Broadstone Saint Posted 6 October, 2013 Share Posted 6 October, 2013 Made Garth Crooks's Team of the Week How Good Is He? Better than Antti Niemi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 6 October, 2013 Share Posted 6 October, 2013 Not yet. He's good but not that good (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan abnormal Posted 6 October, 2013 Share Posted 6 October, 2013 my favourite saints player at the moment. Was delighted when we signed him and I think there was a good chance we would have been relegated without him. Excellent goalkeeper who does the simple stuff brilliantly as well as making world class saves at vital moments. he's just as important as anyone in our defensive upturn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 October, 2013 Share Posted 6 October, 2013 He's pretty damn good. Better then Niemi? Could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 6 October, 2013 Share Posted 6 October, 2013 Tightest defense in the prem..bit of a turnaround after last year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 6 October, 2013 Share Posted 6 October, 2013 He has been absolutely superb this season. A fantastic bit of business signing him up for free! He got better and better last season and now he's had a solid preseason he is looking fit, sharp and agile. It's his positioning for me which is excellent and shows what an experienced international keeper he is. He is still relatively young for a keeper too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollysaints1 Posted 6 October, 2013 Share Posted 6 October, 2013 I'm not sure he's as good as Niemi, remember in 2003/04 Antti was arguably the best in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Arturis a commanding goalkeeper. me of Peter Schmiecal in many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 I'm a little bit in love with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Niemi was a great keeper but think Boruc may have something a bit extra he seems very intimidating and commanding as well as being a real character, he just loves the Northam singing his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 I know Celtic fans who'd have him back in a heartbeat, over Frazer Forster. (and FF is the best English keeper around at the moment). Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Can anyone think of a better goalkeeper in the Premier League at present? He's got is all - great shot-stopper, claims crosses, marshalls his defence, good distribution and his rushing out and closing down is insanely brilliant. John Hartson was raving about him on MOTD2 last night - said he was world class. On current form you can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Made Garth Crooks's Team of the Week How Good Is He? Better than Antti Niemi? Not yet IMHO, the reason being his distribution for a Prem keeper is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 I think its the best bit of business we've done in the Liebherr era. Including Lambert. Free transfer and numerous points gained through his performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Can anyone think of a better goalkeeper in the Premier League at present? He's got is all - great shot-stopper, claims crosses, marshalls his defence, good distribution and his rushing out and closing down is insanely brilliant. John Hartson was raving about him on MOTD2 last night - said he was world class. On current form you can't argue with that. I'm his biggest fan but even I will admit that this isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 He is a top top keeper, will be interesting to see how he gets on against England ! Kicking needs improvement though but it's a price we pay for everything else he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Absolutely WORLD CLASS. So glad he signed for us and enjoys playing for the mighty Saints.. Different times....but as good as any GK Saints have had... Top man. Hope England manage to put a couple past him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 I'd put him third behind Shilts & Niemi. I don't think he has the agility of Niemi, but he does have an intimidating physical presence. What lets him down is his distribution, it's no better then KD's (something which is overlooked by the KD detractors). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 He's not the best keeper in the league, nor is he matching Niemi in his prime yet, but he's in outstanding form and I'm so glad we've got him between the posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 (edited) Kicking needs improvement though but it's a price we pay for everything else he's good at. Odd that, given how good he is at other more difficult aspects of the game. You'd think that would be one of the easier things to improve on. Edited 7 October, 2013 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 how come he didn't get the assist for J-Rod goal in my Fantasy Football Team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Odd that. given how good he is at other more difficult as aspects of the game. You'd think that would be one of the easiest things to improve on. I don't think his kicking is that bad, it's just when he tries to play a pin point pass out to a full back who's stood directly on the byline it's a bit tricky for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Great keeper and although his kicking was a bit off yesterday I don't think he's that bad generally. Never seen a keeper so comfortable using both feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Easily one of the best saints keepers I have seen live, I would say he isnt that far from Niemi's level of ability if not as good. His distribution lets him down but his reactions, agility and ability to gather crosses is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 With Boruk and Lovren I now feel as good about the defence as I did in the days of Neimi and Killer and that's no disrespect to Fonte and the FBs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN9 Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Hard not to love the man... His kicking was a bit dodgy yesterday but thats nit picking. He seems to have an arrogance about him that I really like. I seem to remember the game against Arsenal last year when he made a few errors and he just laughed them off where as they may have played on another goalies mind. The fact that hes clearly mental also helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonko Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Even better than Tommy Forecast!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Hard not to love the man... His kicking was a bit dodgy yesterday but thats nit picking. He seems to have an arrogance about him that I really like. I seem to remember the game against Arsenal last year when he made a few errors and he just laughed them off where as they may have played on another goalies mind. The fact that hes clearly mental also helps... I love that his reaction to a mistake like that is to smack himself round the chops about 10 times. Absolute header, like all the best keepers. Breeds the confidence that spreads through the defence. In him, Lovren & Big Vic we have an extremely strong defensive spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Never seen a keeper so comfortable using both feet. Although naturally right-footed he injured it at Celtic and in order to continue playing did a lot of work on his left. He's unflappable no matter which foot a pass is delivered to and that's undoubtedly an asset when you've got an opposition striker rushing towards you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Made Garth Crooks's Team of the Week How Good Is He? Better than Antti Niemi? He's better than Garth Crooks' choices usually are, but then so's Fox. So was Ryan Dickson for that matter. Though I'd take Crooks' choices over Stephen O'Halloran in terms of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 how come he didn't get the assist for J-Rod goal in my Fantasy Football Team? Significant direction change caused by Chico's attempt at a clearing header before the ball came to Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 He is a top top keeper, will be interesting to see how he gets on against England ! Kicking needs improvement though but it's a price we pay for everything else he's good at. so will I. My generation is still haunted by the very mention of Tomaszewski in 1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Is Artur the player we can least afford to lose at present? If he's not there those world class saves don't get made (probably) and our new found defensive record goes to sh!t. Our D+DMs have done good, but even so those saves still needed to be made and I can't see Kelvin replicating how Boruc is playing this season. So a long term injury to AB is a frightening prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Artur for me is up there with Niemi. He was outstanding yesterday, making two world class saves. I was delighted when we got him last year as I knew what a class keeper he is. Can't wait for the England - Poland game next week. Going to be some game. Mind you I hope Rickie comes out on top still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Did anyone else see the Lovren-Fonte reaction to the second goal? I didn't, but apparently they hugged on the halfway line (my Mrs said "it was practically tongues"). Only slightly off topic, but I think the keeper and the 2 centre backs are a great part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 The memory plays tricks but, for me, he's even better than Niemi. Perhaps less spectacular but more solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/southampton-keeper-artur-boruc-scores-a-wonder-goal-in-poland-training/? Even scoring wonder goals now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 And to think some on here wanted him thrown out of the club........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 And to think some on here wanted him thrown out of the club........ Wasn't the easiest of introductions was it? Plus I'm sure it wasn't just us who wanted that moment of his career out. Don't think Boruc was at his psychological best after a summer of inactivity and ignored by the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 If we'd stuck with him in October last year we would've finished higher than 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Not yet IMHO, the reason being his distribution for a Prem keeper is terrible. His assist for JayRod's goal was intended to go somewhere else then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 His assist for JayRod's goal was intended to go somewhere else then? I think the clearances he kicked into touch were supposed to go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Made Garth Crooks's Team of the Week How Good Is He? Better than Antti Niemi? Apart from the fact that Niemi and Shilton played for Saints with a 20 year difference, it's hard to say that anyone was better than Shilts....... However, Niemi was outstanding in his time with Saints, and you could have literally counted his " bad games in a season " ..on one hand. I seem to remember quite a lot of media coverage when Boruc was first at Celtic, and I was more than pleased to see us sign him. OK he was overweight, un-trained and had a bad start, but now we see that there is a top class goalie inside him, and he's already earned us 6-7 points this season. Comparisons are odious (or so the saying goes) and I wouldn't want to try ...based on so short a time, but if he's still performing in 3-4 years time, then I'd say .. ...that I was lucky to have seen two goalies off that ilk in the same decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Did anyone else see the Lovren-Fonte reaction to the second goal? Only slightly off topic, but I think the keeper and the 2 centre backs are a great part of the team. its the old football axiom, you build a team from the back. With Shaw in, and the back line + Boruc ....I'm very pleased with the rearguard, we have many options in midfield (but maybe not a bad thing in case of injuries), all we need is to get the strikers scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Strikers win games, defences win Championships... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Apart from the fact that Niemi and Shilton played for Saints with a 20 year difference, it's hard to say that anyone was better than Shilts....... However, Niemi was outstanding in his time with Saints, and you could have literally counted his " bad games in a season " ..on one hand. I seem to remember quite a lot of media coverage when Boruc was first at Celtic, and I was more than pleased to see us sign him. OK he was overweight, un-trained and had a bad start, but now we see that there is a top class goalie inside him, and he's already earned us 6-7 points this season. Comparisons are odious (or so the saying goes) and I wouldn't want to try ...based on so short a time, but if he's still performing in 3-4 years time, then I'd say .. ...that I was lucky to have seen two goalies off that ilk in the same decade. You were lucky to see them play for us in the same decade, as no one else did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 If a goalkeepers only weakness is his distribution with his feets.....well then I see no problem... The key is he can be used in tight situations and can get the ball away with both feets, that´s actually not that common amongst goalkeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargeld Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 copied from polish website I know that it's off subject but still funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynesparksaint Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Seems he has been much better with his feet in Poland training sessions than he was on Sunday! http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/southampton-keeper-artur-boruc-scores-a-wonder-goal-in-poland-training/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Seems he has been much better with his feet in Poland training sessions than he was on Sunday! http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/southampton-keeper-artur-boruc-scores-a-wonder-goal-in-poland-training/ He was alright on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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