Cortese settles compensation case with Adkins

[Maggie May]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2437190/Southampton-Nigel-Adkins-settle-500k-compensation.html

[Window Cleaner]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2437190/Southampton-Nigel-Adkins-settle-500k-compensation.html

 

500K£, that's not much to quibble over, thought he'd get far more than that for 3 years of outstanding contract. Works out at about 3K a week.

[Whitey Grandad]

500K£, that's not much to quibble over, thought he'd get far more than that for 3 years of outstanding contract. Works out at about 3K a week.

 

But he got a new job within two months so perhaps he was wise to settle.

[OldNick]

Poor bloke only getting 500k compensation after being plucked out from a dead end job,and then having your CV improved big time. I'm sure most of us would accept the within a heartbeat

[Delboy Dave]

Only 25 years wages for me :-)

[Wopper]

Good luck to the bloke but Cortese was right he was becoming a liability.

[Frank's cousin]

Good luck to the bloke but Cortese was right he was becoming a liability.

 

 

Never understood why it had to be all black or white, Adkins good or liability etc... Cortese made a decision that he felt was right for the club - not to **** off Adkins or fans. Not all agreed which is fair enough, but its his job to make the decisions he see fit, irrespective of popularity. Fans and some media react as if its an 'evil' decision by an 'evil person'. - the same fans most likely that call for managers heads when it clear they are in over their heads...

[Turkish]

This time last year people were describing Adkins as the new Ferguson, the next great England manager and the best manager we've very had. Now people seem to be justifying his treatment and dismissing it as something that had to be done, what short memories and lack of morals some of you have.

[Batman]

This time last year people were describing Adkins as the new Ferguson, the next great England manager and the best manager we've very had. Now people seem to be justifying his treatment and dismissing it as something that had to be done, what short memories and lack of morals some of you have.

 

what is your thoughts. was it right to move adkins on (never mind how it was done)

[Ziggy]

Glad it's sorted.

[Turkish]

what is your thoughts. was it right to move adkins on (never mind how it was done)

 

Time has proven it was the right decision, but I wasn't one of those saying Adkins was the new Ferguson. the way it was done, the time it's taken to give compensation and the fact Adkins had to take saints to court to take the Reading job are shocking way to treat a decent guy who was successful here. I'm amazed some of our holier than thou posters defend the club in this.

[Batman]

Time has proven it was the right decision, but I wasn't one of those saying Adkins was the new Ferguson. the way it was done, the time it's taken to give compensation and the fact Adkins had to take saints to court to take the Reading job are shocking way to treat a decent guy who was successful here. I'm amazed some of our holier than thou posters defend the club in this.

 

what was your stance at the time.

it was not the best away to deal with it. but that is football at the top level.

huge rewards for huge risks

[Gemmel]

I would hate to see our legal fees bill

[Batman]

I would hate to see our legal fees bill

 

probably no different to most other top clubs

[Gemmel]

probably no different to most other top clubs

 

LOL are you smoking crack?

[Turkish]

what was your stance at the time.

it was not the best away to deal with it. but that is football at the top level.

huge rewards for huge risks

 

It's nothing to do with the decision, that has proven to be right. It's the way it was done, with MP admitting he was approached while Adkins was still In situ, then the messing him about with compensation and letting him get on with his career elsewhere. What is your stance Jamie? Forget if it was the right decision or not, do you think the Adkins has been treated fairly or not?

[Batman]

It's nothing to do with the decision, that has proven to be right. It's the way it was done, with MP admitting he was approached while Adkins was still In situ, then the messing him about with compensation and letting him get on with his career elsewhere. What is your stance Jamie? Forget if it was the right decision or not, do you think the Adkins has been treated fairly or not?

 

i was annoyed at the time. more so as I never thought MP would have been up to the job. NOT adkins going as I thought we were in serious danger of going down.

 

adkins has been treated pretty bad but that is the nature of the beast. BIG bucks for big risks.

[Turkish]

i was annoyed at the time. more so as I never thought MP would have been up to the job. NOT adkins going as I thought we were in serious danger of going down.

 

adkins has been treated pretty bad but that is the nature of the beast. BIG bucks for big risks.

 

So just to clarify are you condoning the treatment or do you think it was the whole thing is totally acceptable?

Edited 29 September, 2013 by Turkish

[Batman]

So just to clarify are you condoning the treatment or do you think it was the whole thing is totally acceptable?

 

it was harsh. but that is fooball. big risks for big reqards

[KelvinsRightGlove]

So just to clarify are you condoning the treatment or do you think it was the whole thing is totally acceptable?

 

I was a big fan of Adkins.

 

After a shaky start I think he had got things back on track.

 

I'm not sure about some of the claims you made reference too, and can't really remember them too well. That's not to say some may have made those comments.

 

I do think he is a decent manager, and I think we would have stayed up with him in charge. He's still at a decent age for a manager, so see know reason why he can't do well for himself - he's hardly done bad thus far to be fair to the bloke. Prior to last season, his recent record must have been as good as any outside the top division, or at least a strong argument can be made for that. What was it, 4 promotions in 6 years? Plus he kept Scunny up, which is no mean feat.

 

Not saying he was great, the next Fergie or England manager, just thought he had potential. He always seemed like a dignified, likeable man. I would have liked to see the parting done I a better way - he deserved it I think.

 

I'm also a fan of Pochettinno, and do think he is doing a god job, and taking us in the right direction. I don't really see how anyone can see the start of this season as anything other than positive - black and white we are fifth and are disappointed by some performances and results, hardly a bad position to build a season upon in my opinion.

 

Hopefully all parties can draw a blue line under this and move on now.

 

Just my two pennies, fwiw. Got a bit carried away, soz.

 

EDIT: forgot my initial point, I can be such a plank. Rightly or wrongly, it is kind of par for the course as football is concerned. They know what they are getting themselves into. The contracts don't offer the security they are meant too. That said, they have pretty great jobs, and are paid pretty handsomely to do said jobs. Pros and cons innit.

Edited 29 September, 2013 by KelvinsRightGlove

[lordswoodsaints]

He did a decent job when he was here but he was never going to kick us on to where we want to be,my only regret about his departure was that he didn't go sooner,he should of been sacked at the end of the championship season when he very nearly fooked up our chances of promotion.

He's found his level ,he's got his compo and now we should let sleeping dogs lie.

[Turkish]

it was harsh. but that is fooball. big risks for big reqards

 

Answer the question, do you condone it or so you think it was acceptable for the club to treat a popular and successful employee like that?

[Batman]

Answer the question, do you condone it or so you think it was acceptable for the club to treat a popular and successful employee like that?

 

yes. if it means we progress.

as I have said, you take big money for big risks

[Turkish]

I was a big fan of Adkins.

 

After a shaky start I think he had got things back on track.

 

I'm not sure about some of the claims you made reference too, and can't really remember them too well. That's not to say some may have made those comments.

 

I do think he is a decent manager, and I think we would have stayed up with him in charge. He's still at a decent age for a manager, so see know reason why he can't do well for himself - he's hardly done bad thus far to be fair to the bloke. Prior to last season, his recent record must have been as good as any outside the top division, or at least a strong argument can be made for that. What was it, 4 promotions in 6 years? Plus he kept Scunny up, which is no mean feat.

 

Not saying he was great, the next Fergie or England manager, just thought he had potential. He always seemed like a dignified, likeable man. I would have liked to see the parting done I a better way - he deserved it I think.

 

I'm also a fan of Pochettinno, and do think he is doing a god job, and taking us in the right direction. I don't really see how anyone can see the start of this season as anything other than positive - black and white we are fifth and are disappointed by some performances and results, hardly a bad position to build a season upon in my opinion.

 

Hopefully all parties can draw a blue line under this and move on now.

 

Just my two pennies, fwiw. Got a bit carried away, soz.

 

And your view on his treatment?

Edited 29 September, 2013 by Turkish

[Batman]

I would go further to say we did it the right way, bar giving akdins this money straight away.

[Leslie Charteris]

It must be great to have your boss apparently right behind you when in fact he's stood there p*ssing down the back of your leg.

[Batman]

It must be great to have your boss apparently right behind you when in fact he's stood there p*ssing down the back of your leg.

 

such is life in football.

[Turkish]

yes. if it means we progress.

as I have said, you take big money for big risks

 

Okay, so you're happy to trample all over people in the name of progress. Presumably you were chuffed for Kenwyne jones when he got his big move to Sunderland after he went on strike. He was progressing his career wasn't he.

[Batman]

Okay, so you're happy to trample all over people in the name of progress. Presumably you were chuffed for Kenwyne jones when he got his big move to Sunderland after he went on strike. He was progressing his career wasn't he.

 

not chuffed but it happens in football

players get ditched at a drop of a hat when new ones come in. as do managers. at the level we are talking about, they are all heavily paid

[KelvinsRightGlove]

And your view on his treatment?

 

Yeah sorry, check the edit. told you I get carried away

[Turkish]

not chuffed but it happens in football

players get ditched at a drop of a hat when new ones come in. as do managers. at the level we are talking about, they are all heavily paid

 

Why not? He was progressing his career, surely he did it the right way to get his move?

[Leslie Charteris]

such is life in football.

 

Such is life all too often, sadly.

[Batman]

Why not? He was progressing his career, surely he did it the right way to get his move?

 

indeed. such is life in football.

[Turkish]

Well its good to see that our fans are happy to see the club shaft their own employees and popular football staff. Short memories.

[The Kraken]

Well its good to see that our fans are happy to see the club shaft their own employees and popular football staff. Short memories.

Are you really surprised given that MLT was to many on here "just an employee"?

[saint lard]

He did a decent job when he was here but he was never going to kick us on to where we want to be,my only regret about his departure was that he didn't go sooner,he should of been sacked at the end of the championship season when he very nearly fooked up our chances of promotion.

He's found his level ,he's got his compo and now we should let sleeping dogs lie.

this.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Well its good to see that our fans are happy to see the club shaft their own employees and popular football staff. Short memories.

 

Who is saying that?

 

You're arguing with yourself again.

 

No-one likes how it was done. Far from the proudest in the clubs history. But there is also an acceptance that this is the nature of the beast. There's lots of things we as fans love about, and stuff we don't. This is one of the harsher, darker sides of the game.

 

But, as I said, for anyone in football - coaching a top division team in one of the worlds better leagues is pretty much the pinnacle (clearly there is still higher to reach). It's a job millions would kill for, and they get paid very well to do it.

 

Adkins, like every other manager will have been fully aware these things happen. We are not the first club to have done it, and won't be the last either.

[david in sweden]

- or looking at it another way.....getting £500K for two months of " unemployment " sounds a good deal to me .....at least he could still pay his mortgage.

[St Chalet]

what was your stance at the time.

it was not the best away to deal with it. but that is football at the top level.

huge rewards for huge risks

 

Very prescient of you to think that at the time. Other posters appeared to think differently. Some could even argue that they had an emotional over reaction.....

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&p=1587878#post1587878

[Turkish]

Who is saying that?

 

You're arguing with yourself again.

 

No-one likes how it was done. Far from the proudest in the clubs history. But there is also an acceptance that this is the nature of the beast. There's lots of things we as fans love about, and stuff we don't. This is one of the harsher, darker sides of the game.

 

But, as I said, for anyone in football - coaching a top division team in one of the worlds better leagues is pretty much the pinnacle (clearly there is still higher to reach). It's a job millions would kill for, and they get paid very well to do it.

 

Adkins, like every other manager will have been fully aware these things happen. We are not the first club to have done it, and won't be the last either.

 

Will you for for one. Read your own edit, "its par the course" "they know what they're getting themselves into" "pros and cons innit"

 

I've also just read your reaction on the thread chalet linked 'f*ck football I'm done'

 

Like I said, short memories.

Edited 29 September, 2013 by Turkish

[Turkish]

Very prescient of you to think that at the time. Other posters appeared to think differently. Some could even argue that they had an emotional over reaction.....

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&p=1587878#post1587878

 

That was Dull days, Brett from Camden thinks differently,

[Crazy Diamond]

Hope he got what he wanted, if not, a decent amount of it. He did a great job for us and one that should never be forgotten. The way we dispensed with him was less than fair but unfortunately this is modern day football.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

£500k seems low to me - have we somehow got away with paying Adkins less than he was legally entitled to?

[St Chalet]

This is a massive kick in the balls, it feels like someone has died and I just want to wake up and find out it was all a bad dream.

 

Who knows how the new fella will do, it is a hell of a gamble.

 

Just think the way we handled it has been proper ****. Nigel will get a good pay-out and walk into a job closer to home.

 

Stand by my reaction.

[whelk]

Find myself agreeing with Turkish. Such a lack of respect and memory from some for all the work he did.

 

Some ***t saying he nearly blew our promotion - yeah the one we all thought was a certainty to happen and NA had nothing to do with it. f***** unbelievable!

[The9]

I'm still far from convinced we've progressed at all. The Liverpool result was pretty impressive, but the other 5 matches we've been anything but. Solid defensively but 38 0-0 draws probably gets you relegated.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Will you for for one. Read your own edit, "its par the course" "they know what they're getting themselves into" "pros and cons innit"

 

I've also just read your reaction on the thread chalet linked 'f*ck football I'm done'

 

Like I said, short memories.

 

I hated how it was done. I still do.

 

I over-reacted, I've said so on here since that I was a bit embarrassed about it. But I do wish it was handled a lot better.

 

As I said above, there are things in football we don't like. This is in my mind is absolutely one of them.

[Olallana]

I'm still far from convinced we've progressed at all. The Liverpool result was pretty impressive, but the other 5 matches we've been anything but. Solid defensively but 38 0-0 draws probably gets you relegated.

 

But 33 of them and 3 wins to that wont I would believe...??

[The9]

But 33 of them and 3 wins to that wont I would believe...??

 

You can believe what you like.

[Olallana]

You can believe what you like.

 

yep I can, whats your opinion on that record?

Relegation?