niemi14 Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 As a goalkeeper myself and coach, in my opinion we have one of the best goalkeepers in the Premier League and feel it is no coincidence we have kept 4 clean sheets in 6 games. After a shaky start, he looks solid, commands his area and has a calming presence on the defence. I'd put him right up there with Niemi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasaint Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Always looks like he has a secret service type earpiece in... Great Keeper and definately made a huge difference along side Lovren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 He is quality in every aspect that a goalie needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Spot on. He just never looks fazed or nervous, confident to receive the ball a his feet even when under pressure. I think him and Lovren, who never stops talking to those around him have really steadied the ship which has meant that we can pick up 3 points when were not firing on all cylinders up top where as last season we would have to score 2 or 3 due to our defensive frailties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 and to think people, including Adkins, thought PG was a better option than him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 and to think people, including Adkins, thought PG was a better option than him.... When Boruc was 2 stone overweight and had zero match sharpness Adkins wasn't far wrong. Adkins gambled on KD being good enough for the PL as a reward for his service to the club, it unfortunately became clear rather quickly that he shouldn't be anywhere near the first-team in this league. We were left with a rookie that wasn't good enough and a completely out-of-form, overweight Boruc. Boruc was no better than KD or PG in bhis early days here but fortunately Adkins and co. managed to get him in shape and match sharp on the training ground, and we've never looked back since. That said we could do with a stronger back-up GK unless Cropper or PG make serious progress in the next few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 I know it's still Very early but what is the most prem clean sheets in a season? Who holds record for a prem keeper? Shilton holds top flight record with 18/19 KD holds lower league record with 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 When Boruc was 2 stone overweight and had zero match sharpness Adkins wasn't far wrong. Adkins gambled on KD being good enough for the PL as a reward for his service to the club, it unfortunately became clear rather quickly that he shouldn't be anywhere near the first-team in this league. We were left with a rookie that wasn't good enough and a completely out-of-form, overweight Boruc. Boruc was no better than KD or PG in bhis early days here but fortunately Adkins and co. managed to get him in shape and match sharp on the training ground, and we've never looked back since. That said we could do with a stronger back-up GK unless Cropper or PG make serious progress in the next few yearsprettyunfair on KD, he was behind a new defence and we were not solid. I agreed that we needed a change but when KD was called upon in the second half when Boruc was injured KD made a match winning save to keep us in front. I am very happy with Boruc but KD does not deserve disrespect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 I know it's still Very early but what is the most prem clean sheets in a season? Who holds record for a prem keeper? Shilton holds top flight record with 18/19 KD holds lower league record with 20 21, joint held by Cech and Van Der Sar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Quality, Quality, QUALITY signing. Boruc > Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 prettyunfair on KD, he was behind a new defence and we were not solid. I agreed that we needed a change but when KD was called upon in the second half when Boruc was injured KD made a match winning save to keep us in front. I am very happy with Boruc but KD does not deserve disrespect Well said. KD has been a great servant for the club and will always do his duty when called upon. Even now i`m happy to have him as number 2. People forget that he could have gone to the pre when the **** hit the fan and yet he stayed loyal. The man is a true saint and I would almost have him at the top of this page tbh... Disrespecting him is totally unfair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Loved his appreciation of the fans! Total legend. The man needs a song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Loved his appreciation of the fans! Total legend. The man needs a song! No Limit - Artur, Artur Artur, Artur Artur, Artur Artur Boruc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Boruc was always a quality keeper, and a big hard case to boot - wouldn't swap him for any other keeper in the prem. Lovren has galvanised the back four and made Fonte play like a Benfica product, two brilliant young lions on the flanks - happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Loved his appreciation of the fans! Total legend. The man needs a song! I think that took him by surprise, as he promptly lumped it into touch straight after! He certainly is a presence between the sticks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 I bet he was bored today - I'm sure I spotted him yawning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 I bet he was bored today - I'm sure I spotted him yawning Can't blame him. I know I was in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 I like that there was a song about him today. About time, though it was kinda awkward he kicked the ball straight out afterwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Loved his appreciation of the fans! Total legend. The man needs a song!Boruc aint Borucs he's the dogs Borucs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 As a fan you get such confidence looking at Boruc in goal - imagine what it's like for his team mates on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Not that ago , most of the helmets on here were saying how bad he was and would cost us points... with only a few sticking their necks out to say he's probably one of the best GK's we've had in recent history. Interesting how views change....or start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Totally agree with the rabbit and now we have the same opinions being reference Osvaldo and Wanyama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Not that ago , most of the helmets on here were saying how bad he was and would cost us points... with only a few sticking their necks out to say he's probably one of the best GK's we've had in recent history. Interesting how views change....or start. After his first couple of appearances there was not a single person who said he was probably one of our best GKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Not that ago , most of the helmets on here were saying how bad he was and would cost us points... with only a few sticking their necks out to say he's probably one of the best GK's we've had in recent history. Interesting how views change....or start. Can't remember there being too much moaning about Boruc at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Can't remember there being too much moaning about Boruc at all. there was also, after the throwing the bottle at the boards, a fair few never wanted the disgrace to play for saints again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jampot Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 It was clear he wasn't fit when Adkins put him in, fans seemed to think that was a good as he was going to get. Not the case as we can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 After his first couple of appearances there was not a single person who said he was probably one of our best GKs. I agree he did not have a good start...and yes it was probably a couple of games..but most of the negative comments 'likely' appeared from people who don't know football outside of the city and hadn't heard of him. Quite frankly, I couldn't believe he signed for us ...bloody international regular, champions league GK who was first choice for Fiorentina and Celtic before that entering his peak years at 31 years old, 6'4 commanding presence.. ....but most seemed to be written off after 180 minutes of first team football after missing an entire pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Boruc was no better than KD or PG in bhis early days here but fortunately Adkins and co. managed to get him in shape and match sharp on the training ground, and we've never looked back since. That said we could do with a stronger back-up GK unless Cropper or PG make serious progress in the next few years I've noted that a many Prem. sides have at least two international goalies on their staff. Like many on here, I am very impressed with Boruc's progress, although KD might be OK for a one.off sub. He's no candidate in the longer term, (though his contract is well-earned for his previous service.) It might be that " a bit of competition " could keep Boruc on his toes, but holding his current form .....I don't to see that as a problem at the moment. However, we do need experienced back-up, (in case of serious injury)... and I can't think of one in the UK...or ? Gazzaniga was Adkins' gamble, and it didn't come off and neither he or KD are good enough in the long term. Cody Cropper is slowly making his way into the USA sqaud, but is still a long way off serious consideration, and couple of heavy defeats this season, when standing for the U21's doesn't inspire confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 I've noted that a many Prem. sides have at least two international goalies on their staff. which teams do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 After his first couple of appearances there was not a single person who said he was probably one of our best GKs. I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 which teams do? well I should think that; Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, Aston Villa, West.Brom and Stoke certainly do.....and there may be more, but if you don't believe it, sorry I don't have the time to convince you. (one might argue that De Gea is not a full Spanish international but he does have 27 U21 caps, but as Man.U's first choice keeper he surely has some international level experience (?) but Lindegaard has certainly played in goal for Denmark.) The main point is that any team with pretentions to Euro football cannot rely on the form and fitness of only one keeper, no matter how good, and I'm sure it must be in MP's mind if he's considering that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 well I should think that; Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, Aston Villa, West.Brom and Stoke certainly do.....and there may be more, but if you don't believe it, sorry I don't have the time to convince you. (one might argue that De Gea is not a full Spanish international but he does have 27 U21 caps, but as Man.U's first choice keeper he surely has some international level experience (?) but Lindegaard has certainly played in goal for Denmark.) The main point is that any team with pretentions to Euro football cannot rely on the form and fitness of only one keeper, no matter how good, and I'm sure it must be in MP's mind if he's considering that. spurs dont arsenal dont WBA? villa? erm, most teams dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlavik Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 I will explain my view on things. Everton Gazza http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/09/29/video-everton-3-1-southampton-premier-league-highlights/ 1st goal, fine he can't do anything. 2nd goal, what is he doing? He should go out and challange the player. Very bad positioning. 3rd goal, he shouldnt have moved so much to the left. Hard to say that he would have saved the 2nd attempt even if he would have stayed though. And I'm not saying that Boruc would have either. Fulham Gazza http://theoriginalwinger.com/2012-10-07-video-southampton-vs-fulham-highlights-goals-premier-league 1st goal, Hooiveld. Gazza can't do anything there. 2nd goal, can't do anything about it. West Ham Boruc 1st goal, hard to say really. Ball should never be allowed to bounce in that area and Boruc was ready for a touch from someone. 2nd goal, defence should get there first. Had control over his goals position and would have saved it if it would have been on target. 3rd goal, penalty is never the goaltenders fault. 4th goal, what can he do? Tottenham Boruc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eToC-xY9_CY First highlight, Boruc makes a nice save. 1st goal, Clyne makes an error and it is a nice header. What can he do? 2nd goal, Challenges the player and get beaten. Made the right choice. If Clyne would have ran all the way back it might have been a whole other story. WBA Gazza http://www.jazayer.com/west-brom-2-0-southampton-all-highlights-and-goals/ 1st goal, he can't do anything about that one. 2nd goal, he can't do anything about it. Swansea Gazza http://www.eplmatches.com/2012/11/10/southampton-vs-swansea-highlights/ Only goal, completely Gazzas fault. QPR Gazza http://www.fullhighlights.com/2012/11/qpr-1-3-southampton-highlights.html Only goal, should have done better with it. Looked nervous the whole game. I can't say that Boruc has been great. What I will say is that he hasn't been bad in any of the games he's played. Gazza has been bad against Everton, Swansea and QPR. I'd say that we give Boruc a shot. Boruc is more composed and can command the defence, he did so against Tottenham when he ordered them to go up so he could shoot the ball forward when we were pushing for an equalizer. Boruc is an international goaltender and to choose a goaltender that really hasn't had a great game over him is absurd. Especially when Boruc hasn't been bad in any game. Ofc Gazza should be in the goal if he is the best goaltender, I however feel that he is not. This is my view on the case, sorry for the long post. This is what I said when people said that Gazza was better. I have defended him from the start. Too many people talk trash when they know nothing about football. Btw, Gazza is useless and will never become a premier goaltender - and yes you can quote me on that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Top Class Keeper, I couldn't believe it when we signed him as he had played in the champions league and was a regular international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 (edited) spurs dont arsenal dont WBA? villa? erm, most teams dont Do Tottenham still have Freidal (USA) and Lluvis (FRA).?...not totally sure about Gomes?.. (think he was capped by Brazil). Arsenal until recently... still had (POLISH) Szeczeny and Fabianski (both understudies to Boruc), and Viviano who has been capped by ITALY. West Brom. have Ben Foster (ENG) and Boaz Myhill (WALES) Aston Villa have Guzan (USA) and Given (Rep. Ireland) but do come back if you have some alternative stats. although I omitted mentioning; Man.City, Liverpool, Fulham and Hull who all have at least 2 goalkeepers who have been capped at international level. However, the basic issue is : Only one top class goalie is not enough for a Prem.side. Edited 29 September, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Btw, Gazza is useless and will never become a premier goaltender - and yes you can quote me on that later. Goaltender? F*ck sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Goaltender? F*ck sake. Why so precious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grezz Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Sweet. Boston Goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 29 September, 2013 Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Why so precious? The correct term is - 'Guardian of Ye Olde Onion Bagge' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9-3 Posted 30 September, 2013 Share Posted 30 September, 2013 Top man after the watergates (bottles) incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Rick Posted 30 September, 2013 Share Posted 30 September, 2013 Player of the season for far for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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