trousers Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12088/8942866/managers-must-bite-bullet-and-give-youth-a-chance-says-jeff-stelling The prime example of this, by the way, is Southampton who really are a beacon as far as the British game is concerned.Yes, they've signed some big-name foreign players, but in this week's Capital One Cup game against Bristol City every single outfield substitute was British - and that was even with giving Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw and Nathaniel Clyne the night off! It's a club with a huge British backbone - and I'm sure Roy Hodgson wished that every club was like them! I've a lot of respect for Southampton and their fans, who were understandably upset when Nigel Adkins went last season but didn't protest at the next home league game, against Everton, because they wanted to give Mauricio Pochettino a chance. Pochettino carried himself with a lot of dignity at that time and it has worked out well for Saints, while things aren't so bad for Adkins now, either! Southampton do things slightly differently but they are making huge strides; we saw as much at Liverpool last week, when a lot was made of the fact that they press so high up. I don't think that they've been at their best so far this season, despite the fact that they are up there, until last week when they were absolutely terrific. They've got a decent sized squad now and my only concern for them is that as good an addition is Pablo Osvaldo appears, his arrival has changed Lambert's role slightly and maybe he's not quite so comfortable with it. But we'll see how that pans out - for now they are doing great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Makes a change from a soccer Saturday rant about us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Cheers Jeff! I like you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Makes a change from a soccer Saturday rant about us Not an awful lot to rant about at the moment, which can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 (edited) Is this the same Jeff Stelling who joined MLT in ridiculing Nicola Cortese over the Adkins sacking just 9 months ago? well, well..what a change of heart - now that our club has suddenly created bit of patriotic pride with the media..... I haven't heard any signs of regret from him for that outburst.....I hope that the club bans him from entry to SMS, at least until he goes public with an apology... Edited 26 September, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Is this the same Jeff Stelling who joined MLT in ridiculing Nicola Cortese over the Adkins sacking just 9 months ago? well, well..what a change of heart - now that our club has suddenly created bit of patriotic pride with the media..... I haven't heard any signs of regret from him for that ourburst.....I hope that the club bans him from entry to SMS, at least until he goes public with an apology... If I remember correctly he had a go about the manner of the sacking which he had a point about. You just sound a bit pathetic tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 If I remember correctly he had a go about the manner of the sacking which he had a point about. You just sound a bit pathetic tbh. Yes and to be fair a hell of a lot of us on here did the same. Nice little article that, well done Jeff :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Yes and to be fair a hell of a lot of us on here did the same. Nice little article that, well done Jeff :-) Just goes to show that a hell of a lot of peeps can be wrong when left to speculate with very little info....The funniest thing about the Adkins saga was after a while, when peeps started to realize that it was for the best for the Club. The hate and bile changed from 'Adkins being sacked' to a face saving...."The way he was sacked" Observing a herd mentality can be really entertaining at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Just goes to show that a hell of a lot of peeps can be wrong when left to speculate with very little info....The funniest thing about the Adkins saga was after a while, when peeps started to realize that it was for the best for the Club. The hate and bile changed from 'Adkins being sacked' to a face saving...."The way he was sacked" Observing a herd mentality can be really entertaining at times Not at all. The majority were annoyed about the sacking but very angry about the manner of it. It was posted many times but rewrite history if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Just goes to show that a hell of a lot of peeps can be wrong when left to speculate with very little info....The funniest thing about the Adkins saga was after a while, when peeps started to realize that it was for the best for the Club. The hate and bile changed from 'Adkins being sacked' to a face saving...."The way he was sacked" Observing a herd mentality can be really entertaining at times Not sure id agree to be honest. I think pretty much all Saints fans would agree that it's a bit of a disgrace the way he was sacked, but majority all said they'd give MP a chance. I just think people would expecting us to progress a bit further since he took over (not that he's done a bad job!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Is this the same Jeff Stelling who joined MLT in ridiculing Nicola Cortese over the Adkins sacking just 9 months ago? well, well..what a change of heart - now that our club has suddenly created bit of patriotic pride with the media..... I haven't heard any signs of regret from him for that outburst.....I hope that the club bans him from entry to SMS, at least until he goes public with an apology... What exactly did Stelling say about the Adkins sacking? Can't remember it being anything that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Not sure id agree to be honest. I think pretty much all Saints fans would agree that it's a bit of a disgrace the way he was sacked, but majority all said they'd give MP a chance. I just think people would expecting us to progress a bit further since he took over (not that he's done a bad job!) Exactly. As jeff himself said, the Saints fans didn't protest at the game after Adkins was sacked as they wanted to give Pochettino a chance. St. George has had a bit of a misguided swipe at how it all panned out. The decision itself was always much less questioned than the timing and manner in which it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 What exactly did Stelling say about the Adkins sacking? Can't remember it being anything that bad? Think he is getting Confused with the MLT rant. Bless him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Is this the same Jeff Stelling who joined MLT in ridiculing Nicola Cortese over the Adkins sacking just 9 months ago? well, well..what a change of heart - now that our club has suddenly created bit of patriotic pride with the media..... I haven't heard any signs of regret from him for that outburst.....I hope that the club bans him from entry to SMS, at least until he goes public with an apology... Yeah that was a shockingly ignorant outburst. Anyway peace seems to have broken out especially with MLTs comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Yeah that was a shockingly ignorant outburst. Anyway peace seems to have broken out especially with MLTs comments. Where is this outburst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Where is this outburst? Maybe this one? [video=youtube_share;21AJ1c7QOcI] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Exactly. As jeff himself said, the Saints fans didn't protest at the game after Adkins was sacked as they wanted to give Pochettino a chance. St. George has had a bit of a misguided swipe at how it all panned out. The decision itself was always much less questioned than the timing and manner in which it happened. Exactly. Regardless of us moving up a level in terms of playing style and playing staff, how Adkins was treated still sticks in my craw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 He's a good man - doesn't he live in the Forest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Lets not take everything which is said on Soccer Saturday to seriously shall we? Its all for show on that program and good fun to watch, irrespective of your views on what they say. On a serious note, this write up seems an honest thought out opinion, which gives us something else to be proud of at the moment (shame our support cant be a little bit louder with some new songs for players who deserve it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Stelling lives in Winchester I think. His boy(s) support Saints too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 He's a good man - doesn't he live in the Forest? Stelling lives in Winchester I think. His boy(s) support Saints too. Incorrect - try again. It's free and there might be a prize for the lucky winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Maybe this one? [video=youtube_share;21AJ1c7QOcI] So nothing to do with Adkins. Probably him just being honest and giving his valid opinion a matter, same as this article, funny how they're taken in such different ways on here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Incorrect - try again. It's free and there might be a prize for the lucky winner. Hampshire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Incorrect - try again. It's free and there might be a prize for the lucky winner. Bishops Waltham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Incorrect - try again. It's free and there might be a prize for the lucky winner. He's got a lot of houses according to the searches, Bishops Waltham, Winchester, Alresford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Hampshire? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 Bishops Waltham Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 September, 2013 Share Posted 26 September, 2013 He's got a lot of houses according to the searches, Bishops Waltham, Winchester, Alresford... Oh FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 So nothing to do with Adkins. Probably him just being honest and giving his valid opinion a matter, same as this article, funny how they're taken in such different ways on here though. If a journalist (particularly one that works in the Murdoch empire) has an opinion they ain't gonna tell you what it is, they're paid to increase the ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 Maybe this one? [video=youtube_share;21AJ1c7QOcI] and I would still stand by Stellings comments on this. NC's opinion on MLT is disgraceful. However good it is for us now, your cant forget past legends. I also agree with him about the way Adkins left. But this article praising us is about our team and selection policy. Different subject altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 If a journalist (particularly one that works in the Murdoch empire) has an opinion they ain't gonna tell you what it is, they're paid to increase the ratings. Ah right, didn't know that. Roughly how much do you think Sky's ratings will go up after this article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 Oh god, have you see the saints fan comment on this article on sky... snubbing stellins praise and telling everyone about how we are destined for top 3.... I find it frankly embarrassing. We should be gateful for whatever praise we get, and modest about our successes. Most importantly we need to stop dismissing other clubs who people deem to be "smaller" than us. as people were doing to bristol city pre match.... how quickly they forget that as recently as 3 years ago The Robins were above us in league standing and quality and we were the league 1 or stuggling championship team.... we knocked out a fair few bigger scalps and as we frequently show, if we don't turn up we can easily lose games. We're not so good hat we can go banging the war drum and acting like we are Barcelona... reality check needed for some fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 Oh god, have you see the saints fan comment on this article on sky... snubbing stellins praise and telling everyone about how we are destined for top 3.... I find it frankly embarrassing. We should be gateful for whatever praise we get, and modest about our successes. Most importantly we need to stop dismissing other clubs who people deem to be "smaller" than us. as people were doing to bristol city pre match.... how quickly they forget that as recently as 3 years ago The Robins were above us in league standing and quality and we were the league 1 or stuggling championship team.... we knocked out a fair few bigger scalps and as we frequently show, if we don't turn up we can easily lose games. We're not so good hat we can go banging the war drum and acting like we are Barcelona... reality check needed for some fans! Agree about the 3rd place stuff but I think fans have the right to expect a win at home against a 56 places below us. Doesn't mean that fans are acting like we are Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 Nice to see Stelling praising Southampton for the way that we champion young British talent, but a bit of a shame that he can't quite bring himself to credit Cortese for that instead of Pochettino. I can understand that the reason is that he can't praise Cortese because it would seem a slight towards his mate Matt, but any praise in our direction from him is to be welcomed. I don't think that there were many Saints fans who were not a bit miffed at the way that the Adkins episode was handled and in my opinion, the results at the end of last season and the beginning of this mean that any fans who hold the position that the jury is still out on Pochettino have a reasonable viewpoint at the moment. It would be nice to have media attention which was more even-handed about the events of the past few recent years, but it is understandable that personal loyalties and their attendant agendas will naturally mean that impartial objectivity is difficult to achieve. If Cortese is the bad guy for his stance that Club legends are expected to pay for their tickets and the way that Adkins was dismissed, then equally he should receive praise for the success that I hope we achieve under Pochettino, the way that we bring on our youngsters through the academy and our aim of playing a style of football which we aspire to be called "the Southampton way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 I was thinking of going to the Mayflower to see the MLT talk, but the thought of anti NC rants do make me think twice. A fantastic footballer who gave me much joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 27 September, 2013 Share Posted 27 September, 2013 Not at all. The majority were annoyed about the sacking but very angry about the manner of it. It was posted many times but rewrite history if you wish. St Goerge is the more accurate here. Also 'most' people were shocked but not necessarily totally against the idea........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 I wasn't happy as I liked Nigel. That said I could also understand why MP was/is an upgrade. NA wouldn't have 'attracted' any of the players we signed this season. Sent from my RM-821_eu_euro1_276 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 I wasn't happy as I liked Nigel. That said I could also understand why MP was/is an upgrade. NA wouldn't have 'attracted' any of the players we signed this season. Sent from my RM-821_eu_euro1_276 using Board Express Why wouldn't Adkins have attracted the players that we have under Pochettino? What particularly would have attracted the Kenyan at Celtic or the Croat at Lyons to the Argentian who was previously managing in Spain? Ramirez came under Adkins. Excuse my naivety but I had thought that money was the primary consideration that attracted players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 September, 2013 Share Posted 28 September, 2013 Why wouldn't Adkins have attracted the players that we have under Pochettino? What particularly would have attracted the Kenyan at Celtic or the Croat at Lyons to the Argentian who was previously managing in Spain? Ramirez came under Adkins. Excuse my naivety but I had thought that money was the primary consideration that attracted players. Which is an absolute contradiction of what you'd said before about players coming here because it's near the sea and the new forest, decent schools and a nice place to live. You also said that our own talented youngsters will ignore Man United and Chelsea and the £100k a week salaries to stay at saints and play with their mates. Consistent as ever Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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