The9 Posted 30 September, 2013 Posted 30 September, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't try to be too clever, they could turn around and say "Yes, but the pitch could see you" Yeah, I also wouldn't ACTUALLY say this... FWIW it's the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985 that introduced the legislation (which was amended shortly after to reduce the impact on Supporters' Clubs and the football hospitality industry which was very much in its infancy at the time). Edited 30 September, 2013 by The9
The9 Posted 30 September, 2013 Posted 30 September, 2013 (edited) "(1)A person who has intoxicating liquor or an article to which this section applies in his possession— (a)at any time during the period of a designated sporting event when he is in any area of a designated sports ground from which the event may be directly viewed, or (b)while entering or trying to enter a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground,is guilty of an offence." So ignore my bit about being able to see the pitch, it's "any area of the ground from which the event may be directly viewed", which also explains why the under-stand concourse at Tranmere has a load of hatched zones and bits around the entrances to the viewing area where you can't drink because you can see the pitch. Having said that, just being drunk in a ground is also an offence : "(2)A person who is drunk in a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground or is drunk while entering or trying to enter such a ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground is guilty of an offence." Edited 30 September, 2013 by The9
Saint_clark Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Having said that, just being drunk in a ground is also an offence : "(2)A person who is drunk in a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground or is drunk while entering or trying to enter such a ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground is guilty of an offence." God knows how I haven't been chucked out in the past before then.
Viking Warrior Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Being Drunk at a Ground, how many of us were intoxicated at wembley at the Johnstones cup final. > I was well merry and had drinks in the bar at half time as well Im glad I dindt by a ticket for Stu of Romsies gig other wise I would have been sober
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Being Drunk at a Ground, how many of us were intoxicated at wembley at the Johnstones cup final. > I was well merry and had drinks in the bar at half time as well Im glad I dindt by a ticket for Stu of Romsies gig other wise I would have been sober Are you thinking of the Silverspoons debacle? Nick Illingsworth / Saints Trust organised that. RomseyStu just organised coaches to go to the Green Man pub.
bjk Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Are you thinking of the Silverspoons debacle? Nick Illingsworth / Saints Trust organised that. RomseyStu just organised coaches to go to the Green Man pub. OMG Silverspoons,what a sh ithole that place was.
Saint_clark Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 OMG Silverspoons,what a sh ithole that place was. What happened with that again?
Chez Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 A mate of mine got caught drinking from his own hip flask during the west game and had the same treatment. He phoned the head of security on the Monday after, explained that he didn't realise that he'd done wrong but acknowledged that he had, apologised for being a bell end, promised to be a good boy and got off with a warning. Personally I'd do exactly the same in your position. This. Arguing your case won't work. You will have to make a decision. Do you want to see the football or do you want to bang your head against a brick wall because you feel you are in the right (or maybe not in the wrong). If your season ticket is confiscated for the rest of the season do they give you any sort of refund? Is there any way of appealing? I guess the football supporters federation will know.
Cabrone Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 right guys I'm going to stop posting.I came on here for some advise and to all of you that offered it I'm grateful. Someone said it seemed a bit random and that's exactly what it was. I truly hope the club have the whole thing on CCTV as it will back up all I have said. Been watching saints since 1977 so let's get me banned and replaced by some glory hunter who will be gone as quick as he came. I'm guilty of naivety that's it.Any one else on hear made the odd mistake. I hope this gets sorted big time , I have spent 10s of thousands on the saints and will continue to do so if allowed. I hope to be there Sunday with you all. Up the saints and goodnight. Sounds pretty pathetic and hopefully you'll get your ticket back. Football just gets ever more sanitised and dulled down. More fans will vote with their feet, paying a small fortune to be treated like a 5 year old is not a way to encourage your customers.
Ewell Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 You might have done nothing that you consider wrong but the owner of the flask has committed a crime, you want your ticket back, name and shame, that's my advice to you. National Legislation The Government has introduced a series of legislative measures to combat hooliganism. The following types of behaviour have been made a criminal offence: Entering a stadium when drunk or in possession of alcohol Possession of a firework, flare or other pyrotechnical device Possession of alcohol on trains and/or coaches when travelling to a football match Throwing any object at or towards the pitch or spectator areas Entering the pitch without lawful excuse Indecent or racist chanting Ticket touting I knew all that except the bit about trains. Does that mean I would be breaking the law if I had a beer on the train to Waterloo and then went to watch Saints at Spurs, but would be OK to down five pints in the Hole in the Wall? As long as I wasn't completely drunk, where's the logic in that? Well I got the train down to the game from Clapham Junction to Southampton central on Saturday morning and shared a couple of cans with a Palace supporting mate. There were a few Palace and Saints fans on the train all having a beer or two and all guilty of this henious crime. I guess the logic would suggest we should have all been mobbing up, kicking off and coming to blows but surprisingly both sets of fans shared some alcohol and took part in some friendly chat and banter. Weird huh?
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Being Drunk at a Ground, how many of us were intoxicated at wembley at the Johnstones cup final. > I was well merry and had drinks in the bar at half time as well Im glad I dindt by a ticket for Stu of Romsies gig other wise I would have been sober Spade face or The Romsey Retard as he is affectionately known.
holepuncture Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Mate there is absolutely nothing more to this i can assure you. In fact the irony of it all is this is the first time i have not gone for a half time beer since the stadium opened. I have at least 7 witnesses to exactly what happened. Never ever been in this situation before. I wont lie i will be devastated if it goes badly. However i feel the punishment has already fitted the "crime". Some common sense required here .Fitzhugh Fella i think you have got it about right. It's probably a regular occurence, m-c says that these are his regular neighbours so the flask probably gets passed around on a regular basis, stewards might even be on the look out for it and m-c got caught in the 'pass the parcel'. No-one is going to admit to bringing the flask into the stadium because it's a criminal offence so if they saw him with it on the CCTV he's the fall guy this time. Nail on the head IMO. They have been larging it up for years on the liquor, hip flasks, pints, the lot. If you cant do the time..
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 OMG Silverspoons,what a sh ithole that place was. I was there.. what a horrendous place!
Bearsy Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Nail on the head IMO. They have been larging it up for years on the liquor, hip flasks, pints, the lot. If you cant do the time.. yeah this. The fortnightly mash-ups in the kingsland have been legend for years. I guess the po-po just got fed up with watching that lot larging it up every other week, it was probably getting out of hand with the crates of hip-flasks, jaeger bombs etc. Not really the family environment we're looking for.
holepuncture Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 yeah this. The fortnightly mash-ups in the kingsland have been legend for years. I guess the po-po just got fed up with watching that lot larging it up every other week, it was probably getting out of hand with the crates of hip-flasks, jaeger bombs etc. Not really the family environment we're looking for. I went for a couple of jars with Glasgow_Saint after the game to talk about his recent scouting trip to Cuba. Im afraid to say we didnt get to discuss all the Cuban football he has been taking in. Poor old Glasgow_Saint was sat behind Mirror and his gang, who all refer to themselves as the 'whisky saints' and he was quite taken back by their drunken loutish behaviour. Whilst the 'whisky saints' might think it is all a bit of harmless fun, it is certainly no victimless crime.
derry Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Interestingly in complete contrast to those stewards behaviour, at the West Ham game at half time a fan was drinking beer, obviously from the bar, chatting at the top of the steps. The steward just approached him and told him drinking not allowed there please take it back down to the concourse which he did.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 I went for a couple of jars with Glasgow_Saint after the game to talk about his recent scouting trip to Cuba. Im afraid to say we didnt get to discuss all the Cuban football he has been taking in. Poor old Glasgow_Saint was sat behind Mirror and his gang, who all refer to themselves as the 'whisky saints' and he was quite taken back by their drunken loutish behaviour. Whilst the 'whisky saints' might think it is all a bit of harmless fun, it is certainly no victimless crime. They were very loud and my hearing is not like it was
mirrorcarp Posted 1 October, 2013 Author Posted 1 October, 2013 Well for all of you that have followed the thread i thought i would come on and give you the outcome. Jury Verdict ......... NOT GUILTY I am free to go ,ticket returned so there is no need to protest on sunday with your "Free the hipflask 1" tee shirts. I will keep the details private but all i will say is that the people at the club that have dealt with the matter have been superb to me and been very fair. So if anyone would like to shake my hand i will be with the noisy,roudy, drunken mob having it large in the stadium on sunday. UP THE SAINTS
Bearsy Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 great news! We can now all get tanked up during match! Open season for hip flasks yo! Is there any limit on the number of hip flasks you can take in, or did they not say?
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 A victory for common sense and defeat for the jobsworth.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 OK poll needed, who thinks our intrepid flask swigger squealed on his neighbours when faced with the torture of a nice cuppa and a 2 match ban ?
ericb Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 great news! We can now all get tanked up during match! Open season for hip flasks yo! Is there any limit on the number of hip flasks you can take in, or did they not say? It's one hip flask, one crack pipe and two horse hair butt plugs (one worn during the game). Hope that helps
The Kraken Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 At hearing this joyous news I've just sent the missus out to buy me a new hip flask, here she is with it: I'll be bringing it to the game on Sunday. So if anyone fancies a wee dram, come find me. I'll be the p*ssed one.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 This is what you need http://www.amazon.co.uk/Southampton-Saints-Football-Club-Hip/dp/B003G1HTMM
mirrorcarp Posted 1 October, 2013 Author Posted 1 October, 2013 Only 18 more posts and this thread will have had more than the Crystal Palace Post Match Thread. My 1st ever thread as well.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Only 18 more posts and this thread will have had more than the Crystal Palace Post Match Thread. My 1st ever thread as well. so to reach that target you need to throw in a bit of late controversy, that always gets us yakking.. Try insulting Holepuncture or something,
Pedro Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 In future fill an evian water bottle up with vodka and tonic, the only problem is getting ice cubes in. Glad it's sorted.
Isla Wight Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Very pleased that you were dealt with in a proper manner and that things have turned out well.
mirrorcarp Posted 1 October, 2013 Author Posted 1 October, 2013 In future fill an evian water bottle up with vodka and tonic, the only problem is getting ice cubes in. Glad it's sorted. I did not know ice cubes were banned as well.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 I did not know ice cubes were banned as well. lethal weapons when projected with a knicker elastic catapult.
bristolsaint29 Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 It always makes me laugh when you can take a bottle in but not the top.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 It always makes me laugh when you can take a bottle in but not the top. and do they always pat you down to make sure that you are not concealing a suitable screw cap on your person ?
bristolsaint29 Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Sure I can throw a bottle full of liquid further than a bottle cap if I chose to.
Viking Warrior Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Good news mirrorCarp Kraken yes I was thinking of Silverspoons
John Boy Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Well for all of you that have followed the thread i thought i would come on and give you the outcome. Jury Verdict ......... NOT GUILTY I am free to go ,ticket returned so there is no need to protest on sunday with your "Free the hipflask 1" tee shirts. I will keep the details private but all i will say is that the people at the club that have dealt with the matter have been superb to me and been very fair. So if anyone would like to shake my hand i will be with the noisy,roudy, drunken mob having it large in the stadium on sunday. UP THE SAINTS OH POO!! I was so looking forward to seeing the Parading of Shamed Mirrorcarp shackled and dishevelled in the back of the town Gaol horse drawn cart through the streets of Southampton, being pelted with rotting Cabbages and the like by grubby street Urchins and toothless Hags on his way to a public flogging beneath the Bargate. Ah well maybe next week when someone else has committed naughtiness at SMS!
John Boy Saint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 lethal weapons when projected with a knicker elastic catapult. What you can't take knickers into the ground!! Blimey better take a closer look at the regulations. What about Conkers, seeing that its Autumn!
Cabrone Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Well for all of you that have followed the thread i thought i would come on and give you the outcome. Jury Verdict ......... NOT GUILTY I am free to go ,ticket returned so there is no need to protest on sunday with your "Free the hipflask 1" tee shirts. I will keep the details private but all i will say is that the people at the club that have dealt with the matter have been superb to me and been very fair. So if anyone would like to shake my hand i will be with the noisy,roudy, drunken mob having it large in the stadium on sunday. UP THE SAINTS Good stuff, commonsense prevails. Next time just make sure you hide your beer inside a squirrel, the stewards will never get it.
eelpie Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Great news for the hip flask mob. Bad for those for those around them, although they can at least request to be reseated. Worse news for those caught up in away games. Nothing worse than being sober among loudmouthed drunks at footie matches.
The9 Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Well for all of you that have followed the thread i thought i would come on and give you the outcome. Jury Verdict ......... NOT GUILTY I am free to go ,ticket returned so there is no need to protest on sunday with your "Free the hipflask 1" tee shirts. I will keep the details private but all i will say is that the people at the club that have dealt with the matter have been superb to me and been very fair. So if anyone would like to shake my hand i will be with the noisy,roudy, drunken mob having it large in the stadium on sunday. UP THE SAINTS Anyone want 30,000 "Free The Hipflask 1" t-shirts? Seriously though, good news and (eventually) a sensible reaction from the relevant authorities.
The9 Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 and do they always pat you down to make sure that you are not concealing a suitable screw cap on your person ? I'm pretty sure they don't, since we've been harbouring bottle caps on our person most Saturdays for the past two years just in case. Before that it was about distracting the server long enough to grab a bottle cap off the worktop behind the desk after they'd removed the one it came with. I know WHY they do it, it's pretty pointless nevertheless. Got coated in cola (it WAS cola) in the Northam after a random bottle projectile after the second goal on Saturday, wouldn't have got the front-middle of Block 41 soaked if lids were still allowed.
mirrorcarp Posted 1 October, 2013 Author Posted 1 October, 2013 Thanks for the solidarity guys, I'm welling up.
eurosaint Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Well for all of you that have followed the thread i thought i would come on and give you the outcome. Jury Verdict ......... NOT GUILTY I am free to go ,ticket returned so there is no need to protest on sunday with your "Free the hipflask 1" tee shirts. I will keep the details private but all i will say is that the people at the club that have dealt with the matter have been superb to me and been very fair. So if anyone would like to shake my hand i will be with the noisy,roudy, drunken mob having it large in the stadium on sunday. UP THE SAINTS Delighted for you mate and well done the club !
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 What you can't take knickers into the ground!! Blimey better take a closer look at the regulations. What about Conkers, seeing that its Autumn! Conkers are good but not ones soaked in vinegar or injected with plastic resins of any kind whatsover.
Trumush Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Serious enquiry mirrorcarp. I'm very pleased common sense has prevailed - does this mean hip flasks( containing alcahol ) are allowed in the ground or did the club say we will let you off this time but no more hip flasks ? Those cold winter nights will be here very soon.
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 October, 2013 Posted 1 October, 2013 Sure I can throw a bottle full of liquid further than a bottle cap if I chose to. Don't you believe it. As kids we used to throw tops off Vic bottles over the top of a hous and cath them when the wind blew them back.
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