Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Excellent praise from G Nev, who I have quoted in the title, and Carra on MNF tonight! I imagine there will be a clip on Sly Sports website on it at some point. They both agree that the team are superbly drilled and the way we are playing is down to hours of hard work and drilling on the training field. Poch's influence shining through. Lovren and Schneiderlin singled out as stand out players at the weekend. Great stuff...many years as a Saints and I'm just not used to this! Long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Posted the same on the MOTD thread - they were full of praise for us and in particular for MP and the pressing game and change in attitude he has instilled in the team. Really big praise for Lovren who they called a top-class defender and Morgan as you say - GNev saying he was surprised that a top side hadn't come in and bought MS although he believed that we wouldn't sell him. Also, amusing to see them comparing to the car crash at the Stadium of Light - Sunderland were three points ahead of us when MP took charge. We also have the second best defensive record in any of the top 5 leagues in Europe, just behind Roma who have only conceded one. Great to hear, from two pundits who actually know what they are on about and understand modern football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Neville said we're up there with Bayern at the level of defending. With the back four and VW and Morgan. Said he was very surprised that no one came in for Morgan in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 This is all starting to get a tad surreal now. I know I predicted 4th this season but didn't expect this level of plaudits so soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again Step forward Osvaldo.. maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again MOTD don't have the time Sky have. Actually Shearer has been making same points that carragher and Neville have it is just he isn't popular so everyone slags him. Hansen is not as bad as people make out either. Shearer did a piece last year at Old Trafford about change in style and pressing soon after MP took over but nobody was calling him an insightful genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Anyone able to stick it on Youtube? Does it get repeated at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again Well they're wrong there I reckon. It's a bit more creativity from our three behind the striker that we need to step up a level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again Not sure about the Munich part but they are bang on about what the missing piece of the jigsaw is. I sooooooooooo hope its Osvaldo. Tuned in especially too see if Ed Chamberlain could get us some coverage and the boy came through... excellent coverage and analysis from a passionate player in Carragher and an intelligent player in Neville. Excellent stuff from SKY it has to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again Well they're wrong there I reckon. It's a bit more creativity from our three behind the striker that we need to step up a level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" and then pep guardiola come on and said that if he could of got barcelona to play like us he would never have left them, then pele come on and said the one regret from his career is that he never got play for southampton srsly, it's getting embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Well they're wrong there I reckon. It's a bit more creativity from our three behind the striker that we need to step up a level. I have to agree a little but I thought the supporting line behind Osvaldo gave him the ball in some great positions on Saturday. His touch let him down once or twice and I just think he is still adjusting to the time (you don't get) on the ball. Hopefully he gets this sorted and starts firing them in from all angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Not sure about the Munich part but they are bang on about what the missing piece of the jigsaw is. I sooooooooooo hope its Osvaldo. Tuned in especially too see if Ed Chamberlain could get us some coverage and the boy came through... excellent coverage and analysis from a passionate player in Carragher and an intelligent player in Neville. Excellent stuff from SKY it has to be said. I don't think its a striker that is the missing piece, we've two good proven goalscorers in the squad. The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances. We are superb defensively, have an excellent keeper, two good strikers but IMO we are that creative attacking midfielder away from being a real force. The problem is there aren't many around who are affordable for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 I don't think he said we are top class striker he said if we had same quality of players as top teams with our style we woudl be up there with Bayern and barca. Might be wrong though but would be ludicrous to suggest we are one player away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonball Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 The highest praise I've ever heard Saints receive from a pundit. It was like listening to Saints fans down the pub at closing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 and then pep guardiola come on and said that if he could of got barcelona to play like us he would never have left them, then pele come on and said the one regret from his career is that he never got play for southampton srsly, it's getting embarrassing. Pele did play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie61163 Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 great piece in The Irish Times of all things.............. Southampton were underdogs who did not behave like underdogs. The chairmen of almost every other Premier League club must have been looking enviously at Mauricio Pochettino’s side and wondering why their own managers can’t seem to get their players to perform with such focus, energy and cohesion. In a league where the managers are relentlessly overexposed, Pochettino remains a slightly enigmatic character, owing to his refusal so far to speak English in public. It is clear, however, that he has succeeded in capturing the imagination of his Southampton players. You could see that from the merciless chasing they gave Manchester United throughout the second half on Saturday. It’s not easy to play the way Southampton do. There is nothing in football more demanding, physically and mentally, than pressing the opponent high up the pitch. Still, it’s hard to imagine that Southampton’s players walked off the pitch at Old Trafford exhausted. Pochettino’s success shows that players respond to a manager who offers them blood, toil, tears and sweat – at least until success makes them decadent. Southampton are fourth in the table, having conceded three goals in eight league games. Eight games into last season they had conceded 24 goals. The signings of Victor Wanyama and Dejan Lovren have surely helped, but this is largely the same squad Nigel Adkins was working with this time last year. One hopes the FAI are taking heed of what’s happening at Southampton. They’re punching above their weight thanks to a game plan that makes sense and a manager who has succeeded in instilling a sense of fearlessness and enterprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Higginbotham was on 5live earlier and singled out Wanyama as being the game changer for us. So it shows pundits are picking players at random and running with the we are the new Bayern story. #bandwagon #letsseecomexmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Step forward Osvaldo.. maybe Not forgetting Tadanari Lee who has scored twice for the U21s tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Anyone able to stick it on Youtube? Does it get repeated at all? http://m.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/jamie-carragher-compares-southampton-to-the-old-ac-milan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 I don't think its a striker that is the missing piece, we've two good proven goalscorers in the squad. The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances. We are superb defensively, have an excellent keeper, two good strikers but IMO we are that creative attacking midfielder away from being a real force. The problem is there aren't many around who are affordable for us. That is true. We are not far away though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Anyone got the whole piece recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 I don't think its a striker that is the missing piece, we've two good proven goalscorers in the squad. The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances. We are superb defensively, have an excellent keeper, two good strikers but IMO we are that creative attacking midfielder away from being a real force. The problem is there aren't many around who are affordable for us. Banega maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 [video=youtube_share;lrb--Ye1gqQ]http://youtu.be/lrb--Ye1gqQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Oops duplicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances I agree to an extent if we could only breed Davis and Ramirez we'd have a player to fill that void. Saying that I still think Osvaldo should of done better with his chances on Saturday. He's not going to get too many opportunities against the top 6 teams. He looked a little forlorn on Saturday having watched the full match again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 I agree to an extent if we could only breed Davis and Ramirez we'd have a player to fill that void. Saying that I still think Osvaldo should of done better with his chances on Saturday. He's not going to get too many opportunities against the top 6 teams. He looked a little forlorn on Saturday having watched the full match again. The player you describe is Oscar. Saying that. OxO prefers to play down the middle. That hard working No. 10 role here would be perfect for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 If only we'd have got Coutinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 I don't think he said we are top class striker he said if we had same quality of players as top teams with our style we woudl be up there with Bayern and barca. Might be wrong though but would be ludicrous to suggest we are one player away Messi might get us close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 If only we'd have got Coutinho. Yeah he has the right amount of nastiness and guile too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Absolutely love the Neville/Carragher piece. Totally awesome. I have been supporting Saints for almost 50 years and I do not remember two such knowledgable pundits praising us this much. Living the dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 I don't think its a striker that is the missing piece, we've two good proven goalscorers in the squad. The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances. We are superb defensively, have an excellent keeper, two good strikers but IMO we are that creative attacking midfielder away from being a real force. The problem is there aren't many around who are affordable for us. This. We're relying heavily on Lallana - and as class as he is, that means we have to hope he stays fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again almost. think what he was actually saying is that if you took the top players from the top clubs and got them playing the same as Saints then you have a team to match Bayern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Step forward Banega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 2nd best defence in Europe's top 5 leagues !! Only behind Roma. Bayern Munich and PSG 4th and 5th. Now that's a stat.... Team. Goals conceded Roma. 1 Saints. 3 Lille. 4 Bayern Munich. 4 PSG. 5 Great interview with Carra and Neville with Ed in the middle salivating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Well they're wrong there I reckon. It's a bit more creativity from our three behind the striker that we need to step up a level. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 I don't think its a striker that is the missing piece, we've two good proven goalscorers in the squad. The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances. We are superb defensively, have an excellent keeper, two good strikers but IMO we are that creative attacking midfielder away from being a real force. The problem is there aren't many around who are affordable for us. Have to agree with that. MAYBE Gaston can knuckle down and deliver in a few weeks. What COULD we achieve if he becomes the real deal? As it is all this is (as Lord Trousers says) Surreal. Christ. When I think back to the day of the 1st Forum Match, sitting in the (free) Car Park at SMS with my lad eating our Fish & Chips & thinking we would never watch a game there again............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Very nice to hear such nice things from good pundits. However, Neville didn't say we were a decent striker away from being Bayern. He said add our level of defending and pressing along with someone like Schneiderlin in midfield, to a team like United or City and you'd have Bayern. Essentially, Man U need to sign Lovren, Clyne, Shaw, Schneiderlin and get MP in as coach and they might win the Champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Very nice to hear such nice things from good pundits. However, Neville didn't say we were a decent striker away from being Bayern. He said add our level of defending and pressing along with someone like Schneiderlin in midfield, to a team like United or City and you'd have Bayern. Essentially, Man U need to sign Lovren, Clyne, Shaw, Schneiderlin and get MP in as coach and they might win the Champions league. It we could just sign Vidic, Carrick, that Turkish/Bosnian/Serb/French/English bloke, Nani, Welbeck, Rooney & RVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 21 October, 2013 Share Posted 21 October, 2013 Which got me thinking, who would you actually take from United for a best XI? -------------Boruc Clyne--Evans--Lovren--Shaw ----Wanyama--Schneiderlin Lallana-----------------Januzaj ------------Rooney -------------RVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 (edited) Remember guys: just cause it tickles our scrotes doesn't mean it's true! (What's scary is I think most of this hysteria has some basis in reality, though) Edited 22 October, 2013 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 He also said "they're a top class striker away from being a Bayern Munich, they're that good" Quality of sky's punditry peeing all over MOD again We already have two that are capable of doing the job but as others have said they need the service. At this moment in time I'd like to see either Gaston getting a run out or Ricky being given the role in the hole. Ossie's undoubted talents are being somewhat squandered with the service at the moment. I guess this was the position that Banega would have filled had we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 we is so hipster club right now! We're like the british borussia dortmund, or the english swansea. We is a lot of new fans in london coffee shops, wearing non-prescription glasses, retro blazers + pink socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 I don't think its a striker that is the missing piece, we've two good proven goalscorers in the squad. The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances. We are superb defensively, have an excellent keeper, two good strikers but IMO we are that creative attacking midfielder away from being a real force. The problem is there aren't many around who are affordable for us. That's the galling part. Ramirez would be superb and would link with Osvaldo well, but he's just not fancied for some reason. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 I don't think its a striker that is the missing piece, we've two good proven goalscorers in the squad. The missing piece is what Ramirez was meant to be, that creative player who can do something a little different. We don't create many clear cut chances. We are superb defensively, have an excellent keeper, two good strikers but IMO we are that creative attacking midfielder away from being a real force. The problem is there aren't many around who are affordable for us. That's the galling part. Ramirez would be superb and would link with Osvaldo well, but he's just not fancied for some reason. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 That's the galling part. Ramirez would be superb and would link with Osvaldo well, but he's just not fancied for some reason. :-( He's simply not been performing, he gives the ball away so much. I personally feel it is a lack of pace to pull a defence around rather than a lack of creativity. We have players who can put in a nice through ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 and then pep guardiola come on and said that if he could of got barcelona to play like us he would never have left them, then pele come on and said the one regret from his career is that he never got play for southampton srsly, it's getting embarrassing. Being good is getting embarrassing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 Which got me thinking, who would you actually take from United for a best XI? -------------Boruc Clyne--Evans--Lovren--Shaw ----Wanyama--Schneiderlin Lallana-----------------Januzaj ------------Rooney -------------RVP I wouldn't take Evans. Maybe Phil Jones for CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 22 October, 2013 Share Posted 22 October, 2013 Evans is a very decent ball playing CB, would be a great fit for us IMO. Wouldn't have many of their other players though - especially if you've got one eye on the future. Centre midfield ? No chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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