Whitey Grandad Posted 22 March, 2014 Share Posted 22 March, 2014 They've got names and numbers on their backs for a reason. The ref also has a number of people to help out. Awful call. If he didn't see the handball then how could he see who to send off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 March, 2014 Share Posted 22 March, 2014 (edited) Exactly. Gibbs and Oxo look very much alike. Quite how a serious accusation of racism can come out of this is bizarre. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Edited 22 March, 2014 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 22 March, 2014 Share Posted 22 March, 2014 Looks like Phil Dowd had a decent game, at least. The less said about the rest of today's referees, the better for them, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 mistakes can (and do) occur at every level of football. BUT at the highest level......every possible technical aid should be used to ensure that games are "as fair as possible " and referees are only human.... (although some players might not agree). Any one of the millions who watched the game on Sky could have seen that straight away..but not the ref. It makes a mockery of the whole idea of fair and just decision-making on the ref's part. Sending off the wrong player is more than just bad luck, but the worst of all..... is that the " offence " (in this case handball to a shot that went wide anyway)....isn't a red card offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 The ref's knob fell off at the precise moment the incident occurred. It's the only plausible explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 The ref's knob fell off at the precise moment the incident occurred. It's the only plausible explanation. I'm glad to see the time I have spent here has not been in vain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 Made my blood boil Allardyce moaning about yesterday's ref on MOTD. I reckon he got the decisions right, and it's not easy to ref the diving cheating hammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 How has Anthony Taylor done so far this season? I can't recall any shockers, which goes against the grain for this season, but I could well be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 Made my blood boil Allardyce moaning about yesterday's ref on MOTD. I reckon he got the decisions right, and it's not easy to ref the diving cheating hammers. Rooney's challenge on the defender before his first goal could easily have been given as a foul IMO, it was a challenge from the rear into the back. Not that I'm bothered, Fat Sam is a whining tw*t anyway. And the keeper should have saved it in any case, he looked like he'd been playing that game on the beach where you lift a mop into the air, spin round it 20 times then run back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 How has Anthony Taylor done so far this season? I can't recall any shockers, which goes against the grain for this season, but I could well be wrong. Had us home against Man City. Cant remember any shockers either now looking at his game list of this season.. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/anthony-taylor/profil/schiedsrichter_847.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 Rooney's challenge on the defender before his first goal could easily have been given as a foul IMO, it was a challenge from the rear into the back. Not that I'm bothered, Fat Sam is a whining tw*t anyway. And the keeper should have saved it in any case, he looked like he'd been playing that game on the beach where you lift a mop into the air, spin round it 20 times then run back. All the comparison's with Beckham's goal vs. Wimbledon are ridiculous - keeper should've saved Rooney's, it bounced right next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 March, 2014 Share Posted 23 March, 2014 All the comparison's with Beckham's goal vs. Wimbledon are ridiculous - keeper should've saved Rooney's, it bounced right next to him. Nayim's was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 April, 2014 More gash on display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 More gash on display Is this the worst season ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Another ridiculous decision to allow west ham to equalise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Embarrassingly bad refereeing. Carroll battered the keeper in the head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Another ridiculous decision to allow west ham to equalise I was just gonna say the same, Andy Carroll had his hands all over the keeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 What a shambles. All the ref's need to be pulled back in during the summer and taught how to referee by someone who knows. The whole officiating side of the game is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Disgusting goal that, typical West Ham. Poor officiating by Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Most of the shockers this year cant even be explained with that the game is much faster these days.... Refs are worse these days is the easy truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Lino's not much better -spineless bottler. Should have stood his ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I guess Andy Carroll will go to the world cup because he's such a handful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Tbf keepers are allowed to punch opponents without penalties given so maybe this is just fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Yep the Lino and ref are bad . That goal against the scousers should have been disallowed . Also the referee was miles away with the squarez penalty . How did he See that from where he was . His view would have been restricted or was he just reacting to Suarez action of slapping his wrist as that is when he blows the whistle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Yep the Lino and ref are bad . That goal against the scousers should have been disallowed . Also the referee was miles away with the squarez penalty . How did he See that from where he was . His view would have been restricted or was he just reacting to Suarez action of slapping his wrist as that is when he blows the whistle . That was a clear penalty though. Would be quite easy to see Tomkins hand movement, even if he was a bit far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Now for anyone use always uses the excuse that using replays slow down the game, well I don't see how you can say that now. Instantly the incident was shown on the screen in the ground. its ridiculous how he wouldn't turn around to just look. He definitely did't look at the screen on purpose. I mean all the time wasted by the refs conferring and the players saying their piece, another official could have had a monitor and check within seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Now for anyone use always uses the excuse that using replays slow down the game, well I don't see how you can say that now. Instantly the incident was shown on the screen in the ground. its ridiculous how he wouldn't turn around to just look. He definitely did't look at the screen on purpose. I mean all the time wasted by the refs conferring and the players saying their piece, another official could have had a monitor and check within seconds. Absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I guess Andy Carroll will go to the world cup because he's such a handful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Sclarke I'm not disputing the penalty but he was a lot closer to the Carroll incident than he was from the squarez incident and the Lino would not have seen it as they had their backs to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Now for anyone use always uses the excuse that using replays slow down the game, well I don't see how you can say that now. Instantly the incident was shown on the screen in the ground. its ridiculous how he wouldn't turn around to just look. He definitely did't look at the screen on purpose. I mean all the time wasted by the refs conferring and the players saying their piece, another official could have had a monitor and check within seconds. Yep, on this occasion it would have been quicker to review the video footage than have a chat with the linesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 And again. Never a penalty in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 It's as if the refs are trying to force the introduction of video technology by getting every decision wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 It's as if the refs are trying to force the introduction of video technology by getting every decision wrong. They're not getting every decision wrong though, the vast majority they get right. Tv coverage repeating every incident a hundred times, analysing from every angle, forums and social media reiterating the same over and over blows up the 'problem'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 And again. Never a penalty in a million years. Ref knows he's cocked up, reckon he's tried to balance it out me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 The standard of referees is worse now than it's ever been in my recollection. They are really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 They're not getting every decision wrong though, the vast majority they get right. Tv coverage repeating every incident a hundred times, analysing from every angle, forums and social media reiterating the same over and over blows up the 'problem'. Yes of course you are right but given all this scrutiny surely we now need to use video technology to help the refs if nothing else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 They're not getting every decision wrong though, the vast majority they get right. Tv coverage repeating every incident a hundred times, analysing from every angle, forums and social media reiterating the same over and over blows up the 'problem'. Mostly true, but what about when the bad decision is clearly obvious to all the fans, players and officials when displayed on a sodding great screen in the stadium directly after the incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I think people can understand referees better if they came out and explained how they looked at situations that leads to debating. Not like they have to be put in front of cameras straight after the game but at least give fans an explanation of what they saw. If its to the papers or if they can have their own website for this doesn´t matter really... Yes it will probably give some refs the opportunity to find some poor excuse at times but better than the total silence that is now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I think people can understand referees better if they came out and explained how they looked at situations that leads to debating. Not like they have to be put in front of cameras straight after the game but at least give fans an explanation of what they saw. If its to the papers or if they can have their own website for this doesn´t matter really... Yes it will probably give some refs the opportunity to find some poor excuse at times but better than the total silence that is now.... Yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I think people can understand referees better if they came out and explained how they looked at situations that leads to debating. Not like they have to be put in front of cameras straight after the game but at least give fans an explanation of what they saw. If its to the papers or if they can have their own website for this doesn´t matter really... Yes it will probably give some refs the opportunity to find some poor excuse at times but better than the total silence that is now.... Well, take the offside on Saturday. They all know by now that they got it horribly wrong. What good is it putting them in front of cameras? All it will do is humiliate them, undermine their authority and shatter their confidence. I'm sure it's hard enough knowing you've got something wrong without having to justify your actions to a baying media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Well, take the offside on Saturday. They all know by now that they got it horribly wrong. What good is it putting them in front of cameras? All it will do is humiliate them, undermine their authority and shatter their confidence. I'm sure it's hard enough knowing you've got something wrong without having to justify your actions to a baying media. As I said. It doesn´t have to be in front of cameras. Have a website and put up an explanation there to why it happened and what they will do to avoid it happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Mostly true, but what about when the bad decision is clearly obvious to all the fans, players and officials when displayed on a sodding great screen in the stadium directly after the incident? That was obviously a poor decision and shouldn't have been shown on the big screen, occasions like that won't do officials any favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 That was obviously a poor decision and shouldn't have been shown on the big screen, occasions like that won't do officials any favours. Don't show any of the goals in case they contain reffing errors? Or do you mean they should censor all reffing errors that lead to a goal? I see massive problems with either idea. Maybe you mean they should simply not have the video screens at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Don't show any of the goals in case they contain reffing errors? Or do you mean they should censor all reffing errors that lead to a goal? I see massive problems with either idea. Maybe you mean they should simply not have the video screens at all. There's a directive from the Premier league that all clubs should not show any replays that are in any way contentious. It's a directive that has been in place for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 There's a directive from the Premier league that all clubs should not show any replays that are in any way contentious. It's a directive that has been in place for years. Something that needs to change, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Don't show any of the goals in case they contain reffing errors? Or do you mean they should censor all reffing errors that lead to a goal? I see massive problems with either idea. Maybe you mean they should simply not have the video screens at all. They shouldn't show footage of an incident while the referee and linesman were trying to resolve it. But yes, taking it one step further, I reckon they probably shouldn't show anything on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Something that needs to change, then. Well yes. It was utterly ridiculous seeing the ref and linesman do all they could to not look at the big screen prior to making their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 They shouldn't show footage of an incident while the referee and linesman were trying to resolve it. Plenty of decisions take several replays and deliberations from those in the studio and/or commentating before being able to make a decision, that would also be the case if used by officials. There will be plenty that aren't instantaneous. There is a solution out there, the authorities just don't want to address it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Biggest problem was making them professional. Guaranteed salary with barely any consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 On the flip side Anyone with Insomnia catch The Football League Show last night? There was a game on there where the ref awarded a penalty and sent a chap off. His Lino called him over they had a chit chat, the referee reversed both of his decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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