tajjuk Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 His future role will be number 10 I think, people seem to over look hes got great feet and is comfortable with the ball on either foot, he's darted into the box a few times and quickly shifted direction to fool defenders. If he adds some goals I think he'll get that position regularly but his versatility is playing in his favour at the moment. He also told us pre-season that he wasn't going to settle for a place on the bench and hes certainly true to his word hes pushed hard for a first team spot and earnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Two things I thought of while watching from the comfort of NBC on Saturday: 1. He was much deeper than I expected, really another one alongside Morgan and Wanyama in that line, and covered very frequently for Clyne, esp in second half - he was almost playing right-back at some times. But he was perfectly good there. 2. We don't have anyone else quite like him. He has excellent delivery (yes even better than Fox), doesn't dribble/run too much, really good at short/long passes and always seems to have a lot of space around him (which the best passers often do). There's not really anyone else in the squad like that, or at least as good as that. I'd say fatten him up and turn him into Jan Molby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 His future role will be number 10 I think, people seem to over look hes got great feet and is comfortable with the ball on either foot, he's darted into the box a few times and quickly shifted direction to fool defenders. If he adds some goals I think he'll get that position regularly but his versatility is playing in his favour at the moment. He also told us pre-season that he wasn't going to settle for a place on the bench and hes certainly true to his word hes pushed hard for a first team spot and earnt it. Kind of agree, but to really excel in that position he will need to be able to beat a man in the way that a Lallana, Cazorla, Silva, Barkley type player can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 I didn't realise until reading this thread that it's his first name which is double barreled and not his surname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Two things I thought of while watching from the comfort of NBC on Saturday: 1. He was much deeper than I expected, really another one alongside Morgan and Wanyama in that line, and covered very frequently for Clyne, esp in second half - he was almost playing right-back at some times. But he was perfectly good there. 2. We don't have anyone else quite like him. He has excellent delivery (yes even better than Fox), doesn't dribble/run too much, really good at short/long passes and always seems to have a lot of space around him (which the best passers often do). There's not really anyone else in the squad like that, or at least as good as that. I'd say fatten him up and turn him into Jan Molby. I agree - would still like to see much more from in an attacking sense, though his set pieces justify and crosses from deep justify his inclusion alone. Moreover, he allows Clyne to play virtually as a winger, something which didn't work when he played in the same position against West Brom, Sunderland and Norwich when Clyne was injured and Chambers was unwilling to take advantage of the cover/protection JWP had given him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Ward-Prowse In the middle of the pitch Ward-Prowse... no Ward-Prowse Our ****in' great adopted Saint Ward-Prowse nah Ward-Prowse Ward Ward Ward Ward Ward Ward-Prowse Ward-Prowse Ward Ward Ward Ward Ward Ward-Prowse yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDER BUT WISER Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 I also think that taking the responsibility for set pieces help Lallana's play as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Ward-Prowse Takes a f*cking good freekick Ward-Prowse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Agree - think he does a very similar job to Davis, but JWP has a better delivery. If both are fit, I see no reason to play Davis as much as a good job hes done for us. Injuries happen - they are both important to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Agree - think he does a very similar job to Davis, but JWP has a better delivery. If both are fit, I see no reason to play Davis as much as a good job hes done for us. Not really- Davis gets further forward and has played more centrally. When he was shunted out to the right e.g. against Swansea, he struggled, forcing MP to bring JWP on and move Davis inside where he was much more effective. JWP has largely played on the right and been more of a backstop for the fullback to bomb on - a ploy which works when Clyne is in but not Chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 At 18, JWP is playing for a top 6 Prem team. QED. .......and already playing in the England U21 side , too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Two things I thought of while watching from the comfort of NBC on Saturday: 1. He was much deeper than I expected, really another one alongside Morgan and Wanyama in that line, and covered very frequently for Clyne, esp in second half - he was almost playing right-back at some times. But he was perfectly good there. 2. We don't have anyone else quite like him. He has excellent delivery (yes even better than Fox), doesn't dribble/run too much, really good at short/long passes and always seems to have a lot of space around him (which the best passers often do). There's not really anyone else in the squad like that, or at least as good as that. I'd say fatten him up and turn him into Jan Molby. These criticism were levelled at one D Beckham. He didn't turn out to be half bad. And he could deliver a good set piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Part of the reason Clyne bombed on against Fulham was to create space behind him for the ball to be played back to JWP so he could whip in his crosses from deep. Not the most subtle of tactics, but it has it's place and difficult to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 personally he was my MOM saturday, one thing i found really interesting was about 10mins in to the second half him and morgan swapped places with Clyne and Shaw. I'm guessing MP saw how slow their defence was and just let us rip at them for a 15 minute spell to scare the life out of them. It's those clever little tactical things that make me rate him so highly as a manger, i can't help but think we've got seriously, seriously lucky there. All i'm worried about for the minute is United coming in for MP and him coming back for Ward Prowse, Shaw and Clyne! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northant Saint Posted 28 October, 2013 Share Posted 28 October, 2013 Doesn't really matter if he sits on his arse in the centre circle for the majority of the game, is deliveries are world class and have provided us with some important goals already this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Thought I'd bring this thread back to the top (the one about his set-pieces wasn't quite appropriate), because yesterday demonstrated JWP's versatility IMO. Whilst his primary starting role was on the right of the supporting 3, and he often allowed Clyne to overlap and tucked in behind, when Wanyama went off, it was JWP who actually moved back into the holding role alongside Morgan, with Davis further forward. It showed to me another reason why JWP is so in favour at present (aside from being a technically excellent footballer and in great form)... he can actually play in any of the 5 'midfield' positions... either the holding role, or one of the supporting 3. And he is equally adept in ANY of those positions. Add in his set-piece delivery and I would actually suggest that his contribution to the team is more significant that he is perhaps given credit for. He cannot be dropped at present. Naturally, he won't win as much in the air as Wanyama, or be quite as strong in the tackle, BUT his mobility and unending running mean he often nicks the ball away from the opposition without needing a solid tackle or header... he is just quicker and sharper than most and is rarely shaken off by any player who is marking/shadowing. He is a truly great player in the making, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Tactically he is one of our best players and a tactically aware coach will love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Thought I'd bring this thread back to the top (the one about his set-pieces wasn't quite appropriate), because yesterday demonstrated JWP's versatility IMO. Whilst his primary starting role was on the right of the supporting 3, and he often allowed Clyne to overlap and tucked in behind, when Wanyama went off, it was JWP who actually moved back into the holding role alongside Morgan, with Davis further forward. It showed to me another reason why JWP is so in favour at present (aside from being a technically excellent footballer and in great form)... he can actually play in any of the 5 'midfield' positions... either the holding role, or one of the supporting 3. And he is equally adept in ANY of those positions. Add in his set-piece delivery and I would actually suggest that his contribution to the team is more significant that he is perhaps given credit for. He cannot be dropped at present. Naturally, he won't win as much in the air as Wanyama, or be quite as strong in the tackle, BUT his mobility and unending running mean he often nicks the ball away from the opposition without needing a solid tackle or header... he is just quicker and sharper than most and is rarely shaken off by any player who is marking/shadowing. He is a truly great player in the making, IMO. Bravo. That's my opinion too. We're so lucky to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Bravo. That's my opinion too. We're so lucky to have him. He's lucky to have us too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 cant see him getting dropped now 2 from Lambert/Rodrguez/Osvlado when all the front players are fit lallana is simply undroppable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Great player - saints legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Himself and Wiltshire will be the England CM in 2018. He's that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 Himself and Wiltshire will be the England CM in 2018. He's that good. Wiltshire won't be able to displace the 78 year old Gerrard in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 10 November, 2013 Share Posted 10 November, 2013 The skates must love it that a former nott arf krap attendee is now playing for a top prem team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Nice article http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/04/southampton-james-ward-prowse-england-world-cup?CMP=twt_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 He does like an interview that boy.......his main concern should be trying to get back into the Saints team or are Saints > England...now there's a question. Actually I think they probably are....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 He does have a great future, but at present there is no obvious place to play him. He isn't a Schneiderlin, or a Jack Cork-type and Lallana has a " roaming role " all over the pitch. For any 19 year old to already have had his experience in this divison is something quite exceptional. IMHO.....It's no cause for concern at present, he'll be there-or-there abouts for a while, before becoming a permanent fixture...in a year or two.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Not been overly impressed with him, understandably he's no longer in the starting 11. I think we'd all like to think he is one for the future, but I'm not convinced. His dead ball delivery is good, but how many goals and assists does he have? He was very poor against Burnley, although in fairness to him he was playing on the right which doesn't seem to be his best position. Think he will end up in the Championship Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 He'll make one or two telling contributions in the next couple of months and then the pendulum will swing again on this board, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonball Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 No chance of an England call up IMO, can't even hold down a spot in the Saints team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 He's struggled to operate at full potential in the last few months but that's more a reflection of his age and playing loads of games in a high intensity position. He needs a rest now and will come back better than before. Lallana had several years at a much lower level to hone his game, we need to be patient with JWP and it WILL pay dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2014 All fair points about his development but I still don't think it is evident as to what his best position is. At his age group (and in playing for England U21's) he looks like a very good holding midfielder in the middle, but I just don't think Pochettino fancies him there. And there are other things to his game I think he needs to develop when playing further forward. There is no natural position for him at the moment based on the way we play, but he is on his way to being a very good player anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 All fair points about his development but I still don't think it is evident as to what his best position is. At his age group (and in playing for England U21's) he looks like a very good holding midfielder in the middle, but I just don't think Pochettino fancies him there. And there are other things to his game I think he needs to develop when playing further forward. There is no natural position for him at the moment based on the way we play, but he is on his way to being a very good player anyhow. He is a good option in a 433 but struggles to fit in a little in a 4231. Technically excellent player though, He can learn alot from Steve Davis who you think wouldn't work in our formation either but is a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 He's developing nicely in the full glare of the strongest domestic club competition in the world. Give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 It speaks volumes about the quality of our young players that people feel like they can criticise someone who's achieved what James Ward-Prowse has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Never rated him, too lightweight. His dead-ball delivery is excellent but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Captaining England U21s this evening vs Qatar. On BTSport 1 as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Captaining England U21s this evening vs Qatar. On BTSport 1 as we speak. Under 20's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Under 20's I was only 1 out His high pressing just set up England's first goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Under 20's I'm fully aware it's the U20's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 (edited) Whoever made that Tweet is wrong, as its an under 20's tournament. Which is why Danny Ings and others played vs Wales a few days ago in an under 21 qualifier, but not in this squad because they are too old. Edited 22 May, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 yeah it's an odd age bracket tournament. remember it from the yoann folly days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMondo Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Is McEachran still under 20? Feels like he's been around for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Reminds me of a Beckham type player with his work rate passing and set pieces but without the crossing ability of Becks BUT is only 18/19 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 I wish I could see the exciting future for JWP that many on this forum believe. Neat and tidy player with a much improved dead ball and crossing set of skills. After nearly two seasons at Prem level and turning 20 in November, I can't see the predicted glittering career being fulfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 I wish I could see the exciting future for JWP that many on this forum believe. Neat and tidy player with a much improved dead ball and crossing set of skills. After nearly two seasons at Prem level and turning 20 in November, I can't see the predicted glittering career being fulfilled. Same, can see him being a solid top flight player, in the same vein as someone like Davis or Jonathan Walters but not one to set the world alight and become a top top player. I hope to be proven wrong of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 He could another Nick Holmes type player - solid, club player but maybe not much more than that. However an important part of the backbone of our team for years ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Have to agree, in the away games when VW was out when we fell apart second half (Spurs, Sunderland, Chelsea etc) he was outmuscled and out of position - think he needs to bulk up and and a bit of bite/strength if he really wants to be a PL CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Have to agree, in the away games when VW was out when we fell apart second half (Spurs, Sunderland, Chelsea etc) he was outmuscled and out of position - think he needs to bulk up and and a bit of bite/strength if he really wants to be a PL CM Where was Lallana 5 years ago. Would say Ward-Prowse is arguably a better player now than Adam was at his age. Still has time on his side IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Ward-Prowse Takes a f*cking good freekick Ward-Prowse... Don't give up the day job. Also, suggest you lie down in a quiet dark room for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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