Saint_clark Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 You just know they'll name Rooney or Gerrard as MOTM though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 I had him down as a one-footed pony on tonight's performance. Then he does that the first time he uses his other foot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Saint Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 You just know they'll name Rooney or Gerrard as MOTM though. Tragically, you are probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Tragically, you are probably right. I actually shouted "WHAT THE F*CK" at the TV when they named Gerrard MOTM after the Moldova game when Lambert scored one and set two up, and Sturridge scored 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Redknapp's gonna big himself up again. That **** can go suck a lemon, not that it would effect how he looks at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Saint Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 I actually shouted "WHAT THE F*CK" at the TV when they named Gerrard MOTM after the Moldova game when Lambert scored one and set two up, and Sturridge scored 2. Ha, me too! At least justice has been served this time. "That **** can go suck a lemon, not that it would effect how he looks at all. " Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Boo, not even a sub appearance for Rickie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Ramirez on the bench for Uruguay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Sturridge fouled, Penalty. Where's Rickie when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 FFS no Lambert on the pitch. Gerrard? Baines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 For the chances, I would say 4-1 is about right. Now; Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Saint Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 FFS no Lambert on the pitch. Gerrard? Baines? Its a shame, I reckon he would have pouched a couple in that game. We needed a focal point at times too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Awful penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Townsend MOTM , quite right too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 So we can lose to Poland and still finish top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Great finish, obviously a quality player! I'm sure he will be scoring goals like that in a Saints shirt soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 So we can lose to Poland and still finish top? If Ukraine lose to San Marino. So no, we can't lose to Poland and still finish top, we NEED the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 which own goal was better then? or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZKzuhc58es Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Awful penalty. Not really. He saw the keeper was already going to his right and just placed it the other side of him. Well taken IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 11 October, 2013 Share Posted 11 October, 2013 Steven Davis turned out for Northern Ireland who lost 2-0 to Azerbaijan. They're now level on points with Luxembourg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Awful penalty. Goalie made it easy by going the wrong way, but I thought that the ball wasn't going to make it over the line with such a weak kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Great finish, obviously a quality player! I'm sure he will be scoring goals like that in a Saints shirt soon Dani...one (great) goal ....and an assist for Italy's last minute equaliser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Boo, not even a sub appearance for Rickie! Despite out dominance (70% at times). Montenegro always looked dangerous on the break, and I thought both Lampard and Gerrard were a bit below par. We needed the changes in midfield and I don't think I'd argue the subbing, although I'd like to have seen Rickie on ..even for the last 10 mins. I expected loads of wasted chances from our "strike force" and not to be disappointed one or two did land in row Q, but I was was still more concerned about our defence..(what is Walker doing there FFS ?) Have to say I did think Rooney played well, though (though it pains me to have to say it ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 I went. England are ****. Fans are ****. Never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 I went. England are ****. Fans are ****. Never again. thought england were pretty decent at times yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 I see Sterling has been promoted to the full squad to cover the absence of Cleverly, wouldn't have thought that was a like for like replacement myself though. Do we think that's a slap in the face for Lallana or that it's justifiable to replace Cleverly with a Liverpool bencher ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 I see Sterling has been promoted to the full squad to cover the absence of Cleverly, wouldn't have thought that was a like for like replacement myself though. Do we think that's a slap in the face for Lallana or that it's justifiable to replace Cleverly with a Liverpool bencher ? it really is. lallana has been excellent this season. sterling has not and has not been for a while now it really is a case of play for the traditional top clubs and you are in when it comes to decisions like this infact, what has sterling done of any note what so ever to get in now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 it really is. lallana has been excellent this season. sterling has not and has not been for a while now it really is a case of play for the traditional top clubs and you are in when it comes to decisions like this infact, what has sterling done of any note what so ever to get in now? Sterling has been garbage -listening to Liverpool fans on the way back from our game and the consensus is that he's been struggling. Other than a big club bias, the only explanation is that Hodgson wanted a direct, pacey winger -not only because that's his 'old school'' philosophy and consistent with the sides he put out at a club level but also because they could step in for Townsend if the gamble to start him didn't paid off. Nobody will confuse Lallana for a pacey winger; but it really shows how shallow the talent pool really is at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 I see Sterling has been promoted to the full squad to cover the absence of Cleverly, wouldn't have thought that was a like for like replacement myself though. Do we think that's a slap in the face for Lallana or that it's justifiable to replace Cleverly with a Liverpool bencher ? Absolute joke decision that. It can't be argued that there isn't a big club bias in terms of international call ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Sterling has been garbage -listening to Liverpool fans on the way back from our game and the consensus is that he's been struggling. Other than a big club bias, the only explanation is that Hodgson wanted a direct, pacey winger -not only because that's his 'old school'' philosophy and consistent with the sides he put out at a club level but also because they could step in for Townsend if the gamble to start him didn't paid off. Nobody will confuse Lallana for a pacey winger; but it really shows how shallow the talent pool really is at the position. But Cleverly isn't a pacey winger either, more of a CM isn't he ? Townsend played well yesterday I believe, no reason to think he won't do the same against Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Sterling has been garbage -listening to Liverpool fans on the way back from our game and the consensus is that he's been struggling. Other than a big club bias, the only explanation is that Hodgson wanted a direct, pacey winger -not only because that's his 'old school'' philosophy and consistent with the sides he put out at a club level but also because they could step in for Townsend if the gamble to start him didn't paid off. Nobody will confuse Lallana for a pacey winger; but it really shows how shallow the talent pool really is at the position. Surely Nathan Dyer would be the obvious choice on that basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Surely Nathan Dyer would be the obvious choice on that basis? Agree - was even going to mention Dyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Surely Nathan Dyer would be the obvious choice on that basis? I don't doubt that Dyer is excluded from the England set up because he has a criminal record for an offence other than some motoring misdemeanour. Don't know if any other member of the squad has an actual criminal record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Sterling has been garbage -listening to Liverpool fans on the way back from our game and the consensus is that he's been struggling. Other than a big club bias, the only explanation is that Hodgson wanted a direct, pacey winger -not only because that's his 'old school'' philosophy and consistent with the sides he put out at a club level but also because they could step in for Townsend if the gamble to start him didn't paid off. Nobody will confuse Lallana for a pacey winger; but it really shows how shallow the talent pool really is at the position. No great surprise at all, I even though Clyne might be in with a chance of call up as well since Kyle Walker is now suspended for the Poland game but no, let's play Smalling or Jones from Man U who've hardly played this season and who's first choice position is centre half (although both can do a job at RB) when the RB from the club with the meanest defence this season is available... but of course we're not a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 as always, half of the england squad players could play a hell of a lot better for the likes of norwich, stoke etc and never get a look in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 as always, half of the england squad players could play a hell of a lot better for the likes of norwich, stoke etc and never get a look in The missing element is "European" experience. National team managers are afraid to select players without it. It's not just the UK, any major football nation has few players who don't have European competition experience although what crushing some Moldavian minnows from time to time brings to the table I couldn't say. Michu got his first call up for Spain this week I think, started against Bielorussia yesterday, now with his scoring record last season you'd have thought he'd have got a nod for their summer tour, but no, not until he'd played in a couple of insignificant Europa League games did he become selectionnable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 The missing element is "European" experience. National team managers are afraid to select players without it. It's not just the UK, any major football nation has few players who don't have European competition experience although what crushing some Moldavian minnows from time to time brings to the table I couldn't say. Michu got his first call up for Spain this week I think, started against Bielorussia yesterday, now with his scoring record last season you'd have thought he'd have got a nod for their summer tour, but no, not until he'd played in a couple of insignificant Europa League games did he become selectionnable. I always laugh when OxO got called up for england without even playing for arsenal. did he transform as a player over night and gain extra abilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 I always laugh when OxO got called up for england without even playing for arsenal. did he transform as a player over night and gain extra abilities? Ah no, that's down to the Mirror and the Sun. They do like to have their binkies in the national side, The Sun got Walcott into England's 2006 World Cup squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Ah no, that's down to the Mirror and the Sun. They do like to have their binkies in the national side, The Sun got Walcott into England's 2006 World Cup squad. Actually Arsene Wenger got Walcott into the 2006 squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 While I don't rate sterling on current form, it's normal for England to use their current squad and u21 s for replacements unless there are major problems with injuries etc. the squad had 3 people who can play right back, and now there's two so why bother calling anyone up? I think Roy has decided on two wingers rather than a 3 man midfield so with Gerard, carrick, lampard and Wiltshire doesn't need another cm, and as sterling was recently in the full squad and is on England duty anyway, he was the obvious choice. Given walkers recent form, though, I'd like to think Clyne has an outside chance of making the squad next summer. He's not really started yet this season, but Richards isn't playing and walkers poor at the moment so if he gets his head down and has a good season, who knows? I can't see lallana making it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 While I don't rate sterling on current form, it's normal for England to use their current squad and u21 s for replacements unless there are major problems with injuries etc. the squad had 3 people who can play right back, and now there's two so why bother calling anyone up? I think Roy has decided on two wingers rather than a 3 man midfield so with Gerard, carrick, lampard and Wiltshire doesn't need another cm, and as sterling was recently in the full squad and is on England duty anyway, he was the obvious choice. Given walkers recent form, though, I'd like to think Clyne has an outside chance of making the squad next summer. He's not really started yet this season, but Richards isn't playing and walkers poor at the moment so if he gets his head down and has a good season, who knows? I can't see lallana making it, though. Sterling was terrible the other night against the might of San Marino. What makes anyone think he'll be better against the full Polish defence? Nathan Redmond would have been a much better choice under that criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 October, 2013 Share Posted 12 October, 2013 Sterling was terrible the other night against the might of San Marino. What makes anyone think he'll be better against the full Polish defence? Nathan Redmond would have been a much better choice under that criteria. Poland have nothing to play for, expect it to be a bit of a rout myself, Lambert might even score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Steven Davis equaliser for Norn Iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Does Smalling realise he's playing right back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 This is shaping up nicely for a Rickie masterclass in the last half hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Well looks like England are gambling on an early goal, which if it comes would be the cue for shutting up shop. Only risk is they could score whilst we are playing very open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 We've had it in their half for most of the match, yet I'd actually forgotten Rooney was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 Welbeck FFS! Easier to score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 1973 anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 15 October, 2013 Share Posted 15 October, 2013 SRL would have scored a couple by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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