Southampton the 4th crappest town in the UK

[Barry Sanchez]

You only have to look at the whats on in Southampton, its hard not to blush but also be angry at the lack of foresight and initiative shown by the council, what have the tory bastards done with the dough over the years?

[Barry Sanchez]

Points in red. But Liverpool is twice the size of Southampton (give or take), surely a fairer comparison would be to compare it not to Liverpool, but to a similar sized city, say Derby or Hull if we're comparing how great northern cities are compared to southern ones.

 

Bath

Oxford

Plymouh

Brighton

Kendal

Carlisle

Harrogate

Ilkley

Whitby

Off the top of my head are all smaller or similar size and have far more things to do in the day for a tourist than Southampton.

 

If you want to compare solely Northern Cities as you think they are **** and dour try Chester, Glossop, Keswick and Llangollen.

[Barry Sanchez]

And dont start me on a night out in London, what a load of ****, spread out and ********, full of chavs in crap clothes.

[Whitey Grandad]

You only have to look at the whats on in Southampton, its hard not to blush but also be angry at the lack of foresight and initiative shown by the council, what have the tory bastards done with the dough over the years?

 

What dough?

 

4 years out of 17, and those in a deep recession.

[Whitey Grandad]

Bath

Oxford

Plymouh

Brighton

Kendal

Carlisle

Harrogate

Ilkley

Whitby

Off the top of my head are all smaller or similar size and have far more things to do in the day for a tourist than Southampton.

 

If you want to compare solely Northern Cities as you think they are **** and dour try Chester, Glossop, Keswick and Llangollen.

 

Ilkey? Apart from a famous chip shop just up the road what does it offer?

[Sour Mash]

Bath

Oxford

Plymouh

Brighton

Kendal

Carlisle

Harrogate

Ilkley

Whitby

Off the top of my head are all smaller or similar size and have far more things to do in the day for a tourist than Southampton.

 

If you want to compare solely Northern Cities as you think they are **** and dour try Chester, Glossop, Keswick and Llangollen.

Who's talking about what there is to do in a day for a tourist? I was replying to Pap's suggestion that Northern Cities = great, Southern Cities = crap. Out of interest, what is there to do in Carlisle, Whitby, Kendal, Plymouth and Ilkley? Genuinely didn't know they had much going on tourism wise.

[Sour Mash]

What dough?

 

4 years out of 17, and those in a deep recession.

And Southampton hasn't had the vasts sums of various public funds pumped into it in the same way a lot of other cities have.

[Sour Mash]

Ilkey? Apart from a famous chip shop just up the road what does it offer?

I think he's on a bit of a wind-up.

[Sour Mash]

And dont start me on a night out in London, what a load of ****, spread out and ********, full of chavs in crap clothes.

You get less "chavs" on a night out in London, than any other city in the country.

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

Bath

Oxford

Plymouh

Brighton

Kendal

Carlisle

Harrogate

Ilkley

Whitby

Off the top of my head are all smaller or similar size and have far more things to do in the day for a tourist than Southampton.

 

If you want to compare solely Northern Cities as you think they are **** and dour try Chester, Glossop, Keswick and Llangollen.

 

Is "what is there for tourists" the only criteria on which you're judging places? Seems a bit narrow to say the least. Glossop, Keswick and Llangollen are tiny places so it is rediculous to compare them to Southampton or any other city.

[Whitey Grandad]

Well no. Boroughs of London is London. It is London.

 

Cowes is not an "amenity" of Southampton.

 

I am not obsessed with pretending a town on an island is somehow part of a city on the mainland. (I asked before and you ignored it, how come Pompey can't lay claim to Cowes anyway?)

 

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave just before, post #137. I think you're beginning to get my point. If you include all the boroughs of London then you also have to allow Southampton the Isle of Wight.

[pap]

Points in red. But Liverpool is twice the size of Southampton (give or take), surely a fairer comparison would be to compare it not to Liverpool, but to a similar sized city, say Derby or Hull if we're comparing how great northern cities are compared to southern ones.

 

Regarding pubs, was in 1994. However, I've been back to the city several times a year. Certainly not unique to Southampton, but most of the local pubs I used to drink in have gone. The Gate and the Crown & Sceptre have both been flattened, the Hampton ( aka Old Black Cat ) has been turned into a Maccy Ds (edited this bit - early here soz). The Hobbit had a late licence even when I was in the city, as did many parts of town, but town was typically filled with jumped up arseholes looking to start trouble. The closest I tend to get these days is Bedford Place.

 

How is it more expensive than anywhere else? Hmm. Let's try a tenner for a two mile taxi ride for starters. Perhaps we can then look at the grand a month my sister gets charged for her former council house on the Flower Estates versus the 730 I pay for my detached four bedroom detached gaff in L12. The difference between buying a house has gotten much smaller since I arrived here, but there are still tons of areas where your money goes so much further than in Southampton.

 

The Liverpool 1 comparisons are obviously made with no knowledge of the city. It's a completely different beast to West Quay and the dreadful out-of-town shopping areas around it. FFS, even the US, originator of the car-essential shopping malls, doesn't pull that trick. Downtown is downtown. Liverpool 1 glues the city centre together. One side brings you out on the Albert Dock and Echo Arena, another brings you into Church Street, while yet another brings you out into the central (and beautiful) business district. Moreover, it's changed the character of the city centre in a positive way. I've picked my girls up from concerts at the Echo Arena at 11pm. On a weekend, there are still tons of families enjoying the space.

 

Points kinda taken about the relative size of the cities, but again, I'm not sure you appreciate how much the city has improved in 20 years. I was in no way culturally prepared for what greeted me in 1994. Whole streets boarded up or fenced off, large areas with high unemployment. To this day, there are still shops in some areas of Liverpool where you simply can't pick anything up. The shop attendant stands behind a perspex barrier which wraps across the entire interior of the shop. I've just moved from an area where all the off licences were like that. Even so, I'd still take Liverpool '94 over Southampton 2013. It was better then than Southampton is now, which really illustrates how Southampton has stood still or worse, travelled in the completely wrong direction.

 

I've seen your points about other places getting public money pumped into them, but I don't accept them. Those cities were left to rot for over a decade when the south was prospering. The key difference for me is honesty. People knew they were living in sh!tholes, and improved. Sotonians by contrast tend to be very defensive about the qualities of their city, which is ultimately self-defeating. The first step to addressing any problem is recognition that it exists, and while a large part of the city is in collective denial about its attributes, not much will change.

Edited 9 October, 2013 by pap

[swannymere]

I would however move back but it would not be to Southampton, it would be Curdridge way as I would live a quiet life but not as quiet as if I was in town.

 

We've had a poll, and you're not welcome.

Edited 9 October, 2013 by swannymere

[Unbelievable Jeff]

4th worst, what utter horse****.

 

Also, I've lived in London or nearby for the last 4 years, and it's a great city IF YOU HAVE MONEY. If you don't then of course it's going to be ****, but so would living most places.

 

I know a number of people who live in Portsmouth due to their Missus, but can't wait to move back to Southampton. It's a good place for people in their 20's and early 30's I reckon.

[buctootim]

I would however move back but it would not be to Southampton, it would be Curdridge way as I would live a quiet life but not as quiet as if I was in town.

There's a trailer park in Curdridge...

[Sour Mash]

Regarding pubs, was in 1994. However, I've been back to the city several times a year. Certainly not unique to Southampton, but most of the local pubs I used to drink in have gone. The Gate and the Crown & Sceptre have both been flattened, the Hampton ( aka Old Black Cat ) has been turned into a Maccy Ds (edited this bit - early here soz). The Hobbit had a late licence even when I was in the city, as did many parts of town, but town was typically filled with jumped up arseholes looking to start trouble. The closest I tend to get these days is Bedford Place.

 

How is it more expensive than anywhere else? Hmm. Let's try a tenner for a two mile taxi ride for starters. Perhaps we can then look at the grand a month my sister gets charged for her former council house on the Flower Estates versus the 730 I pay for my detached four bedroom detached gaff in L12. The difference between buying a house has gotten much smaller since I arrived here, but there are still tons of areas where your money goes so much further than in Southampton. Of course there are places that are cheaper to live than Southampton, there are also places that are much more expensive. The whole world doesn't need to revolve around comparions to Liverpool.

 

The Liverpool 1 comparisons are obviously made with no knowledge of the city I've been to Liverpool plenty of times over the years, so think I have a reasonable feel for it, I like the city, but don't pretend to be an expert on the place. It's a completely different beast to West Quay and the dreadful out-of-town shopping areas around it What "dreadful out of town shopping areas" are around West Quay? . FFS, even the US, originator of the car-essential shopping malls, doesn't pull that trick. Downtown is downtown. Liverpool 1 glues the city centre together. One side brings you out on the Albert Dock and Echo Arena, another brings you into Church Street, while yet another brings you out into the central (and beautiful) business district. Moreover, it's changed the character of the city centre in a positive way. I've picked my girls up from concerts at the Echo Arena at 11pm. On a weekend, there are still tons of families enjoying the space. I'm not an expert on Liverpool 1, I thought it was just a big shopping centre full of the usual shops, I didn't know it had loads of other stuff going on.

 

Points kinda taken about the relative size of the cities, but again, I'm not sure you appreciate how much the city has improved in 20 years. I was in no way culturally prepared for what greeted me in 1994. Whole streets boarded up or fenced off, large areas with high unemployment. To this day, there are still shops in some areas of Liverpool where you simply can't pick anything up. The shop attendant stands behind a perspex barrier which wraps across the entire interior of the shop. I've just moved from an area where all the off licences were like that. Even so, I'd still take Liverpool '94 over Southampton 2013. It was better then than Southampton is now, which really illustrates how Southampton has stood still or worse, travelled in the completely wrong direction. I've been Liverpool for more than 20 years, so have seen how it's changed and been in shops where every item is behind a metal cage. There are some horrible areas of Liverpool that are worse than any part of Southampton.

I've seen your points about other places getting public money pumped into them, but I don't accept them. You can't just not accept them, they're a fact. Southampton may be in the south, but it's not a particularly wealthy city and hasn't had a fraction of the regenration money pumped in elsewhere. Those cities were left to rot for over a decade when the south was prospering. The key difference for me is honesty. People knew they were living in sh!tholes, and improved. Sotonians by contrast tend to be very defensive about the qualities of their city, which is ultimately self-defeating. The first step to addressing any problem is recognition that it exists, and while a large part of the city is in collective denial about its attributes, not much will change. Guess it depends who you know, most folk I know are fairly realistic and balanced about the positives and negatives of the city, no-one pretends it's something it's not.

Liverpool is somewhere that clearly means a lot to you, but I'm not really sure of the relevance of lengthy comparisons to a city half it's size at the opposite end of the country?

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Anyone else think BS is just doing his usual, as it's hard to moan about Saints at the minute?

[CB Saint]

According to the Telegraph. Hard to argue when you look at the photo they used.

 

Why do the tower blocks down Weston Shore continue to exist ?

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/10360428/Crap-Towns-Returns-top-ten-worst-places-in-Britain.html?frame=2694567

 

Why are we the fourth crappiest? How many cities gives their council house tenants a sea view?

[Special K]

Nowt so boring to listen to / read than a plastic scouser with something to whinge about.

[hypochondriac]

Nowt so boring to listen to / read than a plastic scouser with something to whinge about.

 

True that.

[melmacian_saint]

It doesn't really matter as most of the active population of the city does not live within the city boundaries anymore and either commute from nicer cities/towns around, IOW or other villages/towns in the SO post code area.

 

The actual city, apart from very select patches, is mostly students (who are only here for half a year really),council estates or people who are in the city to earn a living they can't achieve in their hometowns and do not have time or energy to worry about such issues such as town planning.

[melmacian_saint]

You only have to look at the whats on in Southampton, its hard not to blush but also be angry at the lack of foresight and initiative shown by the council, what have the tory bastards done with the dough over the years?

 

I thought SCC had been Labour for a while??

[CB Saint]

I thought SCC had been Labour for a while??

 

The Tories have onlyhadcontrol for 4 of the last 17 years,but Barry won't let a small thing such as a fact get in the way of his point

[aintforever]

Regarding pubs, was in 1994. However, I've been back to the city several times a year. Certainly not unique to Southampton, but most of the local pubs I used to drink in have gone. The Gate and the Crown & Sceptre have both been flattened, the Hampton ( aka Old Black Cat ) has been turned into a Maccy Ds (edited this bit - early here soz). The Hobbit had a late licence even when I was in the city, as did many parts of town, but town was typically filled with jumped up arseholes looking to start trouble. The closest I tend to get these days is Bedford Place.

 

How is it more expensive than anywhere else? Hmm. Let's try a tenner for a two mile taxi ride for starters. Perhaps we can then look at the grand a month my sister gets charged for her former council house on the Flower Estates versus the 730 I pay for my detached four bedroom detached gaff in L12. The difference between buying a house has gotten much smaller since I arrived here, but there are still tons of areas where your money goes so much further than in Southampton.

 

The Liverpool 1 comparisons are obviously made with no knowledge of the city. It's a completely different beast to West Quay and the dreadful out-of-town shopping areas around it. FFS, even the US, originator of the car-essential shopping malls, doesn't pull that trick. Downtown is downtown. Liverpool 1 glues the city centre together. One side brings you out on the Albert Dock and Echo Arena, another brings you into Church Street, while yet another brings you out into the central (and beautiful) business district. Moreover, it's changed the character of the city centre in a positive way. I've picked my girls up from concerts at the Echo Arena at 11pm. On a weekend, there are still tons of families enjoying the space.

 

Points kinda taken about the relative size of the cities, but again, I'm not sure you appreciate how much the city has improved in 20 years. I was in no way culturally prepared for what greeted me in 1994. Whole streets boarded up or fenced off, large areas with high unemployment. To this day, there are still shops in some areas of Liverpool where you simply can't pick anything up. The shop attendant stands behind a perspex barrier which wraps across the entire interior of the shop. I've just moved from an area where all the off licences were like that. Even so, I'd still take Liverpool '94 over Southampton 2013. It was better then than Southampton is now, which really illustrates how Southampton has stood still or worse, travelled in the completely wrong direction.

 

I've seen your points about other places getting public money pumped into them, but I don't accept them. Those cities were left to rot for over a decade when the south was prospering. The key difference for me is honesty. People knew they were living in sh!tholes, and improved. Sotonians by contrast tend to be very defensive about the qualities of their city, which is ultimately self-defeating. The first step to addressing any problem is recognition that it exists, and while a large part of the city is in collective denial about its attributes, not much will change.

 

There are plenty of nice town centres up north, with loads to do and great pubs etc. But the houses are cheap for one reason only, no one wants to f*cking live there because it's a sh!t hole.

 

I stayed with a mate from Uni on the outskirts, I have never seen urban deprivation that bad anywhere else in the UK, except for possibly Manchester.

 

The first thing you need in a place to live, above all else, is a job. Forget museums, tourist attractions and shopping facilities, if you have little or no income it doesn't matter where you live you will be miserable. That's why Southampton p!sses all over Liverpool.

[hypochondriac]

That and having to live with scousers.

Edited 9 October, 2013 by hypochondriac

[Whitey Grandad]

And the north is full of northerners...

[OldNick]

I'm a proud Sotonian, but have lived away from there for over 20years. Now when I visit it is not the city I recall and love. I can see why it is the 4th crappiset city, very sub standard to when I was a youngster

[Barry Sanchez]

There are plenty of nice town centres up north, with loads to do and great pubs etc. But the houses are cheap for one reason only, no one wants to f*cking live there because it's a sh!t hole.

 

I stayed with a mate from Uni on the outskirts, I have never seen urban deprivation that bad anywhere else in the UK, except for possibly Manchester.

 

The first thing you need in a place to live, above all else, is a job. Forget museums, tourist attractions and shopping facilities, if you have little or no income it doesn't matter where you live you will be miserable. That's why Southampton p!sses all over Liverpool.

 

Aint that a tad of a generalisation and also a **** argument, money over quality of life thats what you are saying, people want or have to go to London for work not Southampton, catch yourself on, Liverpool has 1000's from all over the World, Southampton does not, https://www.southampton.gov.uk/living/statsresearch/ interesting reading that.

 

Aintforever I dont brag on here about money or jobs and you can look all you want for that but I can assure you where I live is as nice an anywhere in Southampton can offer, I can absolutely guarantee that.

[CB Fry]

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave just before, post #137. I think you're beginning to get my point. If you include all the boroughs of London then you also have to allow Southampton the Isle of Wight.

 

I refer you to the fact that London is London and the Isle of Wight is not Southampton.

[Sour Mash]

Aint that a tad of a generalisation and also a **** argument, money over quality of life thats what you are saying, people want or have to go to London for work not Southampton, catch yourself on, Liverpool has 1000's from all over the World, Southampton does not, https://www.southampton.gov.uk/living/statsresearch/ interesting reading that.

 

Aintforever I dont brag on here about money or jobs and you can look all you want for that but I can assure you where I live is as nice an anywhere in Southampton can offer, I can absolutely guarantee that.

What do those stats show you? Nothing. You think the general quality of life and standard of living is overall better in Liverpool than it is in Southampton?

[aintforever]

Aint that a tad of a generalisation and also a **** argument, money over quality of life thats what you are saying, people want or have to go to London for work not Southampton, catch yourself on, Liverpool has 1000's from all over the World, Southampton does not, https://www.southampton.gov.uk/living/statsresearch/ interesting reading that.

 

Aintforever I dont brag on here about money or jobs and you can look all you want for that but I can assure you where I live is as nice an anywhere in Southampton can offer, I can absolutely guarantee that.

 

There are nice areas everywhere but fact is average house prices are dictated by how desirable an area is, the average house price in my area is £232,214, Liverpool is £129,267. Liverpool is just not a desirable location.

[Barry Sanchez]

What do those stats show you? Nothing. You think the general quality of life and standard of living is overall better in Liverpool than it is in Southampton?

 

 

I dont know for me it certainly is, for tourists also coming into and enhancing the City and spending their money also, students staying here after their studies also testify this by staying here. As I say I wouldn't move to Southampton at all, the Countryside outside yes, my family live both sides of the City in the Forest and to the East of the City so possibly there but in no way Southampton, I a married now and want different things, good restaurants, bars and music is something not on Southamptons list.

[Barry Sanchez]

There are nice areas everywhere but fact is average house prices are dictated by how desirable an area is, the average house price in my area is £232,214, Liverpool is £129,267. Liverpool is just not a desirable location.

 

To a degree but that not the issue is it? We are discussing the lack of things to do in Southampton and why it has been voted by its residents as the 4th crappest place in the UK, there are nice places everywhere and as Pap might ***** I do not live here blah blah blah he does really, he knows the area I live and its not like around where I live, as I said there is no area in Southampton nicer than the one I live, subjective I know but this is a few minutes walk from me

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30498440?search_identifier=f52bee1aae6b89e67593d66e1a5d48ce

 

 

Open your mind, you could be the reason Southampton is crap, dont accept, question why its stated, you're being ripped off.

[Sour Mash]

I dont know for me it certainly is, for tourists also coming into and enhancing the City and spending their money also, students staying here after their studies also testify this by staying here. As I say I wouldn't move to Southampton at all, the Countryside outside yes, my family live both sides of the City in the Forest and to the East of the City so possibly there but in no way Southampton, I a married now and want different things, good restaurants, bars and music is something not on Southamptons list.

It clearly is for you, but not for most people, hence the differences in demand for properties in the two cities.

[aintforever]

To a degree but that not the issue is it? We are discussing the lack of things to do in Southampton and why it has been voted by its residents as the 4th crappest place in the UK, there are nice places everywhere and as Pap might ***** I do not live here blah blah blah he does really, he knows the area I live and its not like around where I live, as I said there is no area in Southampton nicer than the one I live, subjective I know but this is a few minutes walk from me

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30498440?search_identifier=f52bee1aae6b89e67593d66e1a5d48ce

 

 

Open your mind, you could be the reason Southampton is crap, dont accept, question why its stated, you're being ripped off.

 

You can get a flat for 10 grand in Liverpool..

 

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30343078?search_identifier=0df0e39de79d8835e8c571d6f0ec43db

 

...because it's a dump, if it wasn't a dump, they would charge more than 10 grand for a flat.

[Barry Sanchez]

It clearly is for you, but not for most people, hence the differences in demand for properties in the two cities.

 

The demand in Southampton os high as people can not live anywhere else, have you considered that? Its cheaper than anywhere else so demand is lower than elsewhere in the vicinity, there lies the issue not Liverpool, Liverpool **** es all over Southampton for lifestyle for me and many others who come into the City from outside, Southampton bar the football team has sadly nothing to offer me, the wages are the same so there is no advantage,

[Barry Sanchez]

You can get a flat for 10 grand in Liverpool..

 

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30343078?search_identifier=0df0e39de79d8835e8c571d6f0ec43db

 

...because it's a dump, if it wasn't a dump, they would charge more than 10 grand for a flat.

 

You missed the boat lad, they sold 21 houses today for a £1, Bootle is 8 Miles North from me, a different World and also not in the City of Liverpool.

[aintforever]

The demand in Southampton os high as people can not live anywhere else

 

What on earth is that supposed to mean?

[Whitey Grandad]

To a degree but that not the issue is it? We are discussing the lack of things to do in Southampton and why it has been voted by its residents as the 4th crappest place in the UK, there are nice places everywhere and as Pap might ***** I do not live here blah blah blah he does really, he knows the area I live and its not like around where I live, as I said there is no area in Southampton nicer than the one I live, subjective I know but this is a few minutes walk from me

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30498440?search_identifier=f52bee1aae6b89e67593d66e1a5d48ce

 

 

Open your mind, you could be the reason Southampton is crap, dont accept, question why its stated, you're being ripped off.

 

'Voted by its residents'

You've made that bit up, but don't let the facts get in the way of your arguments.

 

 

And from the authors:

 

‘The survey is proudly unscientific, and based on emotion, as much as all the usual crime statistics, house prices, local facilities, transport and schools.’

[buctootim]

Isnt it all a bit irrelevant. Cressington Park is nicer than Weston and Chilworth is nicer than Kensington in Liverpool. What does that prove exactly?

[Barry Sanchez]

Isnt it all a bit irrelevant. Cressington Park is nicer than Weston and Chilworth is nicer than Kensington in Liverpool. What does that prove exactly?

 

It proves nothing, Cressington Park is nice than Chilworth as well though ha ha!

[Special K]

The demand in Southampton os high as people can not live anywhere else, have you considered that? Its cheaper than anywhere else so demand is lower than elsewhere in the vicinity, there lies the issue not Liverpool, Liverpool **** es all over Southampton for lifestyle for me and many others who come into the City from outside, Southampton bar the football team has sadly nothing to offer me, the wages are the same so there is no advantage,

 

For someone who is undoubtedly chuffed to have left this supposed ****ehole of a city, you have spent such an inordinate amount of time banging on about it that I'm starting to question whether you actually believe it or not - If you type it often enough, you may well convince yourself. Seriously, you should just be sat back in smug contentment, safe in the knowledge you have made the right choice that no-one else can see, instead of typing witless drivel about a place you do not care for anymore. Or is there something deeper? Could it be that you were hounded out of Southampton for being a boring miserable t**t and you can't find any mates in Scouseland because, well, you are still a boring miserable t**t. (This is only speculation btw, as I'm sure you are overwhelmed with offers of friendship from Scousers and conspiracy theorists and all the other gypo's and pikeys that Liverpool attracts.) Seriously Bazza, you are like a stuck record, mush. I get it that you don't like Southampton and that Liverpool is infinitely better. You've convinced me. In fact i'm so convinced i'm going to go to Liverpool and take a selfie outside some well known scouse landmark and post it up on here, just like that other plastic scouser does, to prove my love of it. Can't f**king wait.

[pap]

There are plenty of nice town centres up north, with loads to do and great pubs etc. But the houses are cheap for one reason only, no one wants to f*cking live there because it's a sh!t hole.

 

I stayed with a mate from Uni on the outskirts, I have never seen urban deprivation that bad anywhere else in the UK, except for possibly Manchester.

 

The first thing you need in a place to live, above all else, is a job. Forget museums, tourist attractions and shopping facilities, if you have little or no income it doesn't matter where you live you will be miserable. That's why Southampton p!sses all over Liverpool.

 

I've been out of work for six months total in almost 20 years. That was just after the dot com bubble burst. I'll happily admit that it was tough finding a job after Uni in the city, but then that was the same down South after the bubble burst.

 

I think I've been very frank about the state of the 'Pool when I got there. Even so, it was better then than Southampton is now.

 

As for the constant comparisons between Southampton and Liverpool; they're inevitable. I've lived over half my life in one and half in the other, more or less. You write about what you know. I completely accept that it's a personal viewpoint too. What suits me won't suit a Southampton lad who likes all the southern sh!t. I've qualified here, it's given me my higher education, my livelihood, my missus and kids and my standard of living.

 

So yeah, bias - definitely - but Bazza is right. Lots of people come here and never go back. I tried in the early 2000s and spent three of those six months in unemployment looking for work in Southampton. Eventually went back to Liverpool after landing a job at a major US firm.

 

Suffice to say, my personal experience doesn't bear your account out. It may sound good on the terraces, but people do actually work up here

[pap]

You missed the boat lad, they sold 21 houses today for a £1, Bootle is 8 Miles North from me, a different World and also not in the City of Liverpool.

 

It's not nice up that way.

[pap]

That and having to live with scousers.

 

Don't worry. If you ever came up here with that attitude, I don't think you'd live long

[pap]

Nowt so boring to listen to / read than a plastic scouser with something to whinge about.

 

Small guide to local slang.

 

Plastic scouser = someone from Wirral

Manc = mancunian

Wool(lyback) = anyone between Liverpool and Manc

Shandy drinking southern bastard = Southerners, including me

 

All depends if you can handle a bit of banter.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Liverpool is a great city with some great people, I love visiting, but personally prefer living on the south coast. Maybe I could be tempted to Southport or somewhere similar, but personally i prefer the quiet life here in Poole. The weather is better, there's enough pubs and restaurants for me and we're a stones throw from beautiful beaches and countryside. I've met plenty of liverpudlians over the years and not many of them ever moved back, so it can't be to everyones taste.

 

At the end of the day, if you're happy and feel you're at home, does it matter what any ody else thinks. I have lived in many places and this is the place I've most felt like I belong .

[pap]

Liverpool is a great city with some great people, I love visiting, but personally prefer living on the south coast. Maybe I could be tempted to Southport or somewhere similar, but personally i prefer the quiet life here in Poole. The weather is better, there's enough pubs and restaurants for me and we're a stones throw from beautiful beaches and countryside. I've met plenty of liverpudlians over the years and not many of them ever moved back, so it can't be to everyones taste.

 

At the end of the day, if you're happy and feel you're at home, does it matter what any ody else thinks. I have lived in many places and this is the place I've most felt like I belong .

 

Southport is a very nice town to live in, Lord D. One of the undiscovered gems of the country, and nowhere near as pricey as Formby, the footballer's town of choice. ms pap's uncle ran a pub in the city centre for a couple of decade. Only problem is that it's a bit like Resident Evil on pension day

[Lord Duckhunter]

Southport is a very nice town to live in, Lord D. One of the undiscovered gems of the country, and nowhere near as pricey as Formby, the footballer's town of choice. ms pap's uncle ran a pub in the city centre for a couple of decade. Only problem is that it's a bit like Resident Evil on pension day

 

I used to stay with a mate from Southport, whenever saints played up north . Must be 20 odd years ago now. Some great nights.My mate emigrated , so don't go there now. One thing I remember was being up there one orangeman's day , must of been around '92. Could not believe it, all marching through Southport like it was ****ing Belfast or something. Big booze up more than anything sinister, but I was not aware of it up there before I saw it. Don't know if it still goes on.

Edited 10 October, 2013 by Lord Duckhunter

[Barry Sanchez]

I used to stay with a mate from Southport, whenever saints played up north . Must be 20 odd years ago now. Some great nights.My mate emigrated , so don't go there now. One thing I remember was being up there one orangeman's day , must of been around '92. Could not believe it, all marching through Southport like it was ****ing Belfast or something. Big booze up more than anything sinister, but I was not aware of it up there before I saw it. Don't know if it still goes on.

 

It still does.