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Mr X

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It seems even guly is considered a better impact substitute than Gaston I know we had already tied up the game but surely it was a chance for Gaston to get a run out? Am convinced there is something in the media story's that mp can't stand Gaston and he only made the bench Because of injuries

Mr X

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I hear that Ramirez has upped his workrate on training ground last week and there's been a truce.

 

Sarcasm? Or strange but true? Haha

Mowgli

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The choice simply wasn't there. We wanted someone who could keep the play moving without losing possession. Guly is perfect for that strategy.

Sour Mash

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Would have been a different story if we were chasing the game.
Surely if he's going to be significantly involved for us this season he needs as much game time as possible under his belt. 30mins of the 2nd half would have been ideal.
Saint_clark

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Surely if he's going to be significantly involved for us this season he needs as much game time as possible under his belt. 30mins of the 2nd half would have been ideal.

 

Fulham had a fair bit of possession late in the second half, we needed to keep it solid rather than taking risks.

Turkish

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Fulham had a fair bit of possession late in the second half, we needed to keep it solid rather than taking risks.

 

Behave, they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now.

Saint_clark

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Behave, they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now.

 

Not saying they would have, but bringing on someone who takes risks and gives the ball away quite a lot wouldn't have helped IMO.

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Not saying they would have, but bringing on someone who takes risks and gives the ball away quite a lot wouldn't have helped IMO.

 

I disagree, as I said on the match thread, our back 7 were so dominant I don't think it would have made any difference. To me its pretty evident poch doesn't fancy him.

shurlock

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Surely if he's going to be significantly involved for us this season he needs as much game time as possible under his belt. 30mins of the 2nd half would have been ideal.

 

He's got midweek for that.

verlaine1979

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Guly has been a Poch close-out sub in the past, hasn't he (Chelsea last season rings a bell)? With 12+ mins left and no need of a goal, he's tall and hard-working, so I can understand choosing him over a specialist no. 10 like Gaston.

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It was a good substitution. Guly does offer decent protection for, and work well with, Luke Shaw. Luke was tired and making the odd wayward pass. Rodriguez was shattered, so the substitution with Guly seemed very sensible.

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Perhaps Mr X you should have said Guly and Cork prefered, why single out Guly? I don't see why people have to keep knocking Guly, if it still goes back to that pompey game then give it a rest! Perhaps Guly puts in more effort and shows more commitment in training than Gaston, and deserves a chance?

CHAPEL END CHARLIE

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Guly has Fantastic work rate that's who he was used

 

You are exaggerating.

 

I'm not minded to call him lazy, I never have said that, but to suggests he puts himself about like some hyped up teenager on speed bares no relationship to the truth.

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Guly has been a Poch close-out sub in the past, hasn't he (Chelsea last season rings a bell)? With 12+ mins left and no need of a goal, he's tall and hard-working, so I can understand choosing him over a specialist no. 10 like Gaston.

 

Exactly.- succinct and totally spot on. If you want a stick to beat GR with then its better to use his performances. A non appearance is clutching at straws though.

Guly got on NOT because GR is hated and is rubbish. It's because our manager is shrewd. No EPL is ever a given three points so in that situation it was the best tactical substitution to make. If we were losing the subs might have been different. Second half was mostly about professionally controlling the game.

Tokyo-Saint

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The world has spun on its head. We are in the top 3 and Guly has fantastic work rate. What next? Pompey will be giving money to charities and Turks will be telling us we need a bigger stadium.

lordswoodsaints

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I think we have to trust the managers judgement as his judgement is gold at the moment.

Gaston has produced very little in most games I have watched him and I suspect that this carries on in training sessions,the boy needs to realise that he is being paid a lot of money to perform and to put in the hours on the training pitch to put himself in contention of a place in the match day squad,if he isn't doing that then he deserves to be left out,if he is doing it then there is obviously some other problems going on.

david in sweden

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Some people (MLT was one) aren't known as the best-trained players in the game, but can hold down a place due to their skill, vision and individual contribution to games. (MLT again).

 

Both Gaston, (and to some extent Osvaldo) made their names in Italy, where the game is played in vastly different conditions and where the style of play is quite different from the Prem.

Although Italy has it's " tough guys ", the physicality of the Prem. seems to be something that some players find it hard to adapt to, and haven't shown that same input (so far).

 

I'm not convinced that either of the above cannot make their way in the Prem. but seeing the type of style that MP is playing it's difficult to see that either of them can become a regular name at the moment, especially considering the form of others in the line-up at present.

 

Time will tell, but somewhere along the line serious decisions (soon) will have to be made - if they are to maintain their " market value " in the game, and their contribution to the club's success. Something I'm sure that NC is acutely aware of.

CHAPEL END CHARLIE

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The world has spun on its head. We are in the top 3 and Guly has fantastic work rate. What next? Pompey will be giving money to charities and Turks will be telling us we need a bigger stadium.

 

It's a interesting phenomena isn't it? The more easily suggestible types on here keep seeing others claim that Guly do Pardo holds the ball up well and he is a exceptionally energetic player. This notion takes hold and they subsequently 'see' these qualities in his play even when the evidence to support these assertions is scanty at best.

 

The truth is the Human perception of reality is a hell of a lot more subjective rather than objective, and we often 'see' what we are expecting to see rather that what has actually occurred.

 

For what its worth my (equally subjective) version of reality is that Guly doesn't really hold the ball all that well and neither is he especially energetic for that matter. Not that I expect the massed ranks of the Guly fan club to accept any of that of course.

Turkish

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It's a interesting phenomena isn't it? The more easily suggestible types on here keep seeing others claim that Guly do Pardo holds the ball up well and he is a exceptionally energetic player. This notion takes hold and they subsequently 'see' these qualities in his play even when the evidence to support these assertions is scanty at best.

 

The truth is the Human perception of reality is a hell of a lot more subjective rather than objective, and we often 'see' what we are expecting to see rather that what has actually occurred.

 

For what its worth my (equally subjective) version of reality is that Guly doesn't really hold the ball all that well and neither is he especially energetic for that matter. Not that I expect the massed ranks of the Guly fan club to accept any of that of course.

 

Like your 6 year old boy expecting to see Guly is crap, yes?

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Guly does hold the ball up well, he wasn't dispossessed yesterday and played simple passes that kept us in possession. No prem game with only a two goal advantage with 20 minuets left is risk free.

 

its as about as risk free as you are going to get.

not one game will he we have it as comfortable this season.

 

gaston is supposed to be an international for a top national team etc etc

CHAPEL END CHARLIE

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Like your 6 year old boy expecting to see Guly is crap, yes?

 

As you keep asking me about him I must note that you seem inordinately interested in a (now 7 year-old BTW) opinions. He came, he saw, he told me what he thought. I should leave it at that if I was you.

 

As for Guly, I well know you happen to rate him highly. I dare say you will also remember that his is not a opinion I share.

verlaine1979

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its as about as risk free as you are going to get.

I.e. not risk free at all. Scoring even the jammiest of goals to pull a game back to 2-1 always seems to give the chasing team a massive boost if they manage with 5-10 minutes left on the clock.

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