Matt Le Tiss Tribute Night

[Leicestersaint]

Very disappointed in Lambert and Lallana who on very good authority were asked to do a video message and were told by the club they were not allowed to.

 

Why on earth did they even have to ask!!!

 

And why would they not tell the club to do one!

 

They must have been pre warned that if invited or asked for something they should ask the clubs permission. Which they did and the rest is history

 

Disappointed in the lack of backbone and also the childish behaviour of the club.

 

I am afraid that I am not at all surprised - Cortese is really childish.

[manji]

Most surprised to not to hear Mike Osman mentioned. I wonder why ?

[Lord Duckhunter]

I am afraid that I am not at all surprised - Cortese is really childish.

 

If the city had honoured him, if it was for charity, if he was ill or passed away then you would have a point. Nobody has suggested it was anything other than a commercial event. Rickie and Adam would be contributing , not as supporters as I dont believe that either ever have been, but as representatives of the club. Maybe the club dont want they're emplyees being used to help the promoters profit.

 

Matt's my joint favourite player and lawrie my favourite manager, but when will this matt & lawrie roadshow end, and why should the club put someone up when its a commercial venture?

 

Who was the promoter?

[Matthew Le Tissier]

Must be awful having to work for someone and be owned 24 /7 and not be able to do anything without permission!

 

Robot springs to mind.

 

Lallana and lambert can do what they like! Don't kid yourself. Had it been the same situation but with one of rickies old team mates from Stockport it would not have been an issue

 

Its purely the fact it was Matt . That's the only reason it was not allowed! Stop kidding yourself thinking its normal practice as its not.

 

Maybe barca shouldn't have let xavi say a few words lol.

 

Pathetic

[Badger]

Matt's my joint favourite player and lawrie my favourite manager, but when will this matt & lawrie roadshow end, and why should the club put someone up when its a commercial venture?

 

 

Perhaps the "roadshow" will end when the club have done something to eclipse their achievements, and the memory of them, that Saints supporters of certain ages, carry of them.

[Gemmel]

You will never meet a man as strange as cortese. There are things that I could post that would melt this message board. Just enjoy his success.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Must be awful having to work for someone and be owned 24 /7 and not be able to do anything without permission!

 

Robot springs to mind.

 

Lallana and lambert can do what they like! Don't kid yourself. Had it been the same situation but with one of rickies old team mates from Stockport it would not have been an issue

 

Its purely the fact it was Matt . That's the only reason it was not allowed! Stop kidding yourself thinking its normal practice as its not.

 

Maybe barca shouldn't have let xavi say a few words lol.

 

Pathetic

 

Xavi wasn't appearing as a representative of Barca but as a fan, surely you can see that Adam and Rickie would be doing so as representatives of SFC. Whther you like it or not the CEO of any company is perfectly entittled to block any use of his company for commercial gain.

 

How is this much different from the after dinner circuit? Would you expect the club to hire out its employees free of charge to an explayer making money from that. Just randomly having a "tribute to night" looks suspiously like a money making oppurtunity to me. Fair play to the people who make the money and fair play to the people who want to go, who knows it maybe so sucsessful they'll have another one next year, but why should the club be slagged off for not wanting their players involved?

Edited 11 October, 2013 by Lord Duckhunter

[Lord Duckhunter]

Perhaps the "roadshow" will end when the club have done something to eclipse their achievements, and the memory of them, that Saints supporters of certain ages, carry of them.

 

I'm 49, so I'm well aware of their contribution to the club, but I dont think that automatically mean the club should support a commercial enterprise like this.

[aintforever]

I'm 49, so I'm well aware of their contribution to the club, but I dont think that automatically mean the club should support a commercial enterprise like this.

 

There is no reason why they shouldn't.

[hutch]

There is no reason why they shouldn't.

Absolutely, but they don't need to support all the commercial ventures, just the ones that I like.

[Stud mark of doom]

Schmeichel's ire at Le Tiss chipping him probably had some basis of the circumstances surrounding it. Bearing in mind that he was reckoned by many to be the World's best Keeper, he had a torrid three games, starting with 5 goals he let in against Newcastle the week before, 6 against us and then two against Chelsea the following match. 13 goals in three matches before he steadied himself and reverted to his old self.

 

Bit of a tangent but why include two goals against Chelsea in the "circumstances surrounding" schmeichel's ire whilst watching Matt's lob float over his head. Firstly, letting in 2 is hardly in the same league as 5 or 6. Secondly, he would have had to see into the future to know the next week's result. We're not talking about Hans Seagars.

[Batman]

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Must be awful having to work for someone and be owned 24 /7 and not be able to do anything without permission!

 

Robot springs to mind.

 

Lallana and lambert can do what they like! Don't kid yourself. Had it been the same situation but with one of rickies old team mates from Stockport it would not have been an issue

 

Its purely the fact it was Matt . That's the only reason it was not allowed! Stop kidding yourself thinking its normal practice as its not.

 

Maybe barca shouldn't have let xavi say a few words lol.

 

Pathetic

Yeah. Must be awful earning £30k+ a week playing top end prem football

 

How hard they must have it

[Wurzel]

I'm 49, so I'm well aware of their contribution to the club, but I dont think that automatically mean the club should support a commercial enterprise like this.

 

Exactly.

Just to emphasise the point, 2 "Evening withs......." coming up at Totton, one with MLT one with David Armstrong (the latter, IMO, a far better all round player). So should the club be sending a representative to these? As I said earlier, where do you draw the line?

[CB Fry]

Exactly.

Just to emphasise the point, 2 "Evening withs......." coming up at Totton, one with MLT one with David Armstrong (the latter, IMO, a far better all round player). So should the club be sending a representative to these? As I said earlier, where do you draw the line?

 

Except it's not "the club sending a representative", is it?

 

I have no doubt Adam Lallana would happily have contributed to something like this.

 

It takes more effort on the club's part to stop him than let him do it.

 

I love you people making out how much of a gargantuan effort for the club allowing a player to do something in his own time.

 

Oh horror, oh horror, where does the poor club draw the line? Jesus.

[Wes Tender]

Bit of a tangent but why include two goals against Chelsea in the "circumstances surrounding" schmeichel's ire whilst watching Matt's lob float over his head. Firstly, letting in 2 is hardly in the same league as 5 or 6. Secondly, he would have had to see into the future to know the next week's result. We're not talking about Hans Seagars.

 

I didn't include the two goals against him by Chelsea in his ire at the MLT lobbed goal. I included it in the statement he had a torrid three games. His ire with the MLT goal was probably because he had let in 7 goals in two games at that point and it was the second time he had been lobbed audaciously in two matches. As you say though, 11 goals conceded in two matches sounds much worse than 13 in 3.

[OldNick]

Except it's not "the club sending a representative", is it?

 

I have no doubt Adam Lallana would happily have contributed to something like this.

 

It takes more effort on the club's part to stop him than let him do it.

 

I love you people making out how much of a gargantuan effort for the club allowing a player to do something in his own time.

 

Oh horror, oh horror, where does the poor club draw the line? Jesus.

I assume it could become difficult if the event had become an anti Cortese event with Frannie and MLT having a go. If so the players would have been put in an awkward position and may have compromised themselves. Perhaps the players have loyalty to NC and might not have liked some of the anti club stuff,we dont know do we?

[Avenue Saint]

Except it's not "the club sending a representative", is it?

 

I have no doubt Adam Lallana would happily have contributed to something like this.

 

It takes more effort on the club's part to stop him than let him do it.

 

I love you people making out how much of a gargantuan effort for the club allowing a player to do something in his own time.

 

Oh horror, oh horror, where does the poor club draw the line? Jesus.

 

Are you as much of an annoying cok away from the internet?

[CB Fry]

I assume it could become difficult if the event had become an anti Cortese event with Frannie and MLT having a go. If so the players would have been put in an awkward position and may have compromised themselves. Perhaps the players have loyalty to NC and might not have liked some of the anti club stuff,we dont know do we?

 

We don't know, no. Although that line of argument has nothing to do with the "oh all of this is so awful, where does the poor club draw the line" line of argument.

 

If Adam Lallana was given the choice and said no, fair enough. Was he given the choice? We don't know. I think not, personally.

[OldNick]

We don't know, no. Although that line of argument has nothing to do with the "oh all of this is so awful, where does the poor club draw the line" line of argument.

 

If Adam Lallana was given the choice and said no, fair enough. Was he given the choice? We don't know. I think not, personally.

Was Lallana asked, it is yet another 'on good authority' post, we are always a bit wary of those. Personally I think it would have been nice if current players had made a tribute. But I can see why they didnt

[CB Fry]

Was Lallana asked, it is yet another 'on good authority' post, we are always a bit wary of those. Personally I think it would have been nice if current players had made a tribute. But I can see why they didnt

 

Yet another "on good authority" post??

 

Being my original post makes no suggestion of having any inside info, and in the best part of a decade on forums I have never once posted anything suggesting I have inside info on anything...I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

You, on the other hand, can be relied upon to post utter sh it consistently.

[THEVMAN]

Far to much being read into very few facts,thats how bull**** rumours start and then stick.

[Frank's cousin]

The usual, lets turn this into far more than it is to have dig at the club...

 

First up, we dont know what is in the players contracts re participation at external commercial events - and that plays a big part in this. Secondly, I am sure the history also plays a part - would anyone here seriously let tehir employees participate in external COMMMERCIAL events at which it might be likley the boss might be ridiculed?

 

It seems Matt and Laurie have both recognised that the club is doing great and so criticism seems churlish at best and have done good by supporting without the previous jibes. And thats what I dont get about some folks comments on here. Its not NCs job to be liked by all, to do things that we all agree with and applaud every five minutes. Its his job to do what he feels is right to get the club to exceed what most think is the ceiling of its potential. If after 4 years we wer still in L1 or mid table in Championship, fair enough, we could look at all those 'idiosyncracies and weird behaviours' some of you present as fact, yet are little more than gossip and point to these as detracting from what he is meant to be doing. But the fact remains we sit 4th in the prem... despite what some seem so intent on criticising every five minutes, whether it be some of the transfers, or his 'idiosyncracies'.

 

Does anyone really think its a big deal that current players should not be taking part in external commercial ventures where there might have been jibes undermining their employer? really? or is it just another convenient opportunity to have a go?

 

Seriously, for those that really cant stand NC - why not grow some balls and do something constructive - a la Manchester and go and form an AFC Southampton if you really dont believe the present leadership is right for the club.

[OldNick]

Yet another "on good authority" post??

 

Being my original post makes no suggestion of having any inside info, and in the best part of a decade on forums I have never once posted anything suggesting I have inside info on anything...I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

You, on the other hand, can be relied upon to post utter sh it consistently.

yet again you get all precious and jump up and down crying foul. I never said you made the 'on good authority' post. I assume you believe it is true as you have argued it to be.

I don't doubt you have ever posted anything on good authority as patently you are not able enough to do so.

I had hoped you would have debated in a civilised manner but sadly you always seem to turn your posts to bile as soon as anyone finds a flaw in your position.

[CB Fry]

yet again you get all precious and jump up and down crying foul. I never said you made the 'on good authority' post. I assume you believe it is true as you have argued it to be.

I don't doubt you have ever posted anything on good authority as patently you are not able enough to do so.

I had hoped you would have debated in a civilised manner but sadly you always seem to turn your posts to bile as soon as anyone finds a flaw in your position.

 

What flaw have you found in my position?

 

You keep going on about something said "on good authority" which I am "arguing to be true" but I have done nothing except give my own opinion.

 

Of course, debating with you is an utter waste of time. Proven again.

[OldNick]

What flaw have you found in my position?

 

You keep going on about something said "on good authority" which I am "arguing to be true" but I have done nothing except give my own opinion.

your opinions are very valid and if you put your points in a less dismissive way you would be an asset to this forum. As for the flaw in your argument, as your opinion is the opposite to mine , then your opinion must be flawed.

[OldNick]

What flaw have you found in my position?

 

You keep going on about something said "on good authority" which I am "arguing to be true" but I have done nothing except give my own opinion.

 

Of course, debating with you is an utter waste of time. Proven again.

Just when I thought you were holding back the insults, you then added the last line after posting the original post lol .

[Lord Duckhunter]

The usual, lets turn this into far more than it is to have dig at the club...

 

First up, we dont know what is in the players contracts re participation at external commercial events - and that plays a big part in this. Secondly, I am sure the history also plays a part - would anyone here seriously let tehir employees participate in external COMMMERCIAL events at which it might be likley the boss might be ridiculed?

 

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Spot on.

 

Somebody has decided to put this together to make money. Fair play to them, I think it's quite a good idea and maybe could spread to other players of other teams. They also have this Soccer Saturday tour and I see The Game podcast is going on the road as well, so there's obviously a market for this sort of stuff. But I fail to see why the club would be expected to put someone up. None of them would have played with Matt, and none to my knowledge were Saints supporters.

[Turkish]

The usual, lets turn this into far more than it is to have dig at the club...

 

First up, we dont know what is in the players contracts re participation at external commercial events - and that plays a big part in this. Secondly, I am sure the history also plays a part - would anyone here seriously let tehir employees participate in external COMMMERCIAL events at which it might be likley the boss might be ridiculed?

 

It seems Matt and Laurie have both recognised that the club is doing great and so criticism seems churlish at best and have done good by supporting without the previous jibes. And thats what I dont get about some folks comments on here. Its not NCs job to be liked by all, to do things that we all agree with and applaud every five minutes. Its his job to do what he feels is right to get the club to exceed what most think is the ceiling of its potential. If after 4 years we wer still in L1 or mid table in Championship, fair enough, we could look at all those 'idiosyncracies and weird behaviours' some of you present as fact, yet are little more than gossip and point to these as detracting from what he is meant to be doing. But the fact remains we sit 4th in the prem... despite what some seem so intent on criticising every five minutes, whether it be some of the transfers, or his 'idiosyncracies'.

 

Does anyone really think its a big deal that current players should not be taking part in external commercial ventures where there might have been jibes undermining their employer? really? or is it just another convenient opportunity to have a go?

 

Seriously, for those that really cant stand NC - why not grow some balls and do something constructive - a la Manchester and go and form an AFC Southampton if you really dont believe the present leadership is right for the club.

 

Who is this post directed at?

[Pedro]

I often wonder who posters on here would have as the perfect chairman. Rupes in the training kit, the Cardiff guy, any PFC one, the Reading one or who. I think NC has been a good chairman, up to now he has delivered everything we could have hoped for and we will miss him when he's gone, I know it's annoying how he's basically erased some of our history, changed the kit etc. but we have progressed under him, I just wish him and MLT could bury the hatchet.

[OldNick]

I often wonder who posters on here would have as the perfect chairman. Rupes in the training kit, the Cardiff guy, any PFC one, the Reading one or who. I think NC has been a good chairman, up to now he has delivered everything we could have hoped for and we will miss him when he's gone, I know it's annoying how he's basically erased some of our history, changed the kit etc. but we have progressed under him, I just wish him and MLT could bury the hatchet.

yep , I when NC leaves the club will find it hard to find somebody as able to push us forward

[hutch]

I often wonder who posters on here would have as the perfect chairman. Rupes in the training kit, the Cardiff guy, any PFC one, the Reading one or who. I think NC has been a good chairman, up to now he has delivered everything we could have hoped for and we will miss him when he's gone, I know it's annoying how he's basically erased some of our history, changed the kit etc. but we have progressed under him, I just wish him and MLT could bury the hatchet.

I think you make THEVMAN's point very well. Just because a few wierdo's on SaintsWeb forum have a pre-menstrual rant about the ongoing feud between Cortese and Le Tissier doesn't mean that it actually exists,

[aintforever]

I often wonder who posters on here would have as the perfect chairman. Rupes in the training kit, the Cardiff guy, any PFC one, the Reading one or who. I think NC has been a good chairman, up to now he has delivered everything we could have hoped for and we will miss him when he's gone, I know it's annoying how he's basically erased some of our history, changed the kit etc. but we have progressed under him, I just wish him and MLT could bury the hatchet.

 

What are you on about, I havn't read one single post that says they want anyone else as chairman.

[Gemmel]

The usual, lets turn this into far more than it is to have dig at the club...

 

First up, we dont know what is in the players contracts re participation at external commercial events - and that plays a big part in this. Secondly, I am sure the history also plays a part - would anyone here seriously let tehir employees participate in external COMMMERCIAL events at which it might be likley the boss might be ridiculed?

 

It seems Matt and Laurie have both recognised that the club is doing great and so criticism seems churlish at best and have done good by supporting without the previous jibes. And thats what I dont get about some folks comments on here. Its not NCs job to be liked by all, to do things that we all agree with and applaud every five minutes. Its his job to do what he feels is right to get the club to exceed what most think is the ceiling of its potential. If after 4 years we wer still in L1 or mid table in Championship, fair enough, we could look at all those 'idiosyncracies and weird behaviours' some of you present as fact, yet are little more than gossip and point to these as detracting from what he is meant to be doing. But the fact remains we sit 4th in the prem... despite what some seem so intent on criticising every five minutes, whether it be some of the transfers, or his 'idiosyncracies'.

 

Does anyone really think its a big deal that current players should not be taking part in external commercial ventures where there might have been jibes undermining their employer? really? or is it just another convenient opportunity to have a go?

 

Seriously, for those that really cant stand NC - why not grow some balls and do something constructive - a la Manchester and go and form an AFC Southampton if you really dont believe the present leadership is right for the club.

 

You do know that drugs are still illegal in this Country?

 

What the **** are you on about

[CB Fry]

You do know that drugs are still illegal in this Country?

 

What the **** are you on about

 

Apparently AFC Wimbledon only came into existence because Sam Hamman refused to let a couple of first team players attend a tribute service to John Fashanu.

 

And FC United was formed as a protest arising from an unauthorised Gala Dinner to Bryan Robson.

[Turkish]

Apparently AFC Wimbledon only came into existence because Sam Hamman refused to let a couple of first team players attend a tribute service to John Fashanu.

 

And FC United was formed as a protest arising from an unauthorised Gala Dinner to Bryan Robson.

 

We should be kind and cut him some slack, he's probably been on the booze again.

[Fan The Flames]

Will they take this out on tour, I would love to see it in Kent.

[dronskisaint]

Jeez...

 

Matt and a few of his friends hold a tribute night...it could have been called Matt's dazzling career - any questions?

 

A great night was had by those who attended, hopefully those who put it on didn't lose money (!) and everyone went away happy. Two jesting references to NC all evening and chuckled at by stage and audience and a wonderful wander through some magical Saints stuff.

 

Someone suggests (without any accreditation) that current players may have been prevented from doing a tribute and it turns a thread about our most skilful and loyal player's evenining in to a ***** fight! I have zero idea if it's true and without any kind of supporting information I tend to think it's probably 'unsubstantiable' to be kindest...

 

NC is running a good business it seems, that business happens to be the club that I've supported since the age of 5 and they're playing great football and doing well. Matt deserves his God status for almost single-handedly keeping us up on many occasions...they'll both be looked back at as having done great things in different ways and eras - the rest is irrelevant...particularly on a thread about lauding MLG!

[doggface]

My summary - mlt on this board is a friend of the real one, has a strong opinion is entitled to it. Pretty sure this is true but my reaction is "so what" and I am not surprised. If I was in cortese's shoes I would have done the same.

 

My opinion is that Mlt is my footballing idol and a great guy to boot. cortese is easily the best chairman we have had by a distance in my life time. His performance has wildly exceeded expectations. Unfortunately they will never get on, cortese gets most of the flack but I know mlt has turned down a peace offering on one occasion and has since slung a fair bit of mud which I think is unnecessary IMO.