charliegeorgesflymo Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/sport/spurs/10706851.Spurs_make_Shaw_top_January_target/?ref=mr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/sport/spurs/10706851.Spurs_make_Shaw_top_January_target/?ref=mr Doubt Cortese would even give them the dignity of a response at that price. Very lazy journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Why would we sell to one of our champions league rivals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 My, Turkish, how incredibly witty you are. Do you think 15 million is a reasonable price? Would you sell him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 My, Turkish, how incredibly witty you are. Do you think 15 million is a reasonable price? Would you sell him? If they slung in another 5 on the 1st january yes I think i would sell him, still very naif defensively. Unsurprising at his age of course but as I see him going sooner rather than later we might as well kill 2 birds with one stone and get a real LB in now when we kind of need one and are in an attractive looking position to potential replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Unless Shaw wants to go I don't think we will sell him. Still going to be an uncomfortable January though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Unless Shaw wants to go I don't think we will sell him. Still going to be an uncomfortable January though. The article also says (without much basis in fact, of course) that he'd stay until the end of the season. £20M and upwards for a full back (albeit a very good one) is an awful lot of money and would perhaps per considered. I'd actually prefer it if he stayed than banking £20M; I guess we'll see what the resolve of the club is, if there's any substance to all this. Get a bidding war with Man United surely looking for an LB and the price could rise even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 The article also says (without much basis in fact, of course) that he'd stay until the end of the season. £20M and upwards for a full back (albeit a very good one) is an awful lot of money and would perhaps per considered. I'd actually prefer it if he stayed than banking £20M; I guess we'll see what the resolve of the club is, if there's any substance to all this. Get a bidding war with Man United surely looking for an LB and the price could rise even further. Would they be considering turning him into a left winger like they did Bale and hoping for the same sort of result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 It would take an awful lot of money, in all probability more than Spurs could / would be willing to pay. Cortese would win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 If a club did manage to lure him away, one hell of a sell on clause would have to be part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Why would we sell to one of our champions league rivals? Delusional. I just can't see spurs still being in one of the CL places at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 A meaningless story manufactured by an insignificant local newspaper, regurgitating the same old rubbish to encourage a few Spurs fans, at least those able to read, to buy the paper. A local reporter working for the East London Guardian won’t know that Southampton buys players for £15m and is not in the business of selling academy products who will be worth a lot more than that if they are not already. Neither will such a junior reporter have any real information about the plans of Tottenham Hotspur FC but it is a reminder of why Cortese has signed his star players on long-term contracts to counter the speculation that will be regularly manufactured by the media in order to write stories about the London/Manchester/Liverpool clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Would they be considering turning him into a left winger like they did Bale and hoping for the same sort of result Who knows. But it's fairly easy to see that the LB - LM step up is much harder to achieve than the LM - LB, which is much more common. Our own Wayne Bridge of course having done so. Does Shaw have that within him? I've no idea myself but, unlike Bale, I always thought Shaw is more of a defender and (comparitively) less of an attacking threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Delusional. I just can't see spurs still being in one of the CL places at the end of the season. Well, it tickled me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I think he's more likely to go to Man Utd when they get rebuffed for Leighton Baines. Really hope not. We need to stop this talent drain. He's excellent. Plus I hate Spurs, the more so since they started singing our song, the unoriginal berks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43865-The-Luke-Shaw-Rumour-thread-2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Closer to 30 million and I would say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Closer to 30 million and I would say yes. Why? I understand why or Shaw or Cortese might be tempted, but as a fan, why would you want to sell a player that we would be unlikely to replace with somebody of the same calibre? You do realise that even with 30m, we couldn't attract a player proven to be as good as Shaw, don't you? I don't care if the privately owned club make 30m in player sales, I want to see Shaw play for saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Delusional. I just can't see spurs still being in one of the CL places at the end of the season. You're not the steepest hill in the fjord are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timayes Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Why? I understand why or Shaw or Cortese might be tempted, but as a fan, why would you want to sell a player that we would be unlikely to replace with somebody of the same calibre? You do realise that even with 30m, we couldn't attract a player proven to be as good as Shaw, don't you? I don't care if the privately owned club make 30m in player sales, I want to see Shaw play for saints. Absolutely this - much more pride in seeing home grown talent emerge, come on and excel compared to having bragging rights of having sold a really expensive left back, and replacing it with cheaper foreign 'talent' The longer Luke stays and wears our colours the better. Also what difference does it actually make to anyone here whether it s £15m or £30m, some people actually seem to think the club is their own business!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Why? I understand why or Shaw or Cortese might be tempted, but as a fan, why would you want to sell a player that we would be unlikely to replace with somebody of the same calibre? You do realise that even with 30m, we couldn't attract a player proven to be as good as Shaw, don't you? I don't care if the privately owned club make 30m in player sales, I want to see Shaw play for saints. Because as the sale of Bale showed, a load of money if spent wisely can improve the entire team not just one position. Obviously this is on a smaller scale but the principle is the same. He is going to go at some point, quite possibly next summer so 30 million is good business and will allow us to strengthen significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Absolutely this - much more pride in seeing home grown talent emerge, come on and excel compared to having bragging rights of having sold a really expensive left back, and replacing it with cheaper foreign 'talent' The longer Luke stays and wears our colours the better. Also what difference does it actually make to anyone here whether it s £15m or £30m, some people actually seem to think the club is their own business!!!! Erm no they don't. If it is 30 million we are much more likely to see an even greater investment in team spending. I don't want to see Shaw go ideally but if he is going to then 30 million with a sell on clause is good business. It isn't a difficult concept to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Because as the sale of Bale showed, a load of money if spent wisely can improve the entire team not just one position. Obviously this is on a smaller scale but the principle is the same. He is going to go at some point, quite possibly next summer so 30 million is good business and will allow us to strengthen significantly. But we are already spending the money on the team, it seems that that is not dependent on selling our best players. The sale of Bale by saints helped us pay for a team that plummeted to League One and also brought us Tommy Forecast. We could have equal success by selling Shaw. I'd rather we kept Shaw, as good a player as we'll get at full-back and continued to strengthen in other areas as we have been doing. Moving down a level at left back to fund other players who, in all likelihood will be at a lower level than Shaw, may well happen, but to say it's what you would choose is madness. We want to gradually improve all positions to the quality of Shaw, not use the Shaw money to buy a team full of lesser players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Chelsea for £27m in Jan' with loan back until the summer. It's a done deal from what I've been told. I will, of course, hold my hands up if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Chelsea for £27m in Jan' with loan back until the summer. It's a done deal from what I've been told. I will, of course, hold my hands up if I'm wrong. Throw De Bruyne in and I'll consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Chelsea for £27m in Jan' with loan back until the summer. It's a done deal from what I've been told. I will, of course, hold my hands up if I'm wrong. That would be a mad price for an 18 year old if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Chelsea for £27m in Jan' with loan back until the summer. It's a done deal from what I've been told. I will, of course, hold my hands up if I'm wrong. I could well believe a deal has been agreed in principal (Linked back to when he signed a contract with us), but that is a huge amount for a left back with what will be 2 years experience. I would have guessed somewhere around the 15 - 18 million mark. For those that dismiss player sales - "Because we dont have to anymore" are just kidding themselves. We will no doubt play hardball and I think we can trust Cortese, to get the best deal, but when the big four come sniffing for any of our players, it will take a monumental effort and pay rise to keep them..... Especially if they want to go and most of them will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 If Andy Carroll is worth £35m.............................. If Bale is worth £85m.......................................... If Gaston Ramirez is worth £12m........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I would have guessed somewhere around the 15 - 18 million mark. Cortese would never sell him for that in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I could well believe a deal has been agreed in principal (Linked back to when he signed a contract with us), but that is a huge amount for a left back with what will be 2 years experience. I would have guessed somewhere around the 15 - 18 million mark. For those that dismiss player sales - "Because we dont have to anymore" are just kidding themselves. We will no doubt play hardball and I think we can trust Cortese, to get the best deal, but when the big four come sniffing for any of our players, it will take a monumental effort and pay rise to keep them..... Especially if they want to go and most of them will. "Somewhere around the £15M mark" bought Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain who had just a few months of League 1 experience. Shaw would be a proven Premier League player; albeit in a different position to AOX, but if we "only" got £15M then i would say he was undervalued. £20M and upwards, i reckon the club might be tempted (although I hope we hold onto him for as long we can). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Chelsea for £27m in Jan' with loan back until the summer. can you actually do them loan-back deals in the prem? I didn't think you could do it if ur in the same league. The only ones i can think of is when club is lower league like zaha + butlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 can you actually do them loan-back deals in the prem? I didn't think you could do it if ur in the same league. The only ones i can think of is when club is lower league like zaha + butlands. I've no idea. It's just the deal I've been told. £27m 5year deal. Direct replacement for Cole. As I said, if it doesn't happen, and I hope it doesn't, then I'll hold my hands up and apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I dunno if apologies will be enough VFTT. Can't you do a forfeit like SuperMikey? He is gonna suck himself off + do twerks on grandmothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I dunno if apologies will be enough VFTT. Can't you do a forfeit like SuperMikey? He is gonna suck himself off + do twerks on grandmothers. I'm not doing both ffs Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Just do it Mikey or we will expose your sordid podcast past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 If the idea is to have a home grown team we won't be selling. those days are gone, who would want to join a declining Man U in place of a rising Saints? We are the club of the future which will become the biggest single supplier to the English world cup effort in 2020, Shaw among them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Chelsea for £27m in Jan' with loan back until the summer. It's a done deal from what I've been told. I will, of course, hold my hands up if I'm wrong. 27m plus Mata and we have a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Our philosophy is to populate the first team squad with players from our academy not sell them, unless Shaw wants to go Spurs and everyone else can jog on. I really enjoy watching Shaw play and would be mighty p1ssed if he left/sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Rick Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 25 million. Give Levy a piece of his own medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I very much doubt we will let any of our first team players leave in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 can you actually do them loan-back deals in the prem? I didn't think you could do it if ur in the same league. The only ones i can think of is when club is lower league like zaha + butlands. You can loan players between Prem clubs, so I'm not sure what the difference would be in this circumstance. The alternative would be to sign some sort of deal where the transfer goes through when the next window opens in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I very much doubt we will let any of our first team players leave in January. Personally I think he'll be gone next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Personally I think he'll be gone next summer. This unfortunately. But you can be sure we will get the best deal possible for him. I also hope we don't mess around for ages trying to get a new left back in, unless Targett can make the step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 I'd love it if in the event we sold him (and I'd rather we didn't) that Targett turns out to be as good as Shaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 If shaw does go (big if) we will be laughing all the way to the bank... Which is why he won't eve go to tottenham becuase levy won't let the Don screw him over... If NC sells Shaw, the deal won't just be good for saints, it will be superb... Personally can't see it. He is on a 5 year contract, it would take stupid money. Therefore won't happen unless we'd be mad not to take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 If shaw does go (big if) we will be laughing all the way to the bank... Which is why he won't eve go to tottenham becuase levy won't let the Don screw him over... If NC sells Shaw, the deal won't just be good for saints, it will be superb... Personally can't see it. He is on a 5 year contract, it would take stupid money. Therefore won't happen unless we'd be mad not to take it! ..or if the player wants to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Why? I understand why or Shaw or Cortese might be tempted, but as a fan, why would you want to sell a player that we would be unlikely to replace with somebody of the same calibre? You do realise that even with 30m, we couldn't attract a player proven to be as good as Shaw, don't you? I don't care if the privately owned club make 30m in player sales, I want to see Shaw play for saints. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 ..or if the player wants to leave. Correct, and by next summer he probably will. He'll have done all he could at Saints and he'll have options for genuine CL clubs. There is a chance that the Don gets a Ronaldo/Beckham/Bale "one more season" out of him but I think it more likely he'll go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 ...oh, and think there is no chance he'll leave in January. We can flatly refuse suitors and Shaw for a month. Summer is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 October, 2013 Share Posted 1 October, 2013 Just do it Mikey or we will expose your sordid podcast past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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