a much tougher test than fulham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 October, 2013 Share Posted 31 October, 2013 This will be our toughest game of the season, in my opinion. We did amazing to beat Liverpool, but you need to remember that they were all over the show that day with a random formation that simply didn't work. Utd were just out of any sort of form, as Stoke also proved - almost. Stoke on the other hand are still a tough nut to crack, but they've got a little more verve in their play now and will have some confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 31 October, 2013 Share Posted 31 October, 2013 Stoke on the other hand are still a tough nut to crack, but they've got a little more verve in their play now and will have some confidence. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 This could be our toughest test yet. Sure, Stoke aren't the best side in the league, but look how the like of Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool have struggled to get a result in the last few years. If we're serious about finishing high up the table, then this is one we have to win. Sadly, I think it might end up 2-1 to Stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Not really. Yes really. They are a different prospect this season. Still strong, but more football, less hoof. Taken a while to settle to the new style, but now playing some decent stuff. With string support, they'll be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Yes really. They are a different prospect this season. Still strong, but more football, less hoof. Taken a while to settle to the new style, but now playing some decent stuff. With string support, they'll be tough. They've picked up 2 points from the last 6 games. I reckon we'll comfortably dominate the game, whether we actually score the goals is less certain as usual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 They've picked up 2 points from the last 6 games. I reckon we'll comfortably dominate the game, whether we actually score the goals is less certain as usual! I agree with this. They aren't a very good side. Doesn't mean we will dominate them, or win, but no point hyping them up to be something they are not. They struggle to score goals in the league, and have let in more than in recent seasons. If they try to play from the back it will get them into trouble because the defenders aside from Pieters aren't great on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 They've picked up 2 points from the last 6 games. I reckon we'll comfortably dominate the game, whether we actually score the goals is less certain as usual! I agree with this. They aren't a very good side. Doesn't mean we will dominate them, or win, but no point hyping them up to be something they are not. They struggle to score goals in the league, and have let in more than in recent seasons. If they try to play from the back it will get them into trouble because the defenders aside from Pieters aren't great on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Yes really. They are a different prospect this season. Still strong, but more football, less hoof. Taken a while to settle to the new style, but now playing some decent stuff. With string support, they'll be tough. Agree with this - they looked very good at OT last week and were unlucky to get a point according to many pundits. It will be a really tough test for us, but I think we should be good for a 0-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I think that Stoke away is a very tricky match and a draw will be a good result - a win will be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I would bring Davis in for JWP if he's fit. Rationale is that Davis is better in the interplay around the oppositions box and I don't think this is a game where JWP's crossing and delivery will be as effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I think that Stoke away is a very tricky match and a draw will be a good result - a win will be fantastic. I'd normally take a point away vs anyone, but I wouldn't bite ur hand off this time. Given the circumstances of our respective form, their playing in midweek and the managerial handicap of Mark Hughes, I reckon we have a good chance for the win. Even the dumb bookies have us favourites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Yes really. They are a different prospect this season. Still strong, but more football, less hoof. Taken a while to settle to the new style, but now playing some decent stuff. With string support, they'll be tough. Have a quick browse at their forum. You'll find they're not confident, they're unfit, the atmosphere has been awful at the Brit, and bar turning up for an hour at Old Trafford, they haven't been very good. Was just saying what I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I would bring Davis in for JWP if he's fit. Rationale is that Davis is better in the interplay around the oppositions box and I don't think this is a game where JWP's crossing and delivery will be as effective. JWP is such a good crosser of the ball that his crossing and delivery will always be effective. Without it we may not have got 4 points at OT and Anfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I expect Stoke to go revert to type a bit in this game and try and go long a bit more than they would usually. Playing midweek means preparation won't have been the best and Hughes knows it'll be tough to counter a high pressing game by trying to match it so I think he'll try to use a big out ball when he can and take the pressure off that way. His teams are generally hard to beat anyway and Stoke have been pretty miserly in conceding at home recently so can't see this being a good game for goals - set pieces will be both sides best bet. Hopefully we start the game with the same lineup as against Fulham and the same gameplan - none of the players deserve to be dropped and if Davis and Osvaldo are fit again then the bench looks strong. A similar performance and we'd be very unlucky to lose this one. Just hope we don't try to vary things around and try something new in a bid to outfox the opponents - we're good enough now to go up there and play our own game and let them worry about us. 0-1 Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I expect Stoke to go revert to type a bit in this game and try and go long a bit more than they would usually. Playing midweek means preparation won't have been the best and Hughes knows it'll be tough to counter a high pressing game by trying to match it so I think he'll try to use a big out ball when he can and take the pressure off that way. His teams are generally hard to beat anyway and Stoke have been pretty miserly in conceding at home recently so can't see this being a good game for goals - set pieces will be both sides best bet. Hopefully we start the game with the same lineup as against Fulham and the same gameplan - none of the players deserve to be dropped and if Davis and Osvaldo are fit again then the bench looks strong. A similar performance and we'd be very unlucky to lose this one. Just hope we don't try to vary things around and try something new in a bid to outfox the opponents - we're good enough now to go up there and play our own game and let them worry about us. 0-1 Saints. This makes sense....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Yeah, Revolution has said it really. Stoke will 'go long' rather than play it out along the pitch. They will have Crouch and Anarticulatigo (sp.) calling for high balls, so Lovren and Fonte will need to have a spring in their step. Huth and Shawcross are rough and tough at the back and Rickie will have to contend with holding and elbows. However, I do think our midfield is way superior to theirs, so if we can boss it and dictate the play, we can take this one. I'll take a scrappy 0-1 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Yeah, Revolution has said it really. Stoke will 'go long' rather than play it out along the pitch. They will have Crouch and Anarticulatigo (sp.) calling for high balls, so Lovren and Fonte will need to have a spring in their step. Huth and Shawcross are rough and tough at the back and Rickie will have to contend with holding and elbows. However, I do think our midfield is way superior to theirs, so if we can boss it and dictate the play, we can take this one. I'll take a scrappy 0-1 win. Arnautovic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Arnautovic? This player is holder of the longest current winless streak in Europe's top leagues, fact fans. 18 matches, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 If they play 2 up front they will hoof it & we may struggle, but we can still press their defence to stop the supply. Draw in my opinion 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 If they play 2 up front they will hoof it & we may struggle, but we can still press their defence to stop the supply. Draw in my opinion 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 If they play 2 up front they will hoof it & we may struggle, but we can still press their defence to stop the supply. Draw in my opinion 2-2. One way to defeat a press maybe to play long balls, but Poch knows that. Lovren and Wanyama offer the aggressive physical presence to counter that. If I were an opponent I wouldnt want to play against Saints right now - we've no obvious weaknesses at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 If they play 2 up front they will hoof it & we may struggle, but we can still press their defence to stop the supply. Draw in my opinion 2-2. Can you see us conceding 2 having only conceded 3 so far? 1-1 maybe, 0-0 more likely, yes ... but I don't think we'll let in 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Can you see us conceding 2 having only conceded 3 so far? 1-1 maybe, 0-0 more likely, yes ... but I don't think we'll let in 2. In principle yes, but... Just because we have only let in 3 so far, we could easily let in 2 or 3 in this game if we don't defend well. Of course our defensive record is great, but other teams like Utd, Swansea etc could easily have scored more against us and you are very unlikely to keep this sort of record for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Despite their adverts, all rail ticket websites charge the same prices, except for the small booking fees etc. It is extremely unusual for prices to be different between any websites - they are all identical 99.9% of the time. What may have happened is that the discount for buying early may have changed on the system while you were actually loggged on (this is just unlucky on timing), and the national rail site was just slow in processing the change. It is rare and should not happen - it should be simultaneous. Bore fest over, sorry I guess so, very unlucky though I must say, none of the other prices changed on the other trains IIRC. Not only that, theyve informed us there wont be any free beer in the first class carridge, disgraceful. Can you see us conceding 2 having only conceded 3 so far? 1-1 maybe, 0-0 more likely, yes ... but I don't think we'll let in 2. At the barbours earlier, I predicted a 2-1 Saints victory, "oh wow" he exclaimed "you think youre gonna let one in?"! Our dream is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Hughes: "In terms of individual quality, I don't think there is much difference between the two teams". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Hughes: "In terms of individual quality, I don't think there is much difference between the two teams". How does Hughes explain the difference in our relative league position then? His poor management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 (edited) Hughes: "In terms of individual quality, I don't think there is much difference between the two teams". How does Hughes explain the difference in our relative league position then? His poor management? Edit: fvvcksake Edited 1 November, 2013 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Double posts are so last month bear. Get over yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 JWP is such a good crosser of the ball that his crossing and delivery will always be effective. Without it we may not have got 4 points at OT and Anfield. Without it we did. Lallana took the corner at Liverpool. JWP came on for him for the last 15 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Without it we did. Lallana took the corner at Liverpool. JWP came on for him for the last 15 mins. Without him we got 3 not 4. We are a better side when he plays IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Stoke are still a horrible bunch of thugs. Saw them vs Arsenal at the Emirates a month or so back, and it is so cynical. They were literally taking turns to clatter into Wilshire, who in fairness did give one wild lunge back and was lucky not to see red I thought. They were swinging at Ozil too, but simply couldn't get near him. I'd be tempted to play Davis for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 (edited) Stoke are still a horrible bunch of thugs. Saw them vs Arsenal at the Emirates a month or so back, and it is so cynical. They were literally taking turns to clatter into Wilshire, who in fairness did give one wild lunge back and was lucky not to see red I thought. They were swinging at Ozil too, but simply couldn't get near him. I'd be tempted to play Davis for this reason. Edited 1 November, 2013 by KelvinsRightGlove FFS sort this out. I only pressed it once and sat waiting for it to load for ages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 We've been great on the road. Stoke have only beaten palace at home this season and haven't won in 6. We will destroy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Surprised at the pessimism from some. Saints are a better team than Stoke so it follows that Saints should win. The way we play also seems to negate home advantage. As always in football, there is an element of luck, one side can have one chance and score whilst another can make a dozen chances and have them all close misses or saves, but unless we are very unlucky, I see us winning this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 really hope we win obviously but i think our brilliant run will come to an end just because Stoke are an ugly side to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Will it be the usual black kit? Is it allowed for both teams to have the same colour on the short, I didn´t think so but looking at Sunderland-Newcastle last weekend it seems so now...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Will it be the usual black kit? Is it allowed for both teams to have the same colour on the short, I didn´t think so but looking at Sunderland-Newcastle last weekend it seems so now...?? We both had white shorts at Old Trafford I think didn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 We both had white shorts at Old Trafford I think didn't we? True, didn´t think about that. That answers it then, but I still think it wasn´t allowed some years ago but maybe that changed and that´s why not so many teams have a third kit anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynesparksaint Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Will it be the usual black kit? Is it allowed for both teams to have the same colour on the short, I didn´t think so but looking at Sunderland-Newcastle last weekend it seems so now...?? Newcastle should've worn their away kit. Both teams had white stripes and black shorts, terrible clash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leithsaint Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Osvaldos missus at the albert hall, watching a Ronnie wood concert.......Osvaldo a big rolling stones fan, presume he his there? Surely the rest of the squad will be in a hotel near stoke by now. 2+2 = ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Osvaldos missus at the albert hall, watching a Ronnie wood concert.......Osvaldo a big rolling stones fan, presume he his there? Surely the rest of the squad will be in a hotel near stoke by now. 2+2 = ? 7 He'll feature. And score. Plus we'll win 2-1 Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 7 He'll feature. And score. Plus we'll win 2-1 Probably Dani will not be playing at Stoke (nor Sunderland.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 I fully expect Stoke to try and kick lumps out of us in the first 30 mins. Wouldn't be suprised to see Luke or JWP go off injured within the first 20. I'd be more than happy to come away from that 5h!t hole with as few injuries as possible and a 1-0 win. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 I fully expect Stoke to try and kick lumps out of us in the first 30 mins. Wouldn't be suprised to see Luke or JWP go off injured within the first 20. I'd be more than happy to come away from that 5h!t hole with as few injuries as possible and a 1-0 win. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Had a dream last night we drew 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Far too much respect being shown to Stoke on here. They are bottom half fodder and their form is poor. OK, decent performance against a United side we softened up for them, but they will be tired after ET midweek. If we are at it and we hit our straps, we win convincingly. Two, three or four nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Just about to leave. Fill up at Asda. think maybe 1-0 to Saints. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Dani will not be playing at Stoke (nor Sunderland.) Cheers. Expected back for Hull though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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