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MotM vs Fulham (Home 2013/14)  

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  1. 1. MotM vs Fulham (Home 2013/14)

    • Boruc
      1
    • Clyne
      13
    • Shaw
      4
    • Lovren
      6
    • Fonte
      1
    • Wanyama
      41
    • Schneiderlin
      11
    • Ward-Prowse
      29
    • Lallana
      283
    • Rodriguez
      51
    • Lambert
      32
    • Do Prado
      2
    • Cork
      3


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That was top drawer all round. Made a midtable team look like relegation candidates. Demoralized them with the press and but for profligacy it would have been more

 

Boruc 6 not much to do

Shaw 7 not his best game but solid enough. Touch a bit off.

Fonte 7.5 good defending and positioning

Lovren 7.5 tidy as always

Clyne 8 always a threat, worked tirelessly creating angles.

Wanyama 9 bosses it and retained the ball.

Schneiderlin 7.5 tidy enough position.

Rodriguez 8 excellent direct running and unlucky finishing wise.

Lallana 8.5 great skills and running serious danger all game.

Ward-Prowse 8.5 excellent discipline and delivery covered clyne bombing on well.

Lambert 8 took goal well looked lively and was involved in most good things.

 

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Switch Lallana's and Wanyama's scores and this is it.

 

What a performance!

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I keep looking at the table and just can't believe it.

 

I can't remember such a one sided game since the L1/Championship promotion seasons when we went out expecting to win every game.

 

Phenomenal performance.. Rickie scores one and creates the other, Lallana a constant threat, Big Vic bossed it..

 

I'm so proud of this group of players, I'm so proud of the manager and I'm so proud of the fans today! We were bloody loud and gave the boys brilliant support for 90 mins!

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Fonte - Schneiderlin - Lallana - Lambert.

 

All been here since league 1. Incredible.

 

Lest we forget. What a journey! Watched the game in a Brit bar in Warsaw, met an ex pat Saints fan who has followed the Saints as long as me (Ron Davies and Terry Paine - in the chocolate boxes as nippers) with el classico on the other screen - boy did we let rip when the goals went in!!! Just got to love the team performance. As others have said, it is like our league one and championship seasons when we just ripped teams a new one! I'm loving it. Ad all the banter over Osvaldo, etc, who gives a f u c k??? He has joined a premier team and he will have to prove himself at the highest level now. Competition for places is great - strength in depth - isn't that what we want to achieve???

 

As I texted my brother in law - the sky is the limit - could we really be the next Barca/Bayern?? We were that good today, it was amazing to see. COYS!!! God bless Rickie - he's living the dream!

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Keeping the clean sheets and defensive record is clearly important and a gelling mechinism for the whole squad, and that's the way the Coach wants to play...Why take a risk f*cking it up just so you can see another goal or two in garbage time.....Aint gunna happen with this team....You better start to getting used to it.

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/287372/ratings

 

According to the sky ratings, Senderos and Amorbieta were better than Lovren and Fonte. Just think about that a minute.

Really Senderos scoring higher than Dejan and Jose, jeez second half he played like Jol had nipped into Weatherspoons enroute to the game scanned the few Fulham fans in there then did "Ip dip dog sH1t which one is it" and stuck IT in defence!

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Seriously, what's up with this forum tonight. I hope osvaldo comes good,all I've said is that I think he shouldn't necessarily be in team on merit at mo. People need to calm down we are all big saints fans end of the day.

 

Roger, you make a very worthy point. It's a shame that some cannot take any reasoned comment on the team and choose to be personally affronted by the least criticism or opinion that doesn't give every part of the team 100% every game. They are mostly attention seekers searching for a cause to martyr for.... It's sad actually - long may this be an opinion forum not just a fluffy blind pointless round of happy clapping.

The team were brilliant today every one of em. The team were evidently much better without Osvaldo that was obvious today. Lambert is a better player than Osvaldo. Until Osvaldo is up to speed he should not be picked. Players should be picked on merritt and he has not merrited his place in the team.

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Never in any danger, great being a Saints fan right now. But hey, let's focus on which of our top flight strikers is the best, and the other, therefore, is cr@p. Pathetic. Try supporting your club.

 

We all support the club. Maybe you should try to respect the opinions of others.

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OK so I can see the laptop screen a bit clearer this morning. :rolleyes:

 

What a great performance. 10 years of being pretty much crap and embarrassed at times when people asked me who I supported.

 

Pub was absolutely rammed last night with fans watching EL Classico, we had regular our happy corner.

 

Dragged a mate (total neutral) down the pub to watch last night and his comment "Holy Sh1t you were right, you guys really are GOOD"

 

Also enjoyable to note that quite a few of the El Classico crowd watched the last 20 mins of our game as well and came over for a chat along the lines of "How long have you been playing like that?"

 

Totally awesome performance.

 

And absolutely LOVED the fact that we were actually SINGING for a change. Champions League we're 'avin a larf, Red Army and even the SRL song!

 

Totally made the day when the Irish Pub singer stuck a rousing chorus of OWTS into his set at the end of the game. Which then randomly brought a couple of Scandinavian lads into the main bar - Saints fans from Norway (I think) here on holiday hadn't even known the game was on!

 

Crazy night sluggish morning.

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Others have already said it but that was a great performance; total dominance in 1H. We slowed down in the 2H and whatever Fulham gave in the 2H we snuffed out.

 

The last time I saw Saints play with this kind of dominance was in the 83-84 when we finished second in the old D1. We made a few team look average at the Dell.

 

Great all round team performance but today Adam, J-Rod and Ricky stand out.

 

Stood in the Kingsland corner and the atmosphere was great; just like an away game - not sure how it sounded inother parts of the ground but it felt like we were powering out some real noise.

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A pot and kettle moment there, methinks. You must understand Rogers love affair with SRL, then maybe understand why so many are fed up with his infantile comments. That is all.

 

Is there some new cult on here I don't know about? I really don't understand why the thought of osvaldo being on the bench ATM is so outrageous!

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A few observations from the Chapel Stand on what I thought was a superb performance:

 

1 - I can't remember the last time I saw a Saints team work the ball - and then regain possession of it when dispossessed - with such speed, skill or conviction. If there was a 50/50 ball to be won yesterday then (more often than not) a player in red won it ... oh and that Wanyama is a beast.

 

2 - Artur Borac is clearly a top class keeper, but to be frank about it I could have played in goal yesterday and we would still have won comfortably so resolutely do this team defend as a unit - all of them that is. It's no accident our defensive record is one of the very best in European football - it's down to how well MP has drilled his players.

 

3 - I don't suppose many on here who would dare to criticize the effort Steve Davis has been putting in for this team recently. However, on this form James Ward-Prowse surely cannot be denied a regular starting place for much longer. I must admit that I thought the praise lavished on him early last season was a bit OTT, but look at him now and you can see a future (full) England International in the making.

 

4 - Contrary to some opinions expressed on here, I think Adam Lallana has (very) seldom put in a unsatisfactory performance for this club. The form he is in right now however is on a different level frankly - we're lucky to have him.

 

5 - Fulham traditionally seldom 'travel well' as they say. But I don't suppose their handful of away fans see them dispatched quite as ruthlessly as this all that often because we took them to pieces with almost embarrassing ease at time yesterday. A teams second season back in the Premier League is often turns out to be as problematic - if not more so - than their first. Our 'difficult second album' on the other hand seems to be turning out very nicely indeed.

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Is there some new cult on here I don't know about? I really don't understand why the thought of osvaldo being on the bench ATM is so outrageous!

 

I would certainly start Osvaldo on the bench for the next match. But with the expectation that he would come on and see a decent amount of game time. Rickie looked knackered just before half time yesterday, and definitely faded quickly in the second. More than understandable given the tempo we were playing at and the job he was being asked to do. I thought the team as a whole started to look ragged by 60-65 minutes and, had he been fit, Osvaldo would have been perfect to come on at that point to dial the pressure back up on the Fulham back 3, stretch the game and force possession back around the Fulham penalty area.

 

I suspect what many tire of on here is the rampant myopia of some opinions. Players are apparently either amazing or useless. The reality is that both of our strikers will/should have significant parts to play for us over the season. Sometimes it will be Lambert first, sometimes Osvaldo, sometimes both. And that's okay.

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Please no! Send him back to Italy.

 

Bit harsh, yesterday was great, but we have a lot of fixtures coming up soon, and watching Osvaldo, I can not understand how people don't rate him. He is class, and its a squad game, we need a strong bench, and we need to be able to keep everyone on their feet, the fear factor. Just watch the effort JWP put in yesterday, he wants to start, and should start the next game, taking his chance. If he takes a knock, or when Osvaldo starts, he knows the bar has been set high, and needs to perform.

 

If their was no competition for places, we could end up with a Berbartov! OK, bit much that :)

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2 - Artur Borac is clearly a top class keeper, but to be frank about it I could have played in goal yesterday and we would still have won comfortably so resolutely do this team defend as a unit - all of them that is. It's no accident our defensive record is one of the very best in European football - it's down to how well MP has drilled his players.

 

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Boruc deals with crosses and corners incredibly well, cuts out the danger before it can even start, true it's part of the job and any top keeper should do it all of the time but we've had a couple who didn't or couldn't. He also has the art of giving the lads a 30 second breather without getting gee'd up by the ref for time wasting.Important towards the end of the game yesterday because our midfield was looking knackered and getting a bit ragged which is entirely normal after 80 minutes of high intensity effort.

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/287372/ratings

 

According to the sky ratings, Senderos and Amorbieta were better than Lovren and Fonte. Just think about that a minute.

 

I guess they are going by the logic that Fulham were so ineffective at getting past our midfield that Dejan and Jose really didn't have that much to do, whereas Senderos and Amorebieta did pretty well to restrict the scoreline to only 2-0.

 

That's the only reasoning I can think of for it. But then they've only given Schneiderlin a 6 and both the Fulham CMs a 7! What the actual f**k!?

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Boruc deals with crosses and corners incredibly well, cuts out the danger before it can even start, true it's part of the job and any top keeper should do it all of the time but we've had a couple who didn't or couldn't. He also has the art of giving the lads a 30 second breather without getting gee'd up by the ref for time wasting.Important towards the end of the game yesterday because our midfield was looking knackered and getting a bit ragged which is entirely normal after 80 minutes of high intensity effort.

 

It is good to see a keeper catch the ball and deal with crosses with such authority, mind you he will have a tougher test against Stoke. If he does as well in those types of games we will certainly keep marching on.

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I guess they are going by the logic that Fulham were so ineffective at getting past our midfield that Dejan and Jose really didn't have that much to do, whereas Senderos and Amorebieta did pretty well to restrict the scoreline to only 2-0.

 

That's the only reasoning I can think of for it. But then they've only given Schneiderlin a 6 and both the Fulham CMs a 7! What the actual f**k!?

 

5 Fulham players got a 7......go figure :)

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Some are saying that players should be sent back to Italy because they are not playing well/ not in the team

 

Maybe those same people say we can't hold onto champs league spots once injuries and suspensions kick in.

 

Maybe our squad is stronger than we think. Gaston and Dani will have big parts to play.

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Just a small maybe insignificant observation from yesterday.

 

Gastons body language. He was first out at HT to warm up (rather than ambling out last). He was running about and just seemed more up for it. Not sure about the hair cut tho

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Brilliant first half, outstanding play all round...

 

2nd half we took our foot off the gas (bet Fulham were glad) and contained

any slight attempt by Fulham to get back in the game

 

Hard to single out anyone for MOM as all did their jobs superbly, but gave it to Adam as i felt he just edged it

 

But yet again after a good performance and obtaining third spot (be it only for a day) we still

have some odd fans wanting to attack a player not even in squad today....bewildering...

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Some are saying that players should be sent back to Italy because they are not playing well/ not in the team

 

Maybe those same people say we can't hold onto champs league spots once injuries and suspensions kick in.

 

Maybe our squad is stronger than we think. Gaston and Dani will have big parts to play.

I think only one poster on here as said he should be sent back to Italy, hardly a theme on here.
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Maybe our squad is stronger than we think. Gaston and Dani will have big parts to play.

 

Well, we have spent "£68m on those young high energy players" dontya know?

 

http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/iexpensep?topic=33480.0

 

We won't mention that while our academy products were instrumental in destroying the opposition, our 2 most expensive £12m signings were either not involved or sat on the bench.

 

*Good analysis of us in the OP there tho, Arsenal may give us a few more problems with their slick passing game.

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What a class performance! We dominated and had we scored more goals could have made the claim for annihilating Fulham. I truly take my hat of in praise of what Pochettino's achieving, of the style he's got the team playing. We were a team, a unity that bonded and played for each other. Elsewhere it was pointed out that Osvaldo plays for himself. He needs time to get his mind into the Saints togetherness and playing. If I can make one observation about something that Adkins did with incoming strikers that can be applied to Osvaldo to get him better understanding how Saints play, it's sticking them out on the wing. He did it with Ricky, with Jay. with Lee and with Sharp. It taught them much and today we see the benefits in how each, car Sharp, reverts from time to time out onto the wing, to get more involved in a game.

In mentioning Lee, I was sad that Gully got on to play when Lee really deserves being involved. Yesterday's game, where we totally dominated. would have been the ideal opportunity for him.

 

Thank you to Pochettino, his assistants and backroom team and each and every player for a truly entertaining and inspiring match.

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I'm so proud of this team, can it get any better than this?!

 

Potentially yes - probably no (perhaps not teh strngth in depth yet to maintain the standards we are capable of during a full season...but we shall see)

 

Was a great performance from the whole team, against a side that had no idea how to cope with our tactical game, and as MP said, the players deserve the credit because they worked so hard as a unit - that part is working well.

 

 

Also clear that we can get better and gell more as a SQUAD and we are still not quite there yet lacking a bit of strength in depth that we will need as the season progresses. Some folk on here still seem to think like playground tacticians - asuming its all about starting 11 - but as we see with the bigger and better sides, its about the squad and how easily players can come in and fit within the system and maintain the levels the 'first 11' attain.

 

NOt sure why some are obsessed with Osvaldo v Lambert - and who should start ahead of the other. Two things here. RL has been a majestic part of this side for 4 years and his contribution in that time has been outstanding - whatever the future holds, he is nigh on legend status for his effort, goals and general all round leadership and attitude. In the prem, at times, the pace has meant that he is not always able to get a hold of his game, but his effort never wains.

 

Osvaldo came with a hefty price tag for our levels - and so naturally the expectation is high. He has not yet adapted to the combination of the the prem and the tactical systems that MP wants to establish - not one but several. Clear to me, that we have not yet come up with a system that allows us to play tehm both and get the best out of both. But you cant dismiss Osvaldo as 'not being as good as Lambert v Fulham' - as Fulham were awful and I suspect that Osvaldo may have gotten on the score sheet yesterday had he played.

 

For all the talk of pressing yesterday, I thought we pressed less than at Man U - tactically we seem to press higher up and to a higher degree away from home - and that will be in MPs thinking when selecting sides - as well as injuries of course. RL even in great form, will not start all games - will depend on what MP has in mind tactically - and it wont always work, thats the nature of the game.

 

I am not sure why some of you have such negative attitudes to Osvaldo and worse towards Ramierez - they are our players who have as yet not reached the heights we would like, but like at work, when I see staff struggling, its about supporting identifying areas they need to work on and supporting their development, not dismissing as no hopers.... well decent managers do anyway.

 

We know we need at least 3 decent strikers - and with a bit of luck Osvaldo will come good and deliever. Mid field is trickier as we have more riches - even Cork cant get a game right now, and Ramierez gets less opportunities to get with the pace and physicality of the prem...which I think is his problem. HIs ability to read a pass is better than anyone else we have, but he is still bundled out of it to frequently. We would all love to see a player with Wayama's physicallity and Ramierez's skills, but 80mil would be cheap for such a player!

 

Give it time, give it support and recognise its not about who is better, but its a squad game and our players deserve that support - perhaps even more so when struggling than when doing majestic things as they did yesterday.

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Potentially yes - probably no (perhaps not teh strngth in depth yet to maintain the standards we are capable of during a full season...but we shall see)

 

Was a great performance from the whole team, against a side that had no idea how to cope with our tactical game, and as MP said, the players deserve the credit because they worked so hard as a unit - that part is working well.

 

 

Also clear that we can get better and gell more as a SQUAD and we are still not quite there yet lacking a bit of strength in depth that we will need as the season progresses. Some folk on here still seem to think like playground tacticians - asuming its all about starting 11 - but as we see with the bigger and better sides, its about the squad and how easily players can come in and fit within the system and maintain the levels the 'first 11' attain.

 

NOt sure why some are obsessed with Osvaldo v Lambert - and who should start ahead of the other. Two things here. RL has been a majestic part of this side for 4 years and his contribution in that time has been outstanding - whatever the future holds, he is nigh on legend status for his effort, goals and general all round leadership and attitude. In the prem, at times, the pace has meant that he is not always able to get a hold of his game, but his effort never wains.

 

Osvaldo came with a hefty price tag for our levels - and so naturally the expectation is high. He has not yet adapted to the combination of the the prem and the tactical systems that MP wants to establish - not one but several. Clear to me, that we have not yet come up with a system that allows us to play tehm both and get the best out of both. But you cant dismiss Osvaldo as 'not being as good as Lambert v Fulham' - as Fulham were awful and I suspect that Osvaldo may have gotten on the score sheet yesterday had he played.

 

For all the talk of pressing yesterday, I thought we pressed less than at Man U - tactically we seem to press higher up and to a higher degree away from home - and that will be in MPs thinking when selecting sides - as well as injuries of course. RL even in great form, will not start all games - will depend on what MP has in mind tactically - and it wont always work, thats the nature of the game.

 

I am not sure why some of you have such negative attitudes to Osvaldo and worse towards Ramierez - they are our players who have as yet not reached the heights we would like, but like at work, when I see staff struggling, its about supporting identifying areas they need to work on and supporting their development, not dismissing as no hopers.... well decent managers do anyway.

 

We know we need at least 3 decent strikers - and with a bit of luck Osvaldo will come good and deliever. Mid field is trickier as we have more riches - even Cork cant get a game right now, and Ramierez gets less opportunities to get with the pace and physicality of the prem...which I think is his problem. HIs ability to read a pass is better than anyone else we have, but he is still bundled out of it to frequently. We would all love to see a player with Wayama's physicallity and Ramierez's skills, but 80mil would be cheap for such a player!

 

Give it time, give it support and recognise its not about who is better, but its a squad game and our players deserve that support - perhaps even more so when struggling than when doing majestic things as they did yesterday.

 

Agree entirely with this.

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If this was a boxing match, either their corner would have thrown in the towel, or the referee would have stopped the fight. I'm hard pressed to remember a more one-sided match, unless it was against a team from the lower divisions and even then many put up more fight than Fulham did.

 

But every player in our team put in a great performance and when everything clicks for us like that, I doubt that many teams could live with us. It was becoming almost embarrassing reading all the praise in the media and all the blogs, but after this performance, it is going to continue unabated. Hansen & Savage were very complimentary and when Arsenal's fixtures for the next few matches was reviewed and Hansen doubted that they could maintain their current dominance, we were highlighted as a very difficult fixture for them. Since when have we been a difficult fixture to the top four or five clubs? Well, since we beat Liverpool at Anfield and drew with Man Ure at Old Trafford and since we have a better defensive record over these 9 games than every team in British football, and Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and all the other European teams apart from Roma.

 

Earlier on, this strategy of Pochettino's seemed flawed, because there are ways that our high-pressing line can be countered tactically. But somehow it seems that most teams are unable to figure it out. If they park the bus in front of goal, it requires a very good defence, which not many have, or it requires very quick players to hit us on the break, again something that not many teams have. And even then, our defence has mostly covered that eventuality so far.

 

So long as we can keep this first choice team fit and free from suspensions, then we may continue at this level in the division. But even with an injury or two, it does seem that there is still some very able cover for most positions and if we are anywhere near this high up come January, we can strengthen further.

 

Do we fear playing any team at the moment? Our players are confident in their abilities and it is so gratifying after all these years of supporting the Saints that there are the beginnings of a significant shift in attitudes so that when teams look at their forthcoming fixture list, they look at playing us with some trepidation and respect.

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Cant see it' date=' as Think MP will play second string with focus on League... can see us going out v Sunderland. Akways nice to win a trophy, but not sure we have teh strngth in depth yet to keep pushing in teh League Cup, with FA cup still to come.[/quote']

 

Why did Swansea have the strength in depth to push for it and we don't?

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i dunno that we'll see a worse set up team at SMS this season than Fulham. They was beaten before the first whistle IMO. I heard Martin Jol getting interviewed bout the first goal, he said that during the game they suddenly realised it would be a good idea to have someone mark Lambert at corners, so as Berbatov was the spare man he asked Parker to let him know. "Maybe we should have thought about it before the match," said Jol.

 

No shit Jol! Can you imagine! I was angar bout it and I'm not even Fulham fan. Alpine-Cottager must be spitting feathers yo!

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