Lallana for England ?

[david in sweden]

...didn't take too long for the media come up with that one, after MP was " fed " the question by a lazy journo' in our after Swansea victory press conference.

 

We can all recall those ridiculing responses from some of our notable posters when the thread " Lambert for England" appeared last year, but guess what ...?

 

but Adam Lallana for England?. In all fairness, I don't think he's been a stand-out player so often this season, although he did turn in a top class performance on Sunday - and a goal, too.

 

The real test for him will be our upcoming performances against " his rivals " for the position, when we play Man.Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea.

 

Does he see himself ahead of a " declining " Lampard, Cleverley, Wilshere or Walcott...or will it be a case of filling a midfield vacuum if half-a dozen of Roy's favourites are injured at the same time.?

 

Of course, we'd like to see him get a few caps, but it's unlikely at present... however, stranger things have happened and (as with Lambert) ...cometh the day, cometh the man.

Edited 8 October, 2013 by david in sweden

[Roger]

Very good on sat and has been better this season. However, he was poor for about a year and needs to improve goal scoring record. If he keeps it up to Xmas probably.

[JackanorySFC]

If, and it's a massive "if" a club like us, Swansea or West Brom managed to somehow break into the top 4 this season I will be fascinated to see if Hodgson harnesses the obvious feel good factor in that squad and picks a group from them, for example using us as an example, Lambert, Lallana and Clyne. Lallana possesses the ability to beat a man with a trick, something not many people in the current squad can. He's a crowd pleaser, but as we all know, could score more goals. Love the lad myself, has stood by us in the lower leagues and is deserved captain IMO.

 

Looks like even I'm getting carried away now!

[Gemmel]

Lallana has been far better this season, than many on here give him credit for and he obviously is on Woys's radar given his previous call up. I wouldn't fall down in surprise over a call up, but don't think it is on the cards (Injuries aside) anytime soon.

 

He just needs to keep doing what he is doing, add a couple more goals to his tally each season and wait for Woy's boys to **** up in either the qualifiers or Brasil itself and wait for the new manager to replace the old guard.

[Saint Troy]

Lallana has been far better this season, than many on here give him credit for and he obviously is on Woys's radar given his previous call up. I wouldn't fall down in surprise over a call up, but don't think it is on the cards (Injuries aside) anytime soon.

 

He just needs to keep doing what he is doing, add a couple more goals to his tally each season and wait for Woy's boys to **** up in either the qualifiers or Brasil itself and wait for the new manager to replace the old guard.

 

Fully agree with this, hes had a good start to the season and if was on Roys radar before he must be now to some degree.

 

Clyne must be as close to anyone for a call up though - he was very good all year last year, very good this year and consistent, decent going both directions and has very good pace. Completely red and white tinted glasses but cant see how others are way ahead of him at the moment

[Dan Johnson]

I think he's in with a shot if he continues this seasons form, he has to be consistent though, he struggled a little last year.

 

Here are the recent Midfielders that have had a call up to England

 

Recent

 

MF Ashley Young - Struggling for Form

MF Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

MF Jack Rodwell - Injury Prone

MF Scott Parker - Age against him

MF Leon Osman

MF Aaron Lennon

MF Tom Huddlestone - Now plays for unfashionable team

MF Jonjo Shelvey

 

Current

MF Steven Gerrard - Age against him

MF Frank Lampard - Age against him

MF James Milner

MF Michael Carrick

MF Tom Cleverley - ?!

MF Jack Wilshere

MF Ross Barkley

MF Andros Townsend

[Window Cleaner]

just been rerading all the guff about that Belgian/Albanian/Turkish/Serbian lad who plays for Utd. Apparently a whole host of our players could (in theory) be capped for England if they should wish to abandon their home country. Morgan and José for instance.

Both have been here continously for at least 5 years after they were 18 so they'd be eligible if they were interested and England wanted them. I think Morgan really has to decided soon because with that knobber Deschamps in charge he's never ever going to get the nod.

[The9]

Lallana's had one game this season where he's been obviously good, I'm not sure that's really international form. He's on their radar (and has already had a token call up) but needs to be a lot more consistent.

 

Also, there's no such thing as the residential rule any more, so you can stop going on about Schneiderlin for England. In order to do that he'd have to take British citizenship (and then decide not to play for Scotland etc. ).

[The9]

just been rerading all the guff about that Belgian/Albanian/Turkish/Serbian lad who plays for Utd. Apparently a whole host of our players could (in theory) be capped for England if they should wish to abandon their home country. Morgan and José for instance.

Both have been here continously for at least 5 years after they were 18 so they'd be eligible if they were interested and England wanted them. I think Morgan really has to decided soon because with that knobber Deschamps in charge he's never ever going to get the nod.

 

It's nonsense, based on an outdated rule that no longer exists.

[Gemmel]

Lallana's had one game this season where he's been obviously good

 

Thats simply not true

[Window Cleaner]

It's nonsense, based on an outdated rule that no longer exists.

 

tell that to the BBC and FIFA then

 

England manager Roy Hodgson said on Match of the Day on Saturday that he had been keeping an eye on a player whom he described as a "real talent".

The sport's governing body Fifa states a player is eligible if "he has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association".

[Bearsy]

tell that to the BBC and FIFA then

 

England manager Roy Hodgson said on Match of the Day on Saturday that he had been keeping an eye on a player whom he described as a "real talent".

The sport's governing body Fifa states a player is eligible if "he has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association".

 

i think Morgan can't tho cos he played for Les Bleus Petit Hommes

[Ulrich van Gobbel]

i think Morgan can't tho cos he played for Les Bleus Petit Hommes

 

I believe be could still technically play for England, Monsieur Ours. However, I seem to remember him ruling this out as he is a proud Frenchman and wants to ultimately play for the senior team.

[Window Cleaner]

I believe be could still technically play for England, Monsieur Ours. However, I seem to remember him ruling this out as he is a proud Frenchman and wants to ultimately play for the senior team.

 

You can push national pride to a certain point, when it becomes evident that you're not going to get a call up at any price then you either have to accept that or look at your other possibilities (if they exist that is) I've always said that Morgan won't get to play for France whilst he's at Saints and Deschamps is in charge, don't see any reason to change that opinion. He had a great season last year and was evidently a far better player than several that they've called up after one or two respectable games for sides like St Etienne and Monaco, he must know that he'll be passed over for ever and may want to change that.

[Give it to Ron]

i think Morgan can't tho cos he played for Les Bleus Petit Hommes

 

Doesnt matter Spain are after Diego Costa and he has played for Brazil firsts!!

[Toon Saint]

Pleasantly surprised by Lallana's consistency this season. Behind Boruc, Lovren and Fonte, he has been one of our standout performers.

 

Needs to be more clinical in front of goal but good signs yesterday with him putting his foot through the ball, rather than his sidefooted scuff that had become something of a trademark. Nice also to see him get the full 90 minutes.

 

If he can maintain this level for an extended period and prove that their are no issues with match fitness then he absolutely will be in with a shout of an England call. Can't do much worse than Messrs Young and Cleverley can we?

[Bearsy]

Doesnt matter Spain are after Diego Costa and he has played for Brazil firsts!!

 

yo! Not to harp on but Morgan can't switch cos he played for Les Bleus Petit Hommes Aventuriers Sexuels in an official tournaments.

 

Behind Boruc, Lovren and Fonte, he has been one of our standout performers.

 

Lovren is play for Croatia so I think he is out. Good shout on Boruc tho. He is better than Hart.

[Window Cleaner]

yo! Not to harp on but Morgan can't switch cos he played for Les Bleus Petit Hommes Aventuriers Sexuels in an official tournaments.

 

 

 

Lovren is play for Croatia so I think he is out. Good shout on Boruc tho. He is better than Hart.

 

don't know Bearsy, the number of young French blokes who've played for the Bleuets and then chosen to represent their African nationalities at full international level is infinite. I have absolutely no idea what they class as an official tournament.

[Saint_clark]

Said when the squad was announced that he could feel a little hard done by given the lack of width. If there's a midfield pull out in that England squad, Lallana has surely got to be in line for a call up.

[DT]

I think there are about five players ahead of him at the moment, and that Barkley will get the nod sooner rather than later.

[Golden Balls]

I think the England fans would like him. Skills and hard work go a long way.

 

Also, if he and Chamberlin play for England together, I'm in for a big pay day.

[Batman]

he could play far worse for liverpool or man united and be a shoe-in

[mitch01]

I never understood the criticism lallana received on here. He had a mildly frustrating season last year, not helped by an injury before Xmas when he looked on really good form. In the eyes of many he warranted absolutely no respect for his massive contribution to the double promotion, and loyalty while we were in L1.

 

Even putting that aside and focussing absolutely on his what he offers to the squad now, I still feel he merits his role as part of the starting eleven. Despite not possessing the shedloads of pace that most PL wingers can call upon, lallana is still very wel capable of beating his fullback and providing a cross with a neat piece of footwork or clever first touch. Trying to make that potentially match-winning bit of space for himself invariably carries a risk of giving the ball away, but this is a small cost for the constant threat he poses even when it doesn't look like he is playing his best.

 

I don't see him as a regular international player but he is a great option to have in our squad. Would be great if he could continue his great start to the season, but regardless of that we should value a player with his creativity and attitude.

[Bearsy]

article here making the startling observation that Adam is better than Milner. Someone needs to let hodgson know bout this!

 

http://www.football365.com/f365-features/8964451/WhoScored365

 

Lallana has won possession in the attacking third of the pitch on more occasions than any other player in the Premier League this season.

[corky morris]

If Lallana had Oxo's or Walcotts pace he would have been in the England team a long time ago as IMHO he is a better footballer than both of them.

[Smirking_Saint]

If, and it's a massive "if" a club like us, Swansea or West Brom managed to somehow break into the top 4 this season I will be fascinated to see if Hodgson harnesses the obvious feel good factor in that squad and picks a group from them, for example using us as an example, Lambert, Lallana and Clyne. Lallana possesses the ability to beat a man with a trick, something not many people in the current squad can. He's a crowd pleaser, but as we all know, could score more goals. Love the lad myself, has stood by us in the lower leagues and is deserved captain IMO.

 

Looks like even I'm getting carried away now!

 

If we keep up playing a high % of english players and our relative level of success I have no doubt that we will find he will pick a group of english players from Southampton as essentially it is part of the selection process to find players who can play together and have proven they can play at a higher level.

 

In the next few years, if they keep developing then Shaw, Clyne, JWP, Lallana, Lambert (for now) and possibly Chambers and J Rod could be in and around the England team.

[Smirking_Saint]

It's nonsense, based on an outdated rule that no longer exists.

 

It does exist but is taken slightly differently by the home nations in order to stop a NI player living in England for 5 years and switching nationalities.

 

I was under the assumption however that the ruling as stated in the press as '5years OVER the age of 18' is wrong as it is in fact 5 years leading up to the age of 18.

 

We looked at Cudicini, Edu and Malbranque for eligibility before but I dont think we could do anything due to the 'home nation agreement' and not necessarily Fifa Statute.

[Leicestersaint]

article here making the startling observation that Adam is better than Milner. Someone needs to let hodgson know bout this!

 

http://www.football365.com/f365-features/8964451/WhoScored365

 

Adam needs to score more goals - but he is miles better than Milner and should be in the England squad.

[Saint Troy]

If fantasy footy points counted he'd be in the national team!

[Smirking_Saint]

It does exist but is taken slightly differently by the home nations in order to stop a NI player living in England for 5 years and switching nationalities.

 

I was under the assumption however that the ruling as stated in the press as '5years OVER the age of 18' is wrong as it is in fact 5 years leading up to the age of 18.

 

We looked at Cudicini, Edu and Malbranque for eligibility before but I dont think we could do anything due to the 'home nation agreement' and not necessarily Fifa Statute.

 

Im wrong. Fifa statute is 5 years after 18, not entirely sure if and how the home nations agreement would effect it though.

 

And there is no age limit to switching teams after youth level so long as you have not played at senior level in an official match not including friendlies

[Ewell]

Well England have opted for the option of drafting in Raheem Sterling after starting 1 match in the first 7. Adam Lallana, Nathan Dyer and Nathan Redmond all ignored despite all having decent starts to the season and arguably contributing more to their clubs. Another example of big club bias and not picking players on form.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24439799

[Crab Lungs]

Well England have opted for the option of drafting in Raheem Sterling after starting 1 match in the first 7. Adam Lallana, Nathan Dyer and Nathan Redmond all ignored despite all having decent starts to the season and arguably contributing more to their clubs. Another example of big club bias and not picking players on form.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24439799

 

I feels you bro.

 

You just know around 5-6 of those England places for the WC (should we qualify) will be wasted on dross.

 

For example, Tom Cleverley (pointless). James Milner (pointless). Glen Johnson (bulky and just... rubbish).

 

Possibly even Jack Rodwell, Jordan Henderson, Raheem Sterling, Stewart Downing, Ryan Bertrand, Keiron Gibbs, Phil Jones might get a look in... all, once again, pretty much pointless.

 

Some probably won't see it at that and yes, some of those players are half-decent in position... but in tournaments, surely flexible players are the key? For example, Clyne can play LB and RB, he won't play. Lallana offers more defensively and offensively than all of the midfielders I mentioned above (and even our own captain, Gerrard, who is quite frankly, massively sh1te these days) but he won't get a look in.

 

I'd go as far to say that Jack Cork was better than all of the above midfielders last year, too and if playing, he would have been this year as well.

 

Meh, f()ck England.

[Olallana]

I think this writing hits the nail...

 

http://thepremierleagueowl.com/raheem-sterling-his-england-call-up-and-the-benefits-of-not-being-a-southampton-player/

[Window Cleaner]

Ashley Cole is out of the Poland game now as well so Liverpool's U16 left back best get his kit together and head down to Wembley on his moped, should make it by Tuesday evening..