Long Shot Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 If Pearson had been kept on and he had blended the kids with a few wise heads then I think we could have confidently expected not to get relegated. However I think we saw last night a good young side trying to play decent football that will get relegated unless it toughens up. I also think if Lowe had stayed away the crowds would have been more inclined to turn up, thus alleviating the financial situation. So to answer your question NickG - depends if it was pre Pearson's departure or post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Mid table finish and win some home games too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Last night was ugly but why are people basing their entire judgement of the season to date on one game?? Have we a fraternity of goldfish? Last night was woeful. Reading was not, Charlton second half was not, Wednesday first half was not. Last night was awful, awful, awful - anyone who says we play like that all the time has not watched us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Close to administration by this Christmas...rescued by selling and loaning out players in January who we didn't have time to offload/hadn't proved their value in August...close to administration in May...rescued by selling more players and Lowe's desk tidy...realise we have no players left at the club over the age of 12 and go into administration...one day soon, supporters will realise that results on the pitch no longer matter...no really, they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Last night was ugly but why are people basing their entire judgement of the season to date on one game?? Have we a fraternity of goldfish? Last night was woeful. Reading was not, Charlton second half was not, Wednesday first half was not. Last night was awful, awful, awful - anyone who says we play like that all the time has not watched us this season.i agree, weare so bad that it was our first defrat in 5 games:smt102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 What I expected: IF we had this set-up with JP and the youngsters for the whole of the season I expected relegation. So far that means that we are doing slightly better than expected. What I hoped for: A real manager, a real team, and a board with money. That, I'm afraid will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Last night was ugly but why are people basing their entire judgement of the season to date on one game?? Have we a fraternity of goldfish? Last night was woeful. Reading was not, Charlton second half was not, Wednesday first half was not. Last night was awful, awful, awful - anyone who says we play like that all the time has not watched us this season. People are NOT basing their judgement on last night! Its the poor home performances that have lost the club money and support. Reasonably one could EXPECT that a team wins at least half its home matches. Pretty football is killing this club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Close to administration by this Christmas...rescued by selling and loaning out players in January who we didn't have time to offload/hadn't proved their value in August...close to administration in May...rescued by selling more players and Lowe's desk tidy...realise we have no players left at the club over the age of 12 and go into administration...one day soon, supporters will realise that results on the pitch no longer matter...no really, they will. I am sorry I am begining to join the band of those that want Admin and a fresh start with a blank canvas and no Lowe or Wilde. I appreciate its a mute point and one that many do not want to consider...but...if its the only way forward then bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 I expected to struggle first part of the season but had hopes that things would improve after Christmas as the team style & ethic started to bed in.I took encouragement from the fans reports from the games & I'd hoped we'd keep our heads above water until the turn of the year which we have. So as far as that goes probably about where I'd expected. The problem is after every Preston/Reading win when it looks like we turn the corner. We put in poor results such as home to Plymouth & Sheff wed followed by an appalling performance at Palace. I know I've only seen the games live on Telly but so far have seen little to think we will see any type of sustained upturn in the new year. Especially if as feared we are to loose the better players we have now Surman & Llanna for example. The thing that worries me most is even if we survive this year what will we have left to start next season with. HOPE & PRAYER seems all we have left now. I do hope I'm being overly pessimistic but I fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Lowe will ruin the club and the rest of the shareholders are doing nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 tbh i thought we would have been this seasons surprise package as we were an unknown quantity perhaps scraping the play offs,it hasnt worked out that way but i am still confident of a mid table finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 I am sorry I am begining to join the band of those that want Admin and a fresh start with a blank canvas and no Lowe or Wilde. I appreciate its a mute point and one that many do not want to consider...but...if its the only way forward then bring it on Well it certainly won't be the only way forward if it means relegation. In fact it could a complete disaster, whereas the current set-up has potential (depending on who we can hold on to) when you think of the quality of our young players and that they are still learning and gaining experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Expected not to get relegated - no more, no less - we'll see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Anything can happen in the championship. We'll have a great run after christmas and get promoted through the play-offs. Look at Hull, they were 14th this time last season with 27 points - 5 more than we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Anything can happen in the championship. We'll have a great run after christmas and get promoted through the play-offs. Look at Hull, they were 14th this time last season with 27 points - 5 more than we have now. You optimist you...! Personally after last nights performance I can't see us getting the 5 points that we are currently adrift over the course of the season...! We are woeful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Lowe will ruin the club and the rest of the shareholders are doing nothing about it. It might be wiser to accept that Lowe & Co will take us into the abyss. Its kind of the if you accept in a war you have no chance of survival then you can stop worrying about getting shot. If you examine the Lowe strategy you realise come May we wont have anybody to sell and we will therfore go into administration. Even if Lowe and Wilde put some money in it will only put off the evil day. I want us to at least hit rock bottom and then know we can look forward to being in a league where we can asctually compete with some prospect of moving forward. Its been a long long painful decline and it seems its not over yet. Rupert Lowe is definitely got a lot to answer for. Such bad luck for Saints to get lumbered with him the Robert Mugabe of the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 When I left the ground following the Sheff Utd game last season, I had genuine belief and hope that we'd turned the corner. I didn't think for one minute we'd be involved in a relegation struggle the next season. That is the point in time this season should be judged against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Well it certainly won't be the only way forward if it means relegation. In fact it could a complete disaster, whereas the current set-up has potential (depending on who we can hold on to) when you think of the quality of our young players and that they are still learning and gaining experience. Pakace last night had a fairly young side out which included a 17 year old. They had fight and passion too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Well it certainly won't be the only way forward if it means relegation. In fact it could a complete disaster, whereas the current set-up has potential (depending on who we can hold on to) when you think of the quality of our young players and that they are still learning and gaining experience. Very true, but the point was made by one of the commentators on Sky last night that the 'experience' could actually be detrimental. Too many hammerings is going to do absolutely naff all for the kids belief and self confidence, therefore some experiences are best not experienced if you get my drift..!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Its amazing, so many people claim to they would be satisfied with survival, but these same people go into 90% of league games thinking a win is likely. Have a look at the pre game prediction threads. Alot have us down to win 1-0 or 2-1 week in week out. Why is it your realistic seasons aspirations arent the same game by game? The wrist cutting that goes on after games like last night is quite hilarious. Relegation candidates dont score many goals, and dont pick up alot of points. Its that simple. If we could pick up results with the regularity that some expect/predict, then we would be at the right end of this sh*tty league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 I said before the season started we'd finish in the bottom 6 and I see no reason to change my mind . This should not be taken to infer that : A - I'm at all satisfied with this situation . B - I hold some great football insight , it was always perfectly obvious we'd struggle for any fan with half a brain in their head . Will we survive this season ? - who knows but it's going to be tight and those on here taking great comfort from the fact we're not quite in the relegation zone need to take a reality check , that means the square root of f*uck all in December . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 (edited) I thought we we're relegation certs. Portaloo has given us a team that can compete at this level from castoffs and youth team players. I think he's done a very good job under the circumstances. It hacks me off the way that after one bad results the headless chickens on here go berserk. So we lost a game - get over it. Yep, pretty much how I feel about it. I thought we'd just about compete, in an unentertaining way, and probably get relegated. At the moment, I feel we'll just about beat the relegation trap, and may even scrape mid-table. And some of Saints football has been highly entertaining and skilled, at times. If Saints survive this season, I think they'll do better next - providing they keep the players they have, and perhaps add a couple of genuine players in key areas. Edited 9 December, 2008 by St Landrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 We've got a point a game so far, which is enough to keep us out the bottom 3 at the moment. I reckon a point a game from now on, is the best we can hope for. Let's just hope that is still enough to keep us out of the bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 We've got a point a game so far, which is enough to keep us out the bottom 3 at the moment. I reckon a point a game from now on, is the best we can hope for. Let's just hope that is still enough to keep us out of the bottom 3. From about this time last year until the end of the season we managed about a point a game, and only stayed up because last seasons start was pretty good with 30 pts from 21 games and sitting 10th. I think a point a game from here on in will not be enough. (so arguably the latter part of last season was as good/bad as the first half this season!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 What did i expect from this season? When i bought my ST(early bird),i expected NP to be our manager with a mixed team of young and experienced players,able to get to midtable.I also expected the amount of fans going to home games to increase a little,due to the hope and unity that was felt on our last match at the end of last season. What i got was a failed Chairman back to his old tricks,NP replaced by someone ive never heard of and the reserve team now our first team. To say i am a tad disappointed,is an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Before the season started I thought we would struggle, though certain performances in pre-season appeared to give grounds for at least some optimism. The first game I saw was Birmingham at home in the Carling Cup; after that, I felt genuinely optimistic myself. I then went to our next game, Blackpool at home, and came away thinking that inconsistency was likely to be the main feature of our season. That's the way things have turned out; a great performance and result is followed by either a nothing performance or a shocker. We have yet to put together a decent run of results, and this worries me enormously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 When I bought my season tickets (before Lowe) I expected Pearson to be in charge and a team with passion, skill and commitment to carry on from the end of last season. At the start of this one I thought that our most probable finishing position would be 4th from bottom, give or take a couple of places, provided that we kept at least 2 of our proven goalscorers. I've been pleasantly surprised by a couple of the away wins but this ineffective, ponderous style of football will get us absolutely nowhere. Let's be clear about this: these are not our youngsters that we are blooding, these are cheap loans from other clubs that don't want them. There's no consistency and next season is going to be a lot worse than this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Bottom half of the table. I did think our home form would be better though and unless that improves we will go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Bottom half of the table. I did think our home form would be better though and unless that improves we will go down. Wow. If Soggy is saying it, we really are in the brown smelly stuff. And not a reference to Lawrie Mac in sight. I do believe he has experienced an epiphany.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Bottom half of the table. I did think our home form would be better though and unless that improves we will go down. Think positive. It is this type of negative comment that will take us down:smt069 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Its amazing, so many people claim to they would be satisfied with survival, but these same people go into 90% of league games thinking a win is likely. Have a look at the pre game prediction threads. Alot have us down to win 1-0 or 2-1 week in week out. Why is it your realistic seasons aspirations arent the same game by game? The wrist cutting that goes on after games like last night is quite hilarious. Relegation candidates dont score many goals, and dont pick up alot of points. Its that simple. If we could pick up results with the regularity that some expect/predict, then we would be at the right end of this sh*tty league. agree with that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Pakace last night had a fairly young side out which included a 17 year old. They had fight and passion too They could also afford the right experienced pro's to go along with those youngsters. We even had that option at one time before it all got ****ed up against the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 This is what I was expecting....as it was promised by Jan http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y6bKk8Gr6fI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 I was expecting a struggle, with the possibility of both a pleasant surprise, or relegation if things went down the pooper. If we survive, I'll be happy enough to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Last night was ugly but why are people basing their entire judgement of the season to date on one game?? Have we a fraternity of goldfish? Last night was woeful. Reading was not, Charlton second half was not, Wednesday first half was not. Last night was awful, awful, awful - anyone who says we play like that all the time has not watched us this season. Neither was Derby or the first half of the Birmingham league game. People are too reactionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 As we went into first game, with the squad and manager as they are, what did you genuinely think we would achieve this season?? To go down once Lowe came back. And we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Neither was Derby or the first half of the Birmingham league game. People are too reactionary. After 22 games you start to get a feel for where you should be, and we are involved in a relegation battle having only earned a point a game so far. The full season is the time when teams are judged, so we still have some way to go, but I wouldn't call it reactionary to review our position and base your view on how we have performed at the halfway point of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 We are doing slightly better than I expected, I thought we wouldn't have a chance of staying up but our youngsters have proved we do. However we are still in it up to our necks, if we keep playing in the same open style we will not have a chance when the real relegation scrap begins. At the moment it is relatively pressure free football. If we try to ping it about like Arsenal in a relegation 6 pointer it will be disasterous IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 What did i expect from this season? When i bought my ST(early bird),i expected NP to be our manager with a mixed team of young and experienced players,able to get to midtable.I also expected the amount of fans going to home games to increase a little,due to the hope and unity that was felt on our last match at the end of last season. What i got was a failed Chairman back to his old tricks,NP replaced by someone ive never heard of and the reserve team now our first team. To say i am a tad disappointed,is an understatement. Exactly the same as me who was sitting just a few yards away from you. But I held off buying my early bird ST to the last minute and thankfully by then it became clear that Lowe and Wilde would return, so I hesitated still further. Naturally, there was no way that I would renew my ST once they were back and give the bastards the satisfaction of knowing that they had my money up front. Although I have so far attended all home matches, dismal as they have mostly been, I at least have the satisfaction of knowing that when I can't take any more punishment, I can just stop going and won't spend anything further. The minute Lowe goes, I will buy a proportional ST and attend regardless of us winning or losing, along with hopefully many others who don't even attend as I currently do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 At the start of season I would have settled for avoiding relegation and would defo settle for it now at the start I questioned wether the kids and a total Football ethos would work in this league then the kids kind of won me over with a couple of great performances but with the best of the kids going to be sold and the decent loans probablly going we will do well to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 After 22 games you start to get a feel for where you should be, and we are involved in a relegation battle having only earned a point a game so far. The full season is the time when teams are judged, so we still have some way to go, but I wouldn't call it reactionary to review our position and base your view on how we have performed at the halfway point of the season. But the reaction is based on the Palace game - people bleating on about us needing to toughen up, tippy-tappy football, etc. It's complete tosh. We need a cutting edge - we have done for weeks. We have not been bullied, outfought, undone by our age or style, etc. On Saturday we should have won - we didn't score a second or third because we have no cutting edge. But this has been turned into a sleight on the players, their style, strength and motivaiton in the usual post-defeat self-flagellalation. Palace was awful - the four games leading up to it weren't - three were a shot shy of being good, one was exceptional. This forum should be renamed koiweb... No-one is saying this season will be easy. No-one thinks Palace was a good performance or result. No-one thinks that's as good as we get unless they are a bloody idiot or a pessimist who needs to be placed on suicide watch and quick. Here we are after everyone's played - still four points off relegation because we are in the mix with some bad sides. All we need to be this year is better than three of them. Right now we are. In 26 more games if we are - that's enough. Not great, but enough. And enough to build on the young squad where we can for next season and the future - not for Thursday afternoon at 3:48 - which seems to be as far as most patience stretches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 LGTC it is not complete tosh...getting a point a game is not a reaction from the palace game..spookily enough. it is a reaction to the league table and form we have shown.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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