trousers Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 Cortese is on the agenda at the Leaders In Football conference taking place over the next couple of days. He's due on tomorrow (10th Oct) at 14:20... http://www.leadersinfootball.com/content/conference/ 14:20-15:00 WINNERS AND LOSERS: BALANCING BUSINESS WITH FOOTBALL Win games, build a business and balance the books. Life at the top of a football club is a balancing act. Add into the mixture fervent supporter scrutiny and intense competition and it becomes an almost impossible task. Leaders brings together the men running clubs and balancing business with football expectations. Session sponsored by: International Centre for Sport Security (ICSS) Confirmed Speakers: PETER SIEMSEN, PRESIDENT, FLUMINENSE BRUCE BUCK, CHAIRMAN, CHELSEA FC NICOLA CORTESE, CHAIRMAN, SOUTHAMPTON FC Live feed here for anyone sad enough (like me) to want to watch: http://www.leadersinfootball.com/ (Greg Dyke's keynote speech on at the moment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 Don't think its sad, if i wasnt working i would probably have watched myself. We are Saints fans and have an interest in our club and that man that has been leading us. Natural to be interested in what he has to say. Look forward to you posting the bulletin points from his speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 It's always good to hear from him. Don't think I'll be free though, will it be available to watch after the live stream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 His speech would I imagine have a more general comment then simply his experiences of running Saints, but it would be good to hear his perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 Working tomorrow. Trousers can we rely on you please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 I'll try and record it if I remember and it doesn't take too much space (40 minutes of video = a lot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 Hopefully they'll be speaking one at a time rather than a debate format, and Cortese will be last as I finish work at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 Im actually listening to it now. Interesting stuff about corruption and match fixing and how difficult it is to fight given the huge power of the bets going on. President of la Liga reckons currently 1% of games fixed but says it will rise if nothing done. $2bn bet on every cricket match just in India - where betting is illegal so the industry is controlled by organised crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Hope trousers is ready to take some notes on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessy7 Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 I'm signed off work today and have the stream at the ready. I think I only have three posts a day (I think that's the case if you haven't paid for this site, I should really pay for this site) though will hopefully post up any thing of note from the seminar afterwards. As mentioned previously, I doubt there will be much/anything directly Southampton FC related, though you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Hope trousers is ready to take some notes on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Just a thought, what's the difference between a "chairman" and an "executive chairman" (in the football world)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 The feed is pretty much unwatchable at the moment....keeps freezing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepSaint Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 The feed is pretty much unwatchable at the moment....keeps freezing Seems alright to me ..............but then again I am watching it at work ! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese going over the history of the takeover and saying he found a club with no ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese says plan was 1 year in League 1 and 3 in Championship. I wonder how much his plans were changed by the rapid rise through the second tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 (edited) ... Edited 10 October, 2013 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 The brazlian fella sounds like he's dying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Not too gripping atm. The stuff yesterday was more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Just a thought, what's the difference between a "chairman" and an "executive chairman" (in the football world)? Same as in any other world I'd have thought. A chairman is normally non-executive (as ours have been over the years, with the exceptions of Lowe and Cortese); they head up the board, but have no executive responsibilities, leaving the day-to-day running of the club to executives (CEO etc.). For example, Bruce Buck doesn't run things at Chelsea - Ron Gourlay, the chief exec, does that. An executive chairman is, in effect, both chairman and chief exec; thus, Cortese both chairs the board and runs the club on a day-to-day basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 (edited) Cortese: "We are planning on growing our commercial income by 70 - 100% over the next 3 years" He says we need to close the commercial gap between us and Man Utd, Chelsea, etc....he doesn't see it as "unfair" that they have a commercial advantage though, he sees it as a challenge that he relishes which is one of t,he reasons why he voted against "financial fair play" or "unfair financial regulation" as he put it. He was effectively saying that those who can't come up with ways of matching the Man Utds of this world shouldn't be propped up by a financial "fair play" system. Edited 10 October, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese: "We are planning on growing our commercial income by 70 - 100% over the next 3 years" Hmm not a great start here then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Pompey obviously learned their tactics from Fluminense, who didn't pay their taxes for 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Question now about the managerial changes at Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Pompey obviously learned their tactics from Fluminense, who didn't pay their taxes for 30 years Their Chief Exec was Pietro Stori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese: "We are planning on growing our commercial income by 70 - 100% over the next 3 years" Getting a better (ie richer and far more well known) sponsor might account for a large part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Interesting now about why managerial changes were made - although nothing particularly surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 (edited) Cortese: "You don't just change a manager for the sake of it. You do it because you have facts within the club that influence your decision. For us it was coming through different leagues and you need someone who fulfills a role at each level. The worst thing for any company is to have a standstill. You have to take a decision even if it is unpopular" Edited 10 October, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 (edited) Palios: "You were criticised when you changed the manager without having someone lined up and also criticised when you had a successor" Cortese: "I know, you can't win (or words to that effect). We had planned the exact day Nigel would be replaced and that's what we did - stuck to the plan, even though he had a run of good results up to that day" Edited 10 October, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 And that's a wrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese's decisions are clearly planned and executed at specific times in specific ways, and once a decision is made, he will carry it through. That clashes with the traditional view that managerial decisions are sometimes delayed or reversed on the back of a result or 3, and is also worth bearing in mind in the future. He is clearly not an impulsive man, which, to be honest, is a good thing in business IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese's decisions are clearly planned and executed at specific times in specific ways, and once a decision is made, he will carry it through. That clashes with the traditional view that managerial decisions are sometimes delayed or reversed on the back of a result or 3, and is also worth bearing in mind in the future. He is clearly not an impulsive man, which, to be honest, is a good thing in business IMO. I wonder if Pochettino is his man for the next level or just this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Ben Rumsby @ben_rumsby Cortese on his arrival at #sfc: "Using the word ambition was a problem for some people because we were living down on the south coast." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 I did raise a smile when he said 'and I will do it the same way in future'... Personally I think that he thinks MoPo has the potential to take us the whatever level we want to get to - but if he starts to have any doubts then he'll clearly start to put things in motion. What I think that means from our point of view is that if rumours start to come out about us looking for a replacement - as long as it's not from a complete washout of a source - then it probably does mean that NC has made a decision and is looking for the next manager... a matter of when, not if. Still, I don't think that'll be necessary personally, and can see MoPo taking us far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Ben Rumsby @ben_rumsby Cortese on his arrival at #sfc: "Using the word ambition was a problem for some people because we were living down on the south coast." That's going to make Barry's day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Ben Rumsby @ben_rumsby Cortese on his arrival at #sfc: "Using the word ambition was a problem for some people because we were living down on the south coast." Dell sized mentalities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 I do believe in Cortese, and the small snippets you hear from him only serve to increase that belief. He always seems to be considered, pragmatic, has a view on the long term and even if things seem odd there is always a logic behind it. It has so far paid off, we have progressed incredibly well but the litmus test for him is coming. There will be a day when the logical planning and actions do not have a the desired result over a long period of time. There will come a time when we reach an apex that cannot be broken past. The club will reach it's zenith. At that point there will be nothing more he can do. It's my theory that Cortese thinks he can take Saints to the very top, if the glass ceiling falls beneath that point what will he do? We will learn more about him and our club's current structure in adversity then when the tide is smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 That's me in the front row (looking like I have my head on Cortese's lap) After the talk as Cortese was walking off stage, Gianluca Vialli started following him down the corridor and was shouting "Nicola, Nicola". He was desperate to talk to him, it was very weird... maybe he wants to be front of the queue when NC makes the next change, when we reach the Champs League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Fan Dan Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Very interesting the part about the managerial changes. He got stick not having a replacement lined up for Pardew and still got stick for having Pochettino immediately lined up. People complain about the way in which Adkins was sacked, well, how else do you sack a manager? It's never a nice thing to do but there's no other way of doing it and the way in which Cortese did the Adkins/Pochettino change so seamlessly has to be applauded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese says plan was 1 year in League 1 and 3 in Championship. I wonder how much his plans were changed by the rapid rise through the second tier It was actually a 3 year plan... 1 year in league one and two in the championship but in the end we did it the other way round. (Is what he said!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 That's me in the front row (looking like I have my head on Cortese's lap) After the talk as Cortese was walking off stage, Gianluca Vialli started following him down the corridor and was shouting "Nicola, Nicola". He was desperate to talk to him, it was very weird... maybe he wants to be front of the queue when NC makes the next change, when we reach the Champs League Probably just wanted to borrow a tenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Cortese's decisions are clearly planned and executed at specific times in specific ways, and once a decision is made, he will carry it through. That clashes with the traditional view that managerial decisions are sometimes delayed or reversed on the back of a result or 3, and is also worth bearing in mind in the future. He is clearly not an impulsive man, which, to be honest, is a good thing in business IMO. Don't see the Don as being a traditionalist - he knows what he wants and will go with that traditional or not. He is not scared or prevaricates over making a decision which in my book is fine especially as its always what is right for the club either commercially or footballing wise. Love the way he sees closing the commercial gap as a challenge - speaks reams about the man and his mind set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 It was actually a 3 year plan... 1 year in league one and two in the championship but in the end we did it the other way round. (Is what he said!) I thought he said 1 year in League 1 and 3 in Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Probably just wanted to borrow a tenner. Probably for a packet of fags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 I thought he said 1 year in League 1 and 3 in Championship. He did. I recorded the whole thing, so ill try and upload it to YouTube later. On another note, I got to speak to Nigel Adkins in some detail last night. To sum up: - He misses being Saints manager - Loved every second of his time at the club - Said he understood the decision to change management (strange) and was really pleased to see us doing so well under MP. - Really pleased to have Billy Sharp at Reading as a top bloke and goal scorer, but he's picked up an injury straight away. - When I said 'Reading are a similar sized club to Saints', he said "I thought so too, but they are a lot smaller in every way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 I thought he said 1 year in League 1 and 3 in Championship. He did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 10 October, 2013 Share Posted 10 October, 2013 Sorry but Nicola definitely said one year in L1 and two years in the Championship - the 'we did it the other way around' comment would make no sense otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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