Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Just wondered how these guys are perceived as having developed. Stephens had played some first team football for Plymouth before joining us, whilst both he and Turnbull played for England U19s last year and no longer feature. Just wondering if anyone has watched them a lot and what the chances are of either making the step up to first team football? Stephens has been shunted around from intially being a RB, then to CB, then to holding midfield and then back to centre back again. It seems both are highly rated and were on the pre season tour, yet nearly all the U21 games highlights show poor goals being given away, often with individual errors. Would either or both be better served with a loan spell in L2 than playing in the docile U21s league? Jack Stephens Jordan Turnbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Isn't that Dale Stephens in the picture? Loaned from Oldham now at Charlton I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Isn't that Dale Stephens in the picture? Loaned from Oldham now at Charlton I believe. 33 is the right number, looks porky enough as well. And to think that some told me on this forum that he was a better player than Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Isn't that Dale Stephens in the picture? Loaned from Oldham now at Charlton I believe. Do you think Jack or Jordan will make the grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Do you think Jack or Jordan will make the grade? Sorry Charlie, just distracted by the former midfielder. I think they should be showing more around the first team if there are to make the grade. They have looked unconvincing and not especially confident in the u21 games i've seen. Worth giving time but I would expect them to be playing professionally at League 1/2 level in the future. I did believe that Jack Saville was a better prospect though and he's now ended up at Ebbsfleet on loan from Barnett. They can't all be a Shaw or Chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 This is Dale Stephens: He was a tidy enough midfield player, but hasn't done much at Charlton. Anyway, back to the point....thoughts on Turnbull and Stephens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 (edited) This is Dale Stephens: He was a tidy enough midfield player, but hasn't done much at Charlton. Anyway, back to the point....thoughts on Turnbull and Stephens? Sorry, you are wrong mate. This is Dale Stephens (Pictured as an Oldham player prior to joining us) https://www.google.co.uk/#q=dale+stephens http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php?172-saints-sign-dale-stephens This is Jack (during one of his appearances for Plymouth as a raw 16 year old): Edited 15 October, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Jordan seems a little bit of a knob on twitter. You can put the eyebrows down to age (bear has a similar set) but... Also puts that he is an England international in his profile. MLG may come up with some technicalities about youth caps or something but it is a bit of an exaggerations. I guess If I was a footballers and tweeting birds, I'd probably tell them I was an England international as well. Yeah he is ok apart from the eyebrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Jack Stephens This is Dale Stephens: He was a tidy enough midfield player, but hasn't done much at Charlton. You've got them mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Sorry, you are wrong mate. This is Dale Stephens https://www.google.co.uk/#q=dale+stephens http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php?172-saints-sign-dale-stephens This is Jack: The names on yours are the wrong way round. Jack is the one with the slightly fatter Lee Trundle-esque face and Dale Stephens is the bottom of the two, although didn't realise he was at Plymouth at any point (must have been on loan). Hopefully for their sake not at the same time Jack was there, would have confused everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 (edited) The names on yours are the wrong way round. Jack is the one with the slightly fatter Lee Trundle-esque face and Dale Stephens is the bottom of the two, although didn't realise he was at Plymouth at any point (must have been on loan). Hopefully for their sake not at the same time Jack was there, would have confused everyone. No, they are really not! Dale played for Oldham (with the fatter face), Jack played for Plymouth (thinner face.) Dale has never played for Plymouth and Jack has never played for Oldham. Edited 15 October, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 The names on yours are the wrong way round. Jack is the one with the slightly fatter Lee Trundle-esque face and Dale Stephens is the bottom of the two, although didn't realise he was at Plymouth at any point (must have been on loan). Hopefully for their sake not at the same time Jack was there, would have confused everyone. You are the one that has them the wrong way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 You've got them mixed up. See above post to correct Colin. From your FM Researcher perspective how do the two rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 jesus when you guys sort out who is who i will come back + give my opinions ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 I don't know who Jack or Dale is? When did they play for us? Will they be in Duncans book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 See above post to correct Colin. I don't know how to put this any other way... you have got them mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 And here is an article in the echo specifically referencing the photo you linked as Dale. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9030372.Dale_s_in_demand/?action=complain&cid=9366719 I had to research this delicately when we signed him to make sure I didn't get the news article for this website wrong, knowing we had just signed Jack, another Stephens, from Plymouth. Charlie, mate. You have it the wrong way round. Not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 jesus when you guys sort out who is who i will come back + give my opinions ffs Jack Stephens is this guy: Dale Stephens is this guy: Jordan Turnbull is this guy: Opinions on Jack Stephens and Jordan Turnbull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 This is the moment we have been waiting for, a MLG - St Charlie who is the bigest pencildic statto showdown. Question 1 boys - name these famous Steven/Stephens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 I don't know who Jack or Dale is? When did they play for us? Will they be in Duncans book? Dale Stephens is right back currently playing CF for youth team, Jack Stephens is former player with fat/thin/turnbull face, Cat Stevens changed his name to Yusuf Islam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 And here is an article in the echo specifically referencing the photo you linked as Dale. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9030372.Dale_s_in_demand/?action=complain&cid=9366719 I had to research this delicately when we signed him to make sure I didn't get the news article for this website wrong, knowing we had just signed Jack, another Stephens, from Plymouth. Charlie, mate. You have it the wrong way round. Not me. Now you are quoting the Soton Echo as a source to show you are right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 F*ck me Charlie, are you on a wind up!? Is this one of those Star Trek TNG 'Four Lights' scenarios!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 F*ck me Charlie, are you on a wind up!? Is this one of those Star Trek TNG 'Four Lights' scenarios!? Anyway, Stephens seems to have been harmed by being so versatile yet Chambers has benefitted from it. Turnbull's position is clear, but he lacks pace and composure on the ball for me. Neither will be PL players IMO, but both should have a future in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 See above post to correct Colin. From your FM Researcher perspective how do the two rate? Give them all a -8 just to be on the safe side. Correct it in a later patch or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 (edited) Jack Stephens is this guy: Jack joined Saints in April 2011. He did not play for the first team that season or have a squad number. He did not play at St Mary's in the 2010/11 season. The player in that photo is wearing the 2010/11 kit on the St Mary's pitch and is wearing number 33 which was Dale Stephens number in the 2010/11 season. Are you being serious or doing this for ****s and giggles? Edited 15 October, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 (edited) Now you are quoting the Soton Echo as a source to show you are right? Who has Jack Stephens played for in his career? Remind me. He looks good in Charlton colours doesn't he. http://www1.skysports.com/football/player/5583/dale-stephens Edited 15 October, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Just wondered how these guys are perceived as having developed. Stephens had played some first team football for Plymouth before joining us, whilst both he and Turnbull played for England U19s last year and no longer feature. Just wondering if anyone has watched them a lot and what the chances are of either making the step up to first team football? Stephens has been shunted around from intially being a RB, then to CB, then to holding midfield and then back to centre back again. It seems both are highly rated and were on the pre season tour, yet nearly all the U21 games highlights show poor goals being given away, often with individual errors. Would either or both be better served with a loan spell in L2 than playing in the docile U21s league? Jack Stephens Jordan Turnbull That is dale stevens.you do have them the wrong way round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Too many winks Colin - bit of an on to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Dale Stephens is this guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Too many winks Colin - bit of an on to What has it come to when you can no longer be a little suggestive on the main board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Don't worry about it big boy ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 I think I had an opinion when I first started reading this thread, but now I don't know what to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Both of them come across as right nobs on twitter, I deleted them (sure they are devastated) I remember they were giving bale both barrels mid season last year saying he was nothing special and loving himself. I pointed out that he is a great example to all academy players. Funnily enough they stfu by the end of the season. Perhaps they are the big time Charlie's. I know one thing, they need to knuckle down and graft if they want to get in our 1st team. IMO will become lower league no marks in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Isn't that Dale Stephens in the picture? Loaned from Oldham now at Charlton I believe. Yep, you are right. Here is a corrected picture of Jack Stephens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Yep, you are right. Here is a corrected picture of Jack Stephens. That's him, used to play for Fulchester Rovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 I am sure that Shakin Stevens was in our academy and a better mover than Dale and Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Charlie you've had a mare here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Charlie you've had a mare here. Or a bit of fun, depending how you look at it ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Or a bit of fun, depending how you look at it ;-) I'm going to look at it as: you've had a mare. Maybe we could have a poll to see how everyone else is looking at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 I don't know who Jack or Dale is? When did they play for us? Will they be in Duncans book? Both are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 I am sure that Shakin Stevens was in our academy and a better mover than Dale and Jack. No, that was "Inky" Stephens who was Headmaster at Poole Grammnar School in years gone by. Anybody remember him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 Hahahahahahaha golden thread. Thanks Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 October, 2013 Hahahahahahaha golden thread. Thanks Charlie Do you think Dale Stephens will make the grade for us? Not made a first team app since Cov away in the cup if I'm right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 Another thread ruined by the nitpicking trolls desperate to point out someone has got a minor detail wrong than replying to the point. This place is going downhill fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 From what I have seen, Stephen Dale is much better than Stephen Jacks. I hope this helps clear everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 October, 2013 From what I have seen, Stephen Dale is much better than Stephen Jacks. I hope this helps clear everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 From what I have seen, Stephen Dale is much better than Stephen Jacks. I hope this helps clear everything up. His brother Terry was a better singer though although he did have his seasons in the sun... Don't try and work it out if you're under forty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 Jordan Turnbull has a squishy face. If I may be so bold as to say. If it isn't racist. Or facist. Or whatever nonsense the PC brigade may have me up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 (edited) His brother Terry was a better singer though although he did have his seasons in the sun... Don't try and work it out if you're under forty Did you know that Seasons in the Sun is an anglicised version of The Moribond by Jacques Brel ? Just as My Way is merely an english adaptation of Comme D'Habitude" by Claude François. Edited 16 October, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 16 October, 2013 Share Posted 16 October, 2013 I'm ****in confused which one has died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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