Southampton the 4th crappest town in the UK

[alpine_saint]

According to the Telegraph. Hard to argue when you look at the photo they used.

 

Why do the tower blocks down Weston Shore continue to exist ?

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/10360428/Crap-Towns-Returns-top-ten-worst-places-in-Britain.html?frame=2694567

[buctootim]

Thats just bizarrely arbitary. I know these things always are but this one take the gold star. Top 10 crappest towns in Britain include York, London, Chipping Norton and Gibraltar??

[Wes Tender]

And also 4th in the Premiership too. How fitting

[solentstars]

Thats just bizarrely arbitary. I know these things always are but this one take the gold star. Top 10 crappest towns in Britain include York, London, Chipping Norton and Gibraltar??

agree London's got to be one of the best city's in the world .

 

 

 

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[SuperMikey]

agree London's got to be one of the best city's in the world .

 

 

 

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F*cking sh!thole. Hate going there for more than a few hours (i.e. footy!)

[Whitey Grandad]

F*cking sh!thole. Hate going there for more than a few hours (i.e. footy!)

 

I'm not impressed with it myself, and I was born there.

[Pugwash]

Clearly he's never been to Slough. Even the name's enough to make one feel queasy.

[Barry Sanchez]

They are not far wrong are they, as a City its highly **** and boring, always has been and always will be until someone has the balls to change it.

[swannymere]

There's not much to do in Southampton unless you like shopping, the council have dropped the ball in the last 20 years especially when compared to Portsmouth and the amount of investment the council has managed to get.

[Barry Sanchez]

And I will add I have been saying for years the Cruise capital of the Country has nothing to offer the visitor let alone the resident, a disgrace when you think about it.

[pap]

If it wasn't for friends, family and footy, doubt I'd ever go to Southampton much. I do enjoy hearing people speak in our accent though.

[Bwanamakubwa]

Anyone else heard about the development down at town quay to create a gum wharf style area, top hotel included, moving the ferry terminal away and having a monorail from the centre of town to the water?

 

Seems far fetched but much needed

[JackanorySFC]

Anyone else heard about the development down at town quay to create a gum wharf style area, top hotel included, moving the ferry terminal away and having a monorail from the centre of town to the water?

 

Seems far fetched but much needed

 

Not sure where you've heard the monorail thing? Not seen it mentioned since the 90's when they were last in fashion (before the Simpsons absolutely destroyed them the world over). Apart from that yes, they are completely redeveloping TQ.

 

To be fair I think the City is starting to get itself together. The music events at the new Guildhall sq this summer have been superb, Portswood is getting a reputation of being somewhere you can find somewhere original to eat/ drink, the work at TQ and the plans for opening up the Waterfront not just there but near the stadium too.

 

Anyone that has spent any time travelling round the country either for work, football or family reasons will know that clearly Southampton is no way in the top 10 worst places to live (neither are London or Chipping Norton obviously, people that slag London, probably the greatest City in the World, off have rarely lived or worked there and base their experiences around Christmas shopping trips or visits to football stadiums in, Fulham/ Chelsea aside, the worst parts of each borough) places like Luton, Slough, Liverpool, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Wigan, Rotherham, Birmingham, Ashford, Milton Keynes and f***ing Pompey are all complete dives and/ or cultural cesspits.

 

Anyway I love my city, born bred and will be buried Southampton. Up the Saints!

[CylonKing]

I have to disagree completely. I live in Nottingham (itself a wonderful city) but always look forward to spending time in Southampton. I guess it is what you are looking for ultimately. We always enjoy Southampton as it has Firehouse, The Hobbit and The Dungeon and though I've not been for a few years, it has one of the best alternative nightlife's in the country. Obviously there is then watching the Saints and the town hall art gallery which last time we were there, was very very good. I love visiting Southampton, it has everything I could ever need for a long weekend. In fact, February is scheduled for our next long overdue trip and I'm already looking forward to it - Arrive Friday late afternoon, head out for a curry, onto Firehouse for a night of Metal, Saturday sees a trip to Goblets for a burger and then after a few pints, head to the stadium for the match. Then Saturday evening sees a trip to the Hobbit and the Dungeon (maybe with Chinese chips between) and then a late night special kebab on the walk back to the hotel. Pretty much a perfect Fri\Sat for me.

[jjsaint]

^ CyclonKing has a point. I enjoy Southampton and have my favourite haunts in the city. Although I went to the Hobbit once, got stoked on 'Gandalf' cocktails or whatever the f*ck they are, and had a sore liver for months. Horses for courses etc.

 

There are places that are so dire they should be burned to the ground. Luton. I mean f*ck me. Someone mentioned Slough. And most anywhere in Kent. All of Scotland & Northern Ireland. I could go on. Gibraltar's a fair shout though.

[Mattio]

MK is 10x worse, fact.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

When London, a City many regard as one of the greatest on the planet, is #1 then you know it's onto a loser.

 

Also, aren't London & Southampton Cities, not towns?

[Lighthouse]

Nowhere near being in the worst towns in Britain. I've lived in places like Lincoln and Stafford, probably 2 of the most boring settlements on Earth. If it's not boredom there are far worse sh*t holes out there. I remember our trip to Middlesbrough at the tail end of the Championship season, probably the grimmest looking city I've ever driven through, with Luton being a very strong contender.

 

Just to list a few of the worse places I've visited; Boro, Luton, Pompey, MK, Coventry, Stoke, Stafford, Lincoln, Grantham, Swindon, Yeovil, Sunderland, Rochdale, Wolverhampton, parts of Glasgow (Paisley), Leeds, Hull, Grimsby, S****horpe, Newark and Northampton.

[Whitey Grandad]

When London, a City many regard as one of the greatest on the planet, is #1 then you know it's onto a loser.

 

Also, aren't London & Southampton Cities, not towns?

 

Indeed they are.

[Sheaf Saint]

Anyone that has spent any time travelling round the country either for work, football or family reasons will know that clearly Southampton is no way in the top 10 worst places to live.

 

Yep, totally. My job takes me all over the country and there are far, far worse places to live than Southampton everywhere you go. Without even having to go too far afield either. How can Southampton be in that list yet places like Andover, Aldershot and Basingstoke aren't?

[scotty]

How is bristol not on that list? One of only two places on the planet I have vowed never to return to?

[tony13579]

Southampton has a very rich history, however tiddly places like Iron bridge have more of it on display

[Lighthouse]

How is bristol not on that list? One of only two places on the planet I have vowed never to return to?

 

I live here and it's not that bad (watch me go and get mugged now I've said that). There are rough parts like St Paul's and Easton but there are worse cities out there. It's not in the same league as Middlesbrough.

[Barry Sanchez]

When London, a City many regard as one of the greatest on the planet, is #1 then you know it's onto a loser.

 

Also, aren't London & Southampton Cities, not towns?

 

 

Who regard London as the Worlds number one City, its a World City, its an amazing City but that does not mean its a great City to live unless you have an awful lot of money, people get confused on this issue, far better Cities I have been to than London BUT these Cities dont have what London has

 

Flagstaff

Sydney

Melbourne

Montreal

Halifax

Miami Beach

Liverpool

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Who regard London as the Worlds number one City, its a World City, its an amazing City but that does not mean its a great City to live unless you have an awful lot of money, people get confused on this issue, far better Cities I have been to than London BUT these Cities dont have what London has

 

Flagstaff

Sydney

Melbourne

Montreal

Halifax

Miami Beach

Liverpool

 

I've lived in London for the majority of my life, and have never been wealthy and I still love it. I'm not saying it is the greatest or the best. BUT, to say it's one of the 10 'crappest towns in the country' is laughable.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Thinking about it, is there any Capital City/major City that isn't expensive? Or at least more expensive than the less desirable parts of the country in which a given city is located?

[saintsdan]

According to the Telegraph. Hard to argue when you look at the photo they used.

 

Why do the tower blocks down Weston Shore continue to exist ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/10360428/Crap-Towns-Returns-top-ten-worst-places-in-Britain.html?frame=2694567

 

Presumably because people live in them!

[Wes Tender]

Who regard London as the Worlds number one City, its a World City, its an amazing City but that does not mean its a great City to live unless you have an awful lot of money, people get confused on this issue, far better Cities I have been to than London BUT these Cities dont have what London has

 

Flagstaff

Sydney

Melbourne

Montreal

Halifax

Miami Beach

Liverpool

 

Liverpool? Better than London? You're on a wind-up, surely? And I presume that you mean the Halifax in Nova Scotia, rather than the English one.

[Barry Sanchez]

I've lived in London for the majority of my life, and have never been wealthy and I still love it. I'm not saying it is the greatest or the best. BUT, to say it's one of the 10 'crappest towns in the country' is laughable.

 

Where do you live in London?

[Barry Sanchez]

Liverpool? Better than London? You're on a wind-up, surely? And I presume that you mean the Halifax in Nova Scotia, rather than the English one.

Yes, Liverpool is far better to live than London for the average man, like for like few Cities can match Liverpool to be fair for that, when did you last spend any time up here?

[Barry Sanchez]

Thinking about it, is there any Capital City/major City that isn't expensive? Or at least more expensive than the less desirable parts of the country in which a given city is located?

There are far more desirable places in the UK to live than London, London is expensive because of space, its always been that way.

[Special K]

Not sure where you've heard the monorail thing? Not seen it mentioned since the 90's when they were last in fashion (before the Simpsons absolutely destroyed them the world over). Apart from that yes, they are completely redeveloping TQ.

 

To be fair I think the City is starting to get itself together. The music events at the new Guildhall sq this summer have been superb, Portswood is getting a reputation of being somewhere you can find somewhere original to eat/ drink, the work at TQ and the plans for opening up the Waterfront not just there but near the stadium too.

 

Anyone that has spent any time travelling round the country either for work, football or family reasons will know that clearly Southampton is no way in the top 10 worst places to live (neither are London or Chipping Norton obviously, people that slag London, probably the greatest City in the World, off have rarely lived or worked there and base their experiences around Christmas shopping trips or visits to football stadiums in, Fulham/ Chelsea aside, the worst parts of each borough) places like Luton, Slough, Liverpool, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Wigan, Rotherham, Birmingham, Ashford, Milton Keynes and f***ing Pompey are all complete dives and/ or cultural cesspits.

 

Anyway I love my city, born bred and will be buried Southampton. Up the Saints!

 

Agree completely. For those who don't know about the proposed develoment, details here - https://www.southampton.gov.uk/s-environment/future/ccplans/vipproj/royal-pier-waterfront.aspx

 

If it is designed and executed correctly, it will be a huge boost for the City.

[ladysaint]

Think Southampton has definitely deteriorated over the last 20 years. From my travels for football the worst places I have visited and a lot worse than Southampton are: Bradford, Blackpool,Wigan, Gillingham, Oldham, Southend and of course Portsmouth though I do think they have made a lot more of an effort than we have.

[Lighthouse]

Presumably because people live in them!

 

I think alpine has a point. We don't need these peasants, lets just get a couple of RAF Typhoons to come in and wipe the place out. Then we will have space to build that petting zoo we always wanted.

[buctootim]

far better Cities I have been to than London BUT these Cities dont have what London has

 

Flagstaff

Sydney

Melbourne

Montreal

Halifax

Miami Beach

Liverpool

 

Is that the Miami Beach with the astronomically high murder rate and the overall crime rate twice what it is in the US as a whole?

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Miami-Beach-Florida.html

[buctootim]

Think Southampton has definitely deteriorated over the last 20 years. From my travels for football the worst places I have visited and a lot worse than Southampton are: Bradford, Blackpool,Wigan, Gillingham, Oldham, Southend and of course Portsmouth though I do think they have made a lot more of an effort than we have.

 

I don't think Southampton has deteoriated, it just hasn't got better like most places have.

[swannymere]

If anyone thinks that Portsmouth is as bad or worse than Southampton they're kidding themselves, the place feels like its had money spent on infrastructure and overall has a more modern feel. Plus they've managed to get investment into the Historic Dockyards, Gunwharf, Sealife Centre, The Spinnaker Tower, D-Day museum, Royal Marines Museum, The Royal Armouries Museum. Even bloody Gosport has the Submarine Museum and Explosion and the 17th. Century Village.

Southampton has ****ed up and is missing a trick, Portsmouth has no more history than us, they've just chosen to make more of it. What are our attractions? The New Forest and Paultons Park! Why has there not been more progress on the Titanic attraction (more famous worldwide than the Victory) and why has there been no celebration of the Spitfire aside from a crappy replica near the airport? It's a disgrace and i'm amazed more hasn't been made of it.

[Barry Sanchez]

Is that the Miami Beach with the astronomically high murder rate and the overall crime rate twice what it is in the US as a whole?

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Miami-Beach-Florida.html

 

 

Yes thats the place, its an amazing place to be and not all parts are like that, whats parts of London like where most people can afford to live? Crap with crap weather, trust me along Collins Avenue and Beach Front is great, the vast majority of London is ****, the outer west is nice but many can not afford to live there, inner London is either a ghetto or so so expensive only Russians and Indians can afford it.

[Barry Sanchez]

It does tickle me people genuinely think that because we have a Forest to the left of us Southampton are a real desirable place to live, the New Forest is a desirable place to live, Southampton is a working class provincial City with nothing really happening there, its not desirable for the visitor or resindent when compared to other Cities, that does not mean I dont love the place merely I take an honest approach as I have lived in many other places and know whats better and whats worse, its boring and staid.

[aintforever]

You can't take any article seriously that says this about Morcambe...

 

"Now I'm happy to say that the town has turned a corner. Lots of the lovely old buildings that had been collapsing have been fixed up (the art-deco Midland Hotel is now just gorgeous) and there's also a new, can-do spirit about the place. On a sunny day it's one of the most beautiful places in the UK."

 

Morcambe is a complete sh!t hole. I stopped off there this summer and couldn't get out quick enough. It's the usual northern dump full of the unemployed and derelict buildings. In fact if you were to do a serious list of cr@p UK towns I doubt anywhere South of Oxford would feature in the top 50.

[Wes Tender]

If anyone thinks that Portsmouth is as bad or worse than Southampton they're kidding themselves, the place feels like its had money spent on infrastructure and overall has a more modern feel. Plus they've managed to get investment into the Historic Dockyards, Gunwharf, Sealife Centre, The Spinnaker Tower, D-Day museum, Royal Marines Museum, The Royal Armouries Museum. Even bloody Gosport has the Submarine Museum and Explosion and the 17th. Century Village.

Southampton has ****ed up and is missing a trick, Portsmouth has no more history than us, they've just chosen to make more of it. What are our attractions? The New Forest and Paultons Park! Why has there not been more progress on the Titanic attraction (more famous worldwide than the Victory) and why has there been no celebration of the Spitfire aside from a crappy replica near the airport? It's a disgrace and i'm amazed more hasn't been made of it.

 

All very well citing those museums as reasons why Skatesmouth is better than Southampton in your opinion, but that misses the point somewhat. A lot of the quality of life in a town or city isn't about museums, but about the actual environment, the housing, parks and gardens, the attractiveness of its hinterland. I suspect that once you've visited those attractions you mentioned, the city will begin to look pretty dismal with all those mean little terrace houses and shabby streets full of pikeys. And since when does Gosport get lumped together with Portsmouth?

[buctootim]

Yes thats the place, its an amazing place to be and not all parts are like that, whats parts of London like where most people can afford to live? Crap with crap weather, trust me along Collins Avenue and Beach Front is great, the vast majority of London is ****, the outer west is nice but many can not afford to live there, inner London is either a ghetto or so so expensive only Russians and Indians can afford it.

 

I'd love a visit to Miami Beach, just not maybe to live. I've always fancied a house in Warrenton, Virginia as it happens. 5 bed colonial house with 12 acres and views of the Blue Ridge mountains and Shenandoah valley for £200,000. Snow in winter, beautiful springs and autumns, warm summers. Nice traditional diner too

[swannymere]

All very well citing those museums as reasons why Skatesmouth is better than Southampton in your opinion, but that misses the point somewhat. A lot of the quality of life in a town or city isn't about museums, but about the actual environment, the housing, parks and gardens, the attractiveness of its hinterland. I suspect that once you've visited those attractions you mentioned, the city will begin to look pretty dismal with all those mean little terrace houses and shabby streets full of pikeys. And since when does Gosport get lumped together with Portsmouth?

 

I don't want to get into a slanging match or a **** waving contest which seems to be the norm on the forum these days but i didn't lump Gosport in with Portsmouth, i was stating that even Gosport has decent attractions. I'm also pointing out that investment has been made in Portsmouth whereas Southampton seems to be left behind. I agree we have many more green spaces in Southampton, but people's impressions of a city is usually made on things to do and parks are usually the reserve of the local population.

[CB Fry]

All very well citing those museums as reasons why Skatesmouth is better than Southampton in your opinion, but that misses the point somewhat. A lot of the quality of life in a town or city isn't about museums, but about the actual environment, the housing, parks and gardens, the attractiveness of its hinterland. I suspect that once you've visited those attractions you mentioned, the city will begin to look pretty dismal with all those mean little terrace houses and shabby streets full of pikeys. And since when does Gosport get lumped together with Portsmouth?

 

Southampton has just as many shabby streets and pikeys and is pretty dismal too. Even the walk down Above Bar is an absolute joke these days. Appalling.

 

And on top, Pompey has heritage/museums/attractions etc as mentioned above. At least they have them in the first place, we have barely anything except the parks, which is unique but hardly a tourist footfall driver.

[Wes Tender]

Is the debate about crappy towns to live in, or crappy towns to visit? If the former, then as I say, once you've visited the museums, art galleries, and other tourist attractions a couple of times, your interest begins to wane and you realise that you live in a sh*t-hole. And from that perpective, Portsmouth is a far bigger sh*t-hole than Southampton.

[Colinjb]

Southampton worse then Coventry, or Nuneaton, or Stoke on Trent, or god forbid Grimsby!? The crap town books are funny in their way but this is just incorrect!

[LuckyNumber7]

Yes thats the place, its an amazing place to be and not all parts are like that, whats parts of London like where most people can afford to live? Crap with crap weather, trust me along Collins Avenue and Beach Front is great, the vast majority of London is ****, the outer west is nice but many can not afford to live there, inner London is either a ghetto or so so expensive only Russians and Indians can afford it.

 

Don't agree with your views on Southampton, but you are spot on with this. Miami is a fantastic place. 90% of the parts of London I've been to have been disgusting, can't stand the place.

[Barry Sanchez]

All very well citing those museums as reasons why Skatesmouth is better than Southampton in your opinion, but that misses the point somewhat. A lot of the quality of life in a town or city isn't about museums, but about the actual environment, the housing, parks and gardens, the attractiveness of its hinterland. I suspect that once you've visited those attractions you mentioned, the city will begin to look pretty dismal with all those mean little terrace houses and shabby streets full of pikeys. And since when does Gosport get lumped together with Portsmouth?

 

Southampton City if you are going for looks is as ugly as you will find in a City, it was bombed badly but that not excuse for putting up something worse.

[Barry Sanchez]

Is the debate about crappy towns to live in, or crappy towns to visit? If the former, then as I say, once you've visited the museums, art galleries, and other tourist attractions a couple of times, your interest begins to wane and you realise that you live in a sh*t-hole. And from that perpective, Portsmouth is a far bigger sh*t-hole than Southampton.

 

Wes its not a race to the bottom, the South Coast is a cultural backwater hence everyone goes on about London which is 80 miles away and has nothing to do with the City at all, name me 5 nice areas to live in Southampton, I mean in the City boundary?

[Horley CTFC Saint]

Bizarre half the 'towns' are cities and Gib is an BOT!?!?