Roy Hodgson in race row?!

[pap]

I don't think I've ever seen that used as a sign of blokey respect.

 

Possibly because you've never been accorded any.

 

I've heard that word used as a verb ​in certain parts of Southampton.

[hypochondriac]

Dan Walker ‏@mrdanwalker

Now this will annoy a lot of you but... it has become clear that there is more to this Hodgson story than meets the eye.

 

Dan Walker ‏@mrdanwalker

I am unable to relay the whole story but the 'truth', although not damning, is apparently different to what we are being told.

 

If it isn't damning and the player in question is not offended then it is still a total non story

[hypochondriac]

Possibly because you've never been accorded any.

 

I've heard that word used as a verb ​in certain parts of Southampton.

 

Well I hope not to receive any blokey respect from the type of person who considers c*nt an acceptable word for everyday use.

[pap]

Well I hope not to receive any blokey respect from the type of person who considers c*nt an acceptable word for everyday use.

 

I wondered aloud who would get upset about this sort of thing.

 

Now I know.

[Monkou]

"I'd like to apologise for singing "Feed the Goat and he will score" in the past.I really hope Shaun Goater never thought he was a goat"

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

Is it still OK to liken Gareth Bale to a monkey?

[hypochondriac]

I wondered aloud who would get upset about this sort of thing.

 

Now I know.

 

Odd that you think I'm upset. I just tend to think that liberal use of the word c*nt says a lot about the person who considers that acceptable.

[pap]

Odd that you think I'm upset. I just tend to think that liberal use of the word c*nt says a lot about the person who considers that acceptable.

 

Hypo; one of the offended.

 

Dragged out into the light of day.

[hypochondriac]

Hypo; one of the offended.

 

Dragged out into the light of day.

 

Yep I get offended when someone uses the word c*nt frequently in public. I don't think that's acceptable.

 

I've already given my views on this supposed race row.

[Bearsy]

If it's any consolation I think ur both c*nts

[pap]

If it's any consolation I think ur both c*nts

 

It is, actually.

 

It means we're on the same side in this debate, y'c*nt.

[pap]

Yep I get offended when someone uses the word c*nt frequently in public. I don't think that's acceptable.

 

I've already given my views on this supposed race row.

 

So in essence, you're exactly the same as people getting offended over the use of "feed the monkey". You've just got different buttons.

[Bearsy]

yeah to be fair i knew what you meant, you have to be pretty good mates with someone to take liberty of calling them c*nt. I quite often call my mates c*nt, but I don't generally use it with strangers. I don't get lift from taxi, pay him his money and then go "Thanks c*nt," on exiting cab.

[pap]

yeah to be fair i knew what you meant, you have to be pretty good mates with someone to take liberty of calling them c*nt. I quite often call my mates c*nt, but I don't generally use it with strangers. I don't get lift from taxi, pay him his money and then go "Thanks c*nt," on exiting cab.

 

That is wise, and for all their shandy-dodging toughness, don't say it around Northerners. They have not yet played with the word enough. Same thing goes for Americans.

[scotty]

yeah to be fair i knew what you meant, you have to be pretty good mates with someone to take liberty of calling them c*nt. I quite often call my mates c*nt, but I don't generally use it with strangers. I don't get lift from taxi, pay him his money and then go "Thanks c*nt," on exiting cab.

 

Spot on as usual from bearsy. It's actually a mark of respect that you feel you can call your mate a c*nt, you know he wont take offence and he knows you know it. Of course hypo's right, you wouldn't splatter the term around with people you don't know, that would be plain rude.

 

Getting back to the Hodgson thing though, if those were his actual words I can see why some would be uncomfortable with his comment. I'm prepared to accept it was a joke about a space mission I'd never heard before, but that seems kind of tenuous to me. And would the posters defending the comment think its ok to chuck bananas at players?

[Batman]

Can we still call them lot "skates"?

[scotty]

Can we still call them lot "skates"?

 

Nope, from here on in you are bound by law to call them "c*nts".

[hypochondriac]

So in essence, you're exactly the same as people getting offended over the use of "feed the monkey". You've just got different buttons.

 

Not sure what feed the monkey is but if you mean cheeky monkey then no I consider that a completely different issue. Using c*nt frequently in public is markedly different from someone saying cheeky monkey.

[pap]

Spot on as usual from bearsy. It's actually a mark of respect that you feel you can call your mate a c*nt, you know he wont take offence and he knows you know it. Of course hypo's right, you wouldn't splatter the term around with people you don't know, that would be plain rude.

 

Of course, a pre-requisite for all of the above is "mates".

 

Perhaps that's why hypo don't get it

 

*meow*

[pap]

Not sure what feed the monkey is but if you mean cheeky monkey then no I consider that a completely different issue. Using c*nt frequently in public is markedly different from someone saying cheeky monkey.

 

So basically, you didn't even read the article that this thread is about?

 

Hodgson, when referring to his second half tactics, used the term "feed the monkey" in reference to getting the ball to Townsend.

 

Epic fail, hypo - even by your standards.

[hypochondriac]

So basically, you didn't even read the article that this thread is about?

 

Hodgson, when referring to his second half tactics, used the term "feed the monkey" in reference to getting the ball to Townsend.

 

Epic fail, hypo - even by your standards.

 

Of course I read the article but I didn't realise that feed the monkey was the specific term people were offended about.

[pap]

Of course I read the article but I didn't realise that feed the monkey was the specific term people were offended about.

 

Ok, so you read it, but didn't remember any of it? Specifically the key bit.

 

Fair enough.

[hypochondriac]

yeah to be fair i knew what you meant, you have to be pretty good mates with someone to take liberty of calling them c*nt. I quite often call my mates c*nt, but I don't generally use it with strangers. I don't get lift from taxi, pay him his money and then go "Thanks c*nt," on exiting cab.

 

Yep. Nothing wrong with using it amongst mates when people are joking and know the boundaries. Completely different using it liberally in public, certainly when children are around.

[Solid Saint]

It seems like typical spiteful ****** from the press tbh. They couldn't find too much to slag off about the game (yay we are going to Brazil) so they thought they would make a big deal out of this ****e.

 

Very sad indeed. Bunch of c***s (and not in the matey way)

[pap]

Yep. Nothing wrong with using it amongst mates when people are joking and know the boundaries. Completely different using it liberally in public, certainly when children are around.

 

I reckon the fact that you don't use it, or more accurately, don't get to use it, is around 90% of your problem.

 

Is this attempt at public pap reprimand going as well as you'd hoped?

[Bearsy]

Yep. Nothing wrong with using it amongst mates when people are joking and know the boundaries. Completely different using it liberally in public, certainly when children are around.

 

i feel like uv changed sides! It's now more about pap going round dropping c-bombs in front of small children + catholic nuns, which I think we can all agree is disgraceful.

 

Out of order, pap. You should be shamed of urself.

[hypochondriac]

I reckon the fact that you don't use it, or more accurately, don't get to use it, is around 90% of your problem.

 

Is this attempt at public pap reprimand going as well as you'd hoped?

 

Don't get to use it? Not sure what you are on about. When I initially replied I didn't even realise it was you I was replying to so not sure why you think I am lavishing particular attention on your posts.

[pap]

i feel like uv changed sides! It's now more about pap going round dropping c-bombs in front of small children + catholic nuns, which I think we can all agree is disgraceful.

 

Out of order, pap. You should be shamed of urself.

 

And yet Bear, I'm completely unrepentant.

 

Here was me thinking that "a blokey term of respect" probably excluded saying it to nuns and nippers.

[hypochondriac]

Ok, so you read it, but didn't remember any of it? Specifically the key bit.

 

Fair enough.

 

I skim read the joke and didn't find it particularly funny. The key bit I took from it is that it wasn't in any way offensive and clearly Hodgson did not mean it as such.

[pap]

Don't get to use it? Not sure what you are on about. When I initially replied I didn't even realise it was you I was replying to so not sure why you think I am lavishing particular attention on your posts.

 

Painfully obvious.

 

No worries about ye olde confusion. I think we've established that as a "hypo norm" we should accommodate, you cheeky monkey.

[hypochondriac]

Painfully obvious.

 

No worries about ye olde confusion. I think we've established that as a "hypo norm" we should accommodate, you cheeky monkey.

 

Like everyone else I am perfectly capable of doing and saying what I want within the law. Liberal use of c*nt in public would be a public order offence anyway but seemingly you would consider that acceptable language in public which imo says a lot about you.

[pap]

Like everyone else I am perfectly capable of doing and saying what I want within the law. Liberal use of c*nt in public would be a public order offence anyway but seemingly you would consider that acceptable language in public which imo says a lot about you.

 

Yeah, but it's just your opinion, right?

 

I'll live.

[Bearsy]

Pap walks into newsagent, "Morning, c*nt," he says to old man behind counter. "Give me some c*nt rizzlers."

 

Small child is at his elbow, wanting to pay for sweets. "Wait ur turn," says pap, "c*nt." Small child runs off crying, "What's his c*nt problem?" wonders pap.

 

Pap goes to church. They is all saying prayers, "Our father who art in heaven..." blah blah. Then it gets to end and everyone says, "Amen," except one shrill, scouse voice piping over the congregation, "C*nt".

[pap]

Pap walks into newsagent, "Morning, c*nt," he says to old man behind counter. "Give me some c*nt rizzlers."

 

Small child is at his elbow, wanting to pay for sweets. "Wait ur turn," says pap, "c*nt." Small child runs off crying, "What's his c*nt problem?" wonders pap.

 

Pap goes to church. They is all saying prayers, "Our father who art in heaven..." blah blah. Then it gets to end and everyone says, "Amen," except one shrill, scouse voice piping over the congregation, saying "C*nt".

 

We had an agreement, Bear. You stalk me on Saturdays, not f**king Sundays!

[Bearsy]

I'm compiling evidence so I can report public order offence.

[Marsdinho]

I reckon they should name and shame the thick f*ck in the England dressing room who didn't get the joke.

[Whitey Grandad]

I reckon they should name and shame the thick f*ck in the England dressing room who didn't get the joke.

 

It's a fair bet they won't be on the plane to Brazil.

[Bearsy]

defoe

[Tokyo-Saint]

All these words you can and cannot use these days, worrying about being racist or not is bananas.

[orchardsaint]

Yet again it is the rainbow laces all over. There is no story without some halfwit trying to make up offence and get something going. Why do kick it out need to get involved?

[orchardsaint]

Is it still OK to liken Gareth Bale to a monkey?

 

Are you likening him to a monkey, or calling him a monkey? I think there is a difference and as such you are a racist!

[hutch]

i feel like uv changed sides! It's now more about pap going round dropping c-bombs in front of small children + catholic nuns, which I think we can all agree is disgraceful.

 

Out of order, pap. You should be shamed of urself.

Do we get Catholic nuns on here? Do they log onto the match threads for fashion advice?

[Grey Crab]

It was Rickie Lambert that was offended.

[orchardsaint]

Do we get Catholic nuns on here? Do they log onto the match threads for fashion advice?

 

Only the away kits!

[Pugwash]

It was Rooney.

 

I mean, it's obvious, innit?

 

You know...

 

The headband...

[OldNick]

defoe

perhaps he thinks that Harry will get the job if Roy is sacked, he will then be sure to go to Brazil

Lol

[Horley CTFC Saint]

They've lost no time this World Cup, have they. The most vocal rag when england don't perform, and yet every major tournament they try and undermine either the manager or some of the players. They are an utter disgrace.

 

And the bloody ink comes off when you wipe your ass on it - ba***rds!

[dubai_phil]

There are some days when I am so happy that we get an automatic Jail sentence for flipping someone the finger or a Police Caution for calling someone an Idiot.

 

Let's hope it was Defoe. One step closer to the plane to Brazil for SRL if it was.

[scotty]

And the bloody ink comes off when you wipe your ass on it - bastards!

 

You dont need to asterisk it.

[Saint Without a Halo]

So no more comparisons with the organ grinder and the monkey. (not sure if being compared to an organ grinder is not worse than being compared to the monkey?).