Steeleye Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Author Posted 1 October, 2013 My thoughts exactly - is Matt Targett ready? Or Clyne can fill in over there with Chambers on the right.
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 and our left back cover will be???????? Clyne, with Chambers at RB. Not ideal.
JustinR Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 and our left back cover will be???????? Clyne I should imagine, Chambers playing right back.
JustinR Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 and our left back cover will be???????? Clyne I should imagine, Chambers playing right back.
Dr. Kucho Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 and our left back cover will be???????? Clyne, with Chambers going to right back. Or maybe the club think Targett is ready to be back up for Shaw.
Matthew Le God Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 (edited) Clyne, with Chambers at RB. Not ideal. I'd prefer that than Fox playing. Plus Matthew Targett is getting closer to the first team. Edited 1 October, 2013 by Matthew Le God
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 (edited) Matthew Targett is getting closer to the first team??? Edited 1 October, 2013 by Glasgow_Saint
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 I'd prefer Clyne at let back and Chambers at right back rather than Fox playing. Plus Matthew Targett is getting closer to the first team. does Targett actually train with the first team though ? I know he could be drafted in at any time but I don't see him as a regular replacement for the immediate future. Perhaps Yoshida is going to play left-back again if the need arises:scared:
itchen_dan Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Nixon says there is nothing at all in this rumour. Seems odd for Sky to run with it without any substance behind it.
DT Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Hopes dashed so soon Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
itchen_dan Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Also Chief Football Writer at The Bolton News MarcIles: Think sky need to check sources. Been told loan story for Danny fox is, quote, rubbish. #bwfc #Saints
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Don't really get the celebration, or bile aimed at Danny Fox. Probably isn't a Prem player, but don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be. Certainly hasn't done anything to deserve such disdain imo.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 There always has to be a fall guy Kelvin's glove, dems da rules. If its not him it will be Guly or Gaston.
Dig Dig Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Don't really get the celebration, or bile aimed at Danny Fox. Probably isn't a Prem player, but don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be. Certainly hasn't done anything to deserve such disdain imo. No one deserves distain really, I think all our players try. Fox is however a bit of a liability IMO as he consistently fails to do the basics right at the top level.
DT Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Very true. Mine are Fox and Kelvin. Since they've not played our results have improved markedly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Very true. Mine are Fox and Kelvin. Since they've not played our results have improved markedly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Oi you! Leave me alone!
Sour Mash Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Don't really get the celebration, or bile aimed at Danny Fox. Probably isn't a Prem player, but don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be. Certainly hasn't done anything to deserve such disdain imo. Exactly that. Served us very well in the Championship. Put in a decent performance against Bristol City the other night.
hypochondriac Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Love when people refer to mild criticism or realism as bile.
DT Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Love when people refer to mild criticism or realism as bile. I think it's a shame we sold bile Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
stevegrant Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Also suspect MLG's assertion that Matt Targett is in any way close to the first team picture is rather wide of the mark. Firstly, I've yet to see anything from him in the handful of U21 games that have been available on the various club TV channels that suggests he's anywhere near ready for that step up, and secondly he's just tweeted that he's having an X-ray on his foot this afternoon. I guess that could rule him out of any level of football for a while, depending on what it shows.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Love when people refer to mild criticism or realism as bile. Mild criticism is one thing. As I said, I don't think he is a Prem player and do think we are a weker team with him in the XI. But there have been plenty of threads where the stick he gets is way OTT.
Steeleye Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Author Posted 1 October, 2013 I think it's a shame we sold bile
Suhari Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 I think it's a shame we sold bile Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free I wish you hadn't brought that up.
The9 Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 and our left back cover will be???????? Same as it has been all season, and already used twice. Clyne, with Chambers at right back.
Nexstar Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Damn. Was ready to enjoy October 1st a national holiday.
The9 Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Also suspect MLG's assertion that Matt Targett is in any way close to the first team picture is rather wide of the mark. Firstly, I've yet to see anything from him in the handful of U21 games that have been available on the various club TV channels that suggests he's anywhere near ready for that step up What he said.
The9 Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Yoshida plays LB for Japan..... And may as well have been in Japan on the occasions he's played full back for Saints so far.
wild-saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Don't really get the celebration, or bile aimed at Danny Fox. Probably isn't a Prem player, but don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be. Certainly hasn't done anything to deserve such disdain imo. this+1
alpine_saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Clyne, with Chambers at RB. Not ideal. I also see nothing to celebrate here. Nothing to do really with the player himself. Yep. Little news snippets like this remind us that we are still small-time in the scheme of English Premier League football.... We cant even hold on to a back-up LB of the dubious quality of Danny Fox, whether it is the attraction of staying for him or our ability to pay his wages.
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 (edited) Also suspect MLG's assertion that Matt Targett is in any way close to the first team picture is rather wide of the mark. Firstly, I've yet to see anything from him in the handful of U21 games that have been available on the various club TV channels that suggests he's anywhere near ready for that step up, and secondly he's just tweeted that he's having an X-ray on his foot this afternoon. I guess that could rule him out of any level of football for a while, depending on what it shows. Given that when in 2012 MLGs explained that him expecting the ground extension to be announced "relatively soon" could be any time in the next few years, i'd imagine MLGs assertion that Targett is "getting closer to the first team" means that he is now only several years away from breaking into it. Edited 1 October, 2013 by Turkish
Colinjb Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 I do hope that he does go on loan, as much as for his own career as our own interests. He is no longer in our first team plans and in his late twenties will be approaching/enduring his peak level of performance. It's clear he isn't good enough to be in our team and has fallen behind players who are better then him despite being out of position or significantly less experienced which can only be negative to his reputation. He needs to be playing week in week out right now to be sure that his career will be prolonged to it's maximum... as with Billy Sharp it's in the best interests of both parties to part ways, surely.
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 I do hope that he does go on loan, as much as for his own career as our own interests. He is no longer in our first team plans and in his late twenties will be approaching/enduring his peak level of performance. It's clear he isn't good enough to be in our team and has fallen behind players who are better then him despite being out of position or significantly less experienced which can only be negative to his reputation. He needs to be playing week in week out right now to be sure that his career will be prolonged to it's maximum... as with Billy Sharp it's in the best interests of both parties to part ways, surely. If he goes (and it seems from the responses to the original rumour that its not as clear cut as first thought) then I'd hope we have a decent alternative first. Clyne at LB and Chambers at RB massively reduces our wide attacking threat from full back, and therefore as a team (given we're told time and again that "we don't play with wingers"). So IMO its of utmost importance to ensure that we have a decent option to replace an 18 year old who is still likely to miss a few games from knocks and injuries. Fox is poor at this level, but he's currently the best reserve LB option we have by some distance, in that the balance of the overall team is maintained in other areas. Switching it round for Clyne at LB is a massive compromise all round.
Colinjb Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 (edited) If he goes (and it seems from the responses to the original rumour that its not as clear cut as first thought) then I'd hope we have a decent alternative first. Clyne at LB and Chambers at RB massively reduces our wide attacking threat from full back, and therefore as a team (given we're told time and again that "we don't play with wingers"). So IMO its of utmost importance to ensure that we have a decent option to replace an 18 year old who is still likely to miss a few games from knocks and injuries. Fox is poor at this level, but he's currently the best reserve LB option we have by some distance, in that the balance of the overall team is maintained in other areas. Switching it round for Clyne at LB is a massive compromise all round. A compromise, yes, but a better solution then playing Fox. I take no joy in holding that hardline view, but really he is a liability. I firmly believe that we should have recruited someone experienced who is approaching the twighlight of his career who would have been willing to play backup to Shaw while we try and let Targett develop. (There was someone who I felt was obviously suited.... no, lets not go there again.) Edited 1 October, 2013 by Colinjb
Barry Sanchez Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 It surely must mean we have signed or are signing someone above his ability like Brian Potter or a Dalek so thats a reason to crack open the Veuve if ever there was one....................
Barry Sanchez Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Little loyalty shown to fox here He has shown us little skill, no doubt he is probably a great bloke but that counts for nothing.
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Little loyalty shown to fox here I thought you said "that's football"?
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Little loyalty shown to fox here Yeah come on Jamie, they get paid big bucks they know the risks, that's life and that's football, surely?
Graffito Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 If he goes (and it seems from the responses to the original rumour that its not as clear cut as first thought) then I'd hope we have a decent alternative first. Clyne at LB and Chambers at RB massively reduces our wide attacking threat from full back, and therefore as a team (given we're told time and again that "we don't play with wingers"). So IMO its of utmost importance to ensure that we have a decent option to replace an 18 year old who is still likely to miss a few games from knocks and injuries. Fox is poor at this level, but he's currently the best reserve LB option we have by some distance, in that the balance of the overall team is maintained in other areas. Switching it round for Clyne at LB is a massive compromise all round. Agree with this. Clyne at left back significantly diminishes our attacking threat. Its a makeshift solution in an emergency. I personally don't like full backs playing on the opposite side. Skilled as he is Clyne's no Lahm. Targett's untested and if he's not ready I question why Fox is going if indeed he is going.
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Yeah come on Jamie, they get paid big bucks they know the risks, that's life and that's football, surely? Must be different for players than for managers, I guess.
John Boy Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 And may as well have been in Japan on the occasions he's played full back for Saints so far. He played at right back away to Stoke last December and did a great job. His natural position is where Fonte has put down roots this season.
Special K Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Given that when in 2012 MLGs explained that him expecting the ground extension to be announced "relatively soon" could be any time in the next few years, i'd imagine MLGs assertion that Targett is "getting closer to the first team" means that he is now only several years away from breaking into it.
SNSUN Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 This old rumour been going about since pre-season. Fox is good enough to cover at left back, even if I don't rate him as Premier League quality, he's far from terrible as cover. Sending him on an emergency loan does mean we can recall him if necessary too. Other than that we have options, either to put Clyne there, or Yoshida, or the left footed Jos, or even Cork who seems fairly versatile. Is Targett ready? I haven't seen him play to know...
Matthew Le God Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 (edited) and our left back cover will be???????? Clyne, with Chambers at RB. Not ideal. I'd prefer that than Fox playing. Plus Matthew Targett is getting closer to the first team. Also suspect MLG's assertion that Matt Targett is in any way close to the first team picture is rather wide of the mark. Firstly, I've yet to see anything from him in the handful of U21 games that have been available on the various club TV channels that suggests he's anywhere near ready for that step up. Featuring on the bench for the 1st team for the first time suggests he is closer to the first team than he was previously, does it not? "Getting closer to the first team" is all I asserted. As usual people on this forum taking my comments either out of context and/or twisting them. Luckily I've now had Turkish on ignore for many months now, which eases the problem. Edited 1 October, 2013 by Matthew Le God
Saint_clark Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 I also see nothing to celebrate here. Nothing to do really with the player himself. Yep. Little news snippets like this remind us that we are still small-time in the scheme of English Premier League football.... We cant even hold on to a back-up LB of the dubious quality of Danny Fox, whether it is the attraction of staying for him or our ability to pay his wages.
stevegrant Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 He sat on the bench for what was basically the reserves, and didn't even warrant a five-minute run around against a Bristol City side without a win in a proper game all season. He's at best third choice left-back (arguably 5th or 6th behind Clyne, Yoshida and even Hooiveld), which is, er, absolutely no different from last season. Edit: and nobody gives a **** who you've got on ignore
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