Giordano Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 If anyone wants the (Spanish) words from the horses mouth. The Osvaldo interview which is cited is here http://www.ciudad.com.ar/espectaculos/110397/jimena-baron-daniel-osvaldo-enamorados-futuros-papas-hablaron-desde-inglaterra Thanks for that. Just as i thought. typical journo second hand turning around innocent answers to questions ****e. Hes sitting there happy on the sofa with his missus and saying straightforward stuff noone would say was out of order but somehow they manage to get a sensationalist story out of it. that's it. I'm not buying the mirror anymore. ( i never ever did of course but this settles it!) oops tell a lie i read the sports pages in the barbers few weeks back,. wont do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 His body language leaving the ground earlier was interesting to say the least. Dani Osvaldo @danistone25 31m I'm happy in the premier league and i Love Southampton !!! I do not understand why false things write... He's probably been bollocked for doing an unauthorised presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 He's been complete crap tbh, he's been no improvement on Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 He's been complete crap tbh, he's been no improvement on Rodriguez. You would have started with Rodriguez instead of Osvaldo yesterday then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 You would have started with Rodriguez instead of Osvaldo yesterday then? I'd play Osvaldo because he's got a better goal scoring record in the past. As it is they're both largely ineffective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 He's probably been bollocked for doing an unauthorised presser. Sounds to me like my suspicions were correct and the quotes were false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 I'd play Osvaldo because he's got a better goal scoring record in the past. As it is they're both largely ineffective As I said earlier, thought it was extremely telling that we were massively on the back foot as soon as Osvaldo picked up his knock at the start of the second half. Like Rickie he is more then just a goalscorer, his tracking back and link up play was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 (edited) Sounds to me like my suspicions were correct and the quotes were false. Thats why politicians, sports people etc rarely say anything interesting anymore - they need to be chaperoned by their own press staff to ensure the papers don't get a chance to put an 'angle' on anything. Edited 7 October, 2013 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8962416/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 As I said earlier, thought it was extremely telling that we were massively on the back foot as soon as Osvaldo picked up his knock at the start of the second half. Like Rickie he is more then just a goalscorer, his tracking back and link up play was superb. We were on the back foot most of the game, he's not more then just a goalscorer because he's not a goalscorer atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 (edited) We were on the back foot most of the game, he's not more then just a goalscorer because he's not a goalscorer atm. Not prolific yet, no. His goal against Palace was well taken though and he was fingertips away from getting one at Anfield, he is posing a definite threat. After we took the lead Swansea took the game to us as you would expect from them. We attacked with conviction and generated several chances of our own before that and the interplay between Lallana, Lambert and Osvaldo were utterly key to it. Could, indeed perhaps should have been 2 or even three up by that point. Osvaldo's mobility, strength, close control, intelligence and team ethic have been extremely heartening, he is a class act. Edited 7 October, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Not prolific yet, no. His goal against Palace was well taken though and he was fingertips away from getting one at Anfield, he is posing a definite threat. After we took the lead Swansea took the game to us as you would expect from them. We attacked with conviction and generated several chances of our own before that and the interplay between Lallana, Lambert and Osvaldo were utterly key to it. Could, indeed perhaps should have been 2 or even three up by that point. Osvaldo's mobility, strength, close control, intelligence and team ethic have been extremely heartening, he is a class act. Nothing resembling prolific, he hasn't even looked like scoring. It clearly wasn't utterly key to our attack, we scored one in 70mins when Osvaldo was on and 2 in the remaining 20 without him, even though one was disallowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Nothing resembling prolific, he hasn't even looked like scoring. It clearly wasn't utterly key to our attack, we scored one in 70mins when Osvaldo was on and 2 in the remaining 20 without him, even though one was disallowed. Except of course when he did. They say football is a game of opinions. I couldn't disagree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 (edited) this is another of those ...... " wouldn't you like to play for your boyhood favourites **Manchester United one day " ...type dumb-journo' questions. trying to make a story up where none exists... As for the .." tough physical game in the Prem" question .....what do you expect?..its the Prem. Gaston Ramirez had the same type of darn-fool question and gave the same type of response, and suddenly they said ....he wanted back to Italy. ** depending on the player who is the interviewee......read Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool etc, etc ) Edited 7 October, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Definitely got all the attributes to be a great striker for us, just seems to be trying a little too hard at the moment, and choosing the wrong option all the time when he works his way into good positions, its very early days, do you see him forming an understanding with lambert or another option? or is he better on his own upfront? the answer to any of those " thoughts / questions " is .....let's wait until we see him performing against Arsenal, Chelsea and Man.Utd. IMHO far too early to give any opinion. Some players show up better against good teams, where there is skill and flowing play, and not a defensive wall conceding free-kicks every other minute. I'd like to see him up against some class defenders, and top goalkeepers before making judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Osvaldo is on a different level to the other players (like Ramirez) our players don't spot his runs or world class passes. Can't wait to see ossie and GR together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 We have obviously got arsene and his lover John Cross worried as we have become the target of their PR machine. Dani just looks class, his close control, his cleverness, pace and stamina etc it's hard for the other guys to read him, in terms of temperament he has a bit of Zlatan about him, desperately wants to win and gets ****ed off if we don't. I think for a first time ever every purchase we have made this summer seems to be coming off. I would love to see either a proper trequartisa behind him as the lone striker or him and Jrod up front as their pace and skills could cause anyone problems. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 He's been complete crap tbh, he's been no improvement on Rodriguez. I wouldn't of known what a great player he was if i hadn't read about it on here. I've only seen him on tv so I'm probably missing out on his class movement or whatever it is. Edit: I'm not being sarcasms, I genuine accept testimony of people at game that he is great player. I am glad to hear bout it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Thanks Mr Bear You've just proved that old adage that ****ing damages your eyes haha. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 yeah is prob true! i've watched some streams and I've mostly seen him get ball, run into trouble, lose ball. We already had Rodriguez to do that! I totally accept I'm prob missing something tho, I haven't been watching him particular carefully or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 yeah is prob true! i've watched some streams and I've mostly seen him get ball, run into trouble, lose ball. We already had Rodriguez to do that! I totally accept I'm prob missing something tho, I haven't been watching him particular carefully or anything. He has done that a few times but usually when not much else on. Some of his quick link up play and movement when he is properly supported is very good. The other thing he provides is the desire to get the ball out of his feet as quick as possible and have a shot. As Pochettino says, the lad can create and score his own chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 As Pochettino says, the lad can create and score his own chances. I'd like to see him cross the ball then sprint to the 6 yard area and nod it home. Would really like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Sounds like a gaston thread from last year, just too good for our poverty championship hoofer team who are lying in the measly position of fourth. Maybe he'd be good in a top 3 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 I'd like to see him cross the ball then sprint to the 6 yard area and nod it home. Would really like that Does it in training all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Complete non-story, and wise and sensible of Dani to have seen the story and nipped it in the bud relatively early on. It's ridiculous that it even came to Dani needing to comment on it. I've been impressed by Dani so far as well, very intelligent player and good work rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 that was uncalled for.....unless you were joking I never joke about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 7 October, 2013 Share Posted 7 October, 2013 Celebrations were for his win bonus. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 He's been complete crap tbh, he's been no improvement on Rodriguez. Guess you've not been to a game then ever?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 He's a great player and a grafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Class act. Great signing. Imagine if we can keep the current first 11 and make another 3 additions as good as the 3 we brought in this Summer. All three this year have been very good upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Superb signing and will be a great player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Number two in the F365 list of struggling strikers. http://www.football365.com/topical-top-10/8962338/Top-Ten I'm guessing they are working purely on stats then what he actually brings as a forward/holding player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 So how many have written him off already? Don't feel like going back through the posts, but no doubt some of out resident "experts" should no doubt already have started the writing off process??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 So how many have written him off already? Don't feel like going back through the posts, but no doubt some of out resident "experts" should no doubt already have started the writing off process??? Probably the same people that wrote off Boruc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Probably the same people that wrote off Boruc... Not forgetting Pochettino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Not forgetting Pochettino. I thought he was still written off by some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Don't think anyone's written him off really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Way too early to judge his worth yet. It's much fairer to write off Gaston who has had a long time to get to grips with things but even he could turn it around (unlikely.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 I thought he was still written off by some Wasn't he struggling to stay in the job before the Liverpool game ;-) or was that just on here? FWIW I think he looks decent. Link up around the top of the box looks good and I'm sure he'll score a decent amount this season. Looks well set to get one of those super goals we saw from Roma just needs a good bounce once like JRod on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radio slave Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 you can clearly see he's a level or two above everyone else in the squad by his touch, movement and anticipation of what he expects others to do around him. i think it's a case of him adapting & getting used to playing with people perhaps not up to his level just yet (that's not to say the other players can't get there), since he was used to the level above at roma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 I see a lack of numbers here. How many goals do you realistically expect a 15m striker to score in a season? 10? 15? 20? How many assists? I think once he settles in, and I'd say let's give him until Xmas, that a return of 10 goals and 6 or 7 assists would be good. Next season I would expect more, 15 or so. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 What should not be overlooked is that he had no pre-season with Saints and is still trying to catch-up with the style of play and how to link with Ricky and Adam. It takes time to become a well oiled machine. Judge him after Christmas. He certainly has a physical presence that intimidates CBs and that's good because it relieves some of the pressure on Ricky who's been marked by two people ever since his England call-up. Chances will come as these two work out their routines and it could be very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 Osvaldo is on a different level to the other players (like Ramirez) our players don't spot his runs or world class passes. Can't wait to see ossie and GR together Ooowww a little stars in your eyes dreaming there I think.... GRs pass completion rate against Bristol City was about 30% at best and most certainly not 'world class'.... Whilst he may do the odd great thing it's no good to the team if we are not tight with him playing. If there one thing we have learnt this year over last it is that we need ball retention and ball winning to defend well and our existing first team squad are better than he is at this. Yes GR is flair but mostly little enough substance and reliability. It like say earning a thousand pounds in one day - amazing ......... And then nothing for two months - it doesn't pay the bills at the end of the day ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 I have been very impressed so far, his touch, movement and passing are world class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 He's been complete crap tbh, he's been no improvement on Rodriguez. He's no Jordan Rhodes, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 8 October, 2013 Share Posted 8 October, 2013 He's no Jordan Rhodes, that's for sure. No, Jordan Rhodes has scored 9 in 10 already and would score more in the Prem then Osvaldo will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 To me he doesn't look happy when forced wide. He doesn't try to beat the man on the outside or look like he is putting in much effort to cross more often looking just to get a corner. An area in which ricky excels at. Where he comes alive is with the ball at his feet in shooting distane where he can create a chance for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 No, Jordan Rhodes has scored 9 in 10 already and would score more in the Prem then Osvaldo will. that's just ridiculous. Osvaldo was Roma's top scorer last season, he's also Italy's no.9. Jordan Rhodes is a good striker in a mid-table Championship side. Get real. Rhodes wouldn't get in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 No, Jordan Rhodes has scored 9 in 10 already and would score more in the Prem then Osvaldo will. Oh yes someone who is playing for Italy and was Romas top scorer last year, isn't as good as someone playing in the championship....right....?! Not even sure Rhodes is any better than JRod?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 9 October, 2013 Share Posted 9 October, 2013 I haven't seen enough to make an opinion yet - but what exactly does he do better than Lambert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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