Saint Garrett Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Come on then, how did he get on? I know he splits opinions massively on here, but interesting to hear how he got on. Dave Merrington seemed impressed on Solent and the goal sounded a cracker. Also interesting tweet from our pal Alex Crook... @alex_crook: #saintsfc assistant boss Jesus Perez has told us Gaston Ramirez is having extra training sessions to improve match sharpness Would be great to see him in behind Osvaldo and Rickie on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Didn't he go off injured at the end? Interesting re the extra training sessions. The club are obviously keen to get him starting soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Yes did ok. Good goal and two or three other decent attempts in first half. Early on played a couple balls to left hand corner. Clearly someone should have been moving into that space but weren't doing their job. As a result Gaston got a bit of stick - unjustly in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Scored a good goal, had a few decent efforts, but his effort is still poor. He usually walks or jogs around midfield and dithers on the ball too much before deciding what to do with it. He still doesn't look like a £12m player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston Ramirez is class and was head and shoulders above the rest..... So glad he is in our team... Top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 He was frustrating as fck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston Ramirez is class and was head and shoulders above the rest..... So glad he is in our team... Top player. Indeed. He was on a different wavelength, everything we created came through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston Ramirez is class and was head and shoulders above the rest..... So glad he is in our team... Top player. Were you actually at the game? Honest question. IMO he had two sublime moments. One, the goal, absolutely thumped it home, a great finish. Another one in the first half where he lofted the ball over the defence for Lee, who really should have scored. Other than that, Gaston was massively frustrating. Poor control far too often, very poor passes far too often, not able to hold on to the ball, and far far too wasteful for a team that prides itself on keeping posession. Steven Davis was much more effective as a midfielder looking to pull the strings that Ramirez was. One thing I won't criticise though was his level of effort. i thought he kept going, and kept trying right up to the point where he walked off injured with seconds to go. It just really didn't work out for him. Extremely sloppy is the best way that I would describe his performance, punctuated by a couple of instances of absolute brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Ducked out of every tackle, lost the ball easily in dangerous positions,did some good things,scored a great goal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston scored a quality goal and lifted one sublime pass over the defence in the first half. Apart from that he was generally pants all night Thought their left footer Emannuel-Thomas looked more of a threat at times Shame really because Gaston looked the real deal on a couple of occasions last season, particularly first half at home to Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston scored a quality goal and lifted one sublime pass over the defence in the first half. Apart from that he was generally pants all night Thought their left footer Emannuel-Thomas looked more of a threat at times Shame really because Gaston looked the real deal on a couple of occasions last season, particularly first half at home to Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Were you actually at the game? Honest question. IMO he had two sublime moments. One, the goal, absolutely thumped it home, a great finish. Another one in the first half where he lofted the ball over the defence for Lee, who really should have scored. Other than that, Gaston was massively frustrating. Poor control far too often, very poor passes far too often, not able to hold on to the ball, and far far too wasteful for a team that prides itself on keeping posession. Steven Davis was much more effective as a midfielder looking to pull the strings that Ramirez was. One thing I won't criticise though was his level of effort. i thought he kept going, and kept trying right up to the point where he walked off injured with seconds to go. It just really didn't work out for him. Extremely sloppy is the best way that I would describe his performance, punctuated by a couple of instances of absolute brilliance. Similar to a lot Le Tiss' performances. Should be a special player for us : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston scored a quality goal and lifted one sublime pass over the defence in the first half. Apart from that he was generally pants all night Thought their left footer Emannuel-Thomas looked more of a threat at times Shame really because Gaston looked the real deal on a couple of occasions last season, particularly first half at home to Everton Pretty much spot on IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Great goal and some beautiful touches mixed in with some frustrating moments. He provided the 3 best moments of the match. The goal, a gorgeous chipped pass over the top of their defence and thumping shot which went just wide in the first half. Second half he was coasting, then wandered off the pitch injured when they announced the added time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Similar to a lot Le Tiss' performances. Should be a special player for us : ) Did you not read the part about the effort I said he put in?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 One thing I won't criticise though was his level of effort. i thought he kept going, and kept trying right up to the point where he walked off injured with seconds to go I wish he'd put more effort into tackling. He seems to lose every 50/50 and often just makes a token gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 I wish he'd put more effort into tackling. He seems to lose every 50/50 and often just makes a token gesture. To be fair I think you're right about that, yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eharty9 Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 He's 22 for **** sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Did you not read the part about the effort I said he put in?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 I wish he'd put more effort into tackling. He seems to lose every 50/50 and often just makes a token gesture. He tackles more than LE Tiss ever did, but that's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Were you actually at the game? Honest question. IMO he had two sublime moments. One, the goal, absolutely thumped it home, a great finish. Another one in the first half where he lofted the ball over the defence for Lee, who really should have scored. Other than that, Gaston was massively frustrating. Poor control far too often, very poor passes far too often, not able to hold on to the ball, and far far too wasteful for a team that prides itself on keeping posession. Steven Davis was much more effective as a midfielder looking to pull the strings that Ramirez was. One thing I won't criticise though was his level of effort. i thought he kept going, and kept trying right up to the point where he walked off injured with seconds to go. It just really didn't work out for him. Extremely sloppy is the best way that I would describe his performance, punctuated by a couple of instances of absolute brilliance. A very accurate summary of Gaston. He either lost possession or gave the ball away so many times. we were counting at one stage first half and eight of ten times he had possession he lost it! A good goal yes and a nice through ball for Lee but really other than that he was quite quite poor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 A very accurate summary of Gaston. He either lost possession or gave the ball away so many times. we were counting at one stage first half and eight of ten times he had possession he lost it! A good goal yes and a nice through ball for Lee but really other than that he was quite quite poor... A little bit sad IMO that you're watching a player who is capable of goals like he scored tonight and you're sat counting the number of times he lost the ball. Do many people actually enjoy football anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 He tackles more than LE Tiss ever did, but that's not saying much. Not in the same universe as le tiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Yeah le tiss could walk on water and shoot fireball out his arse if he wanted. Say what you like about le tiss but he wouldn't go missing at all or duck out of 50/50s. No, not him, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Named as 'The Sun' Star Man tonight... a quality paper that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2430693/Southampton-2-Bristol-City-0--match-report-Gaston-Ramirez-Jos-Hooiveld-score.html Ramirez on form as Saints go marching on at St Mary's Playing with style and swagger, Ramirez came close twice more in the first half and continued to prove a handful after the restart. Edited 24 September, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/southampton-2-0-bristol-city-match-2298364 The Uruguayan playmaker was the standout player as Mauricio Pochettino's side saw off League One opponents on Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston - an enigma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2430693/Southampton-2-Bristol-City-0--match-report-Gaston-Ramirez-Jos-Hooiveld-score.html They obviously didn't see the Barnsley game as the caption on the photo reads... Talented: Gaston Ramirez blows a kiss to the fans after notching his first goal of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston scored a quality goal and lifted one sublime pass over the defence in the first half. Apart from that he was generally pants all night Thought their left footer Emannuel-Thomas looked more of a threat at times Shame really because Gaston looked the real deal on a couple of occasions last season, particularly first half at home to Everton Exactly that, sums up my thoughts. Took his goal tonight brilliantly, but otherwise pretty poor, gave the ball away throughout the first half and did very little in the second half. That Emannuel Thomas caused us problems all night, if they could take their chances we'd have been in a lot of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 A little bit sad IMO that you're watching a player who is capable of goals like he scored tonight and you're sat counting the number of times he lost the ball. Do many people actually enjoy football anymore? I wasn't counting, but it must have been a lot. Let's see if MP actually plays him much over the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 @gasramirez10: Thank you to all the saints fans for the great support received. I hope to keep helping the team to win matches. CMYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 A little bit sad IMO that you're watching a player who is capable of goals like he scored tonight and you're sat counting the number of times he lost the ball. Do many people actually enjoy football anymore? Your the sad one mate. You only ever come on here to criticise posters and don't have comments to make on the games or the team - that's what football forums are for you know - football opinions not your miserable psyco analysis of posters... Just for your information I love football but that doesn't stop me watching a game for good things and those that in my opinion could be different. Try watching a game more thoroughly yourself and then we can hear your opinion and call you sad ...... Otherwise use a forum that has nothing to do with football and leave people to discuss football matters in peace and keep your cheap personal vindictive opinions on posters to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Were you actually at the game? Honest question. IMO he had two sublime moments. One, the goal, absolutely thumped it home, a great finish. Another one in the first half where he lofted the ball over the defence for Lee, who really should have scored. Other than that, Gaston was massively frustrating. Poor control far too often, very poor passes far too often, not able to hold on to the ball, and far far too wasteful for a team that prides itself on keeping posession. Steven Davis was much more effective as a midfielder looking to pull the strings that Ramirez was. One thing I won't criticise though was his level of effort. i thought he kept going, and kept trying right up to the point where he walked off injured with seconds to go. It just really didn't work out for him. Extremely sloppy is the best way that I would describe his performance, punctuated by a couple of instances of absolute brilliance. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Gaston needs to work a lot harder and hunt the ball a lot more. Four decent moments first half but in second half not in game at all. Probably our most talented player potentially but needs to do a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 He should be in over jayrod its a no brainer. Gaston is capable of brilliance jay rod is not The number of times i watch jay rod and he snatches a lame shot or loses control of the ball is unbelievable yet for some reason gaston cops all the flack.its total bs in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 He should be in over jayrod its a no brainer. Gaston is capable of brilliance jay rod is not The number of times i watch jay rod and he snatches a lame shot or loses control of the ball is unbelievable yet for some reason gaston cops all the flack.its total bs in my opinion. Don't see how you can rate gastons performances as greater than j rods since they arrived. Just isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2430693/Southampton-2-Bristol-City-0--match-report-Gaston-Ramirez-Jos-Hooiveld-score.html It is a shame only 8,539 fans saw Southampton’s first home win since March as Gaston Ramirez’s opener on 15 minutes was worth the £18 ticket price alone. The forward has not started in the league this season and had a point to prove to boss Mauricio Pochettino. He did just that when James Ward-Prowse headed the ball over to him on the edge of the box and the Uruguayan volleyed home. It is unlikely there will be a sweeter struck shot than that all season. Assistant manager Jesus Perez said: ‘It was a great goal, but the more important thing for him was to play 90 minutes. He joined pre-season after playing in the Confederations Cup and the breaks with the national team don’t help. He’s putting in extra training to get fit.’ He scores goals from open play. We need that in the first team (or has nobody else noticed?) He clearly needs to get Saints fit. He'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2430693/Southampton-2-Bristol-City-0--match-report-Gaston-Ramirez-Jos-Hooiveld-score.html You're scraping the barrell using the daily fail. Lying, vile, racist scum paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/southampton-2-0-bristol-city-match-2298364 Lazy, lying scumbag journos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 A little bit sad IMO that you're watching a player who is capable of goals like he scored tonight and you're sat counting the number of times he lost the ball. Do many people actually enjoy football anymore? I warned about this when we were tracking him and everyone was getting excited. I watch a lot of Italian football and when I was visiting my friend in Bologna I went to see Bologna v Bari. Ramirez was awful, gave the ball away 32 times, didn't tackle and ducked out of 12 50/50s, missed an open goal and a penalty and got substituted after 50 minutes. He looked disinterested and didn't run around a lot so knew it wouldn't be long before the fans here said he was sh*t. Of course I was told I was trolling and being a WUM. WTFILN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 Indeed. He was on a different wavelength, everything we created came through him. Against Bristol City who enjoyed 52% possession, lets not get carried away here, oh they have, they have done it again, he scores a goal and we now have a Platini on our hands once again.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 Similar to a lot Le Tiss' performances. Should be a special player for us : ) No, no not really at all, one can only assume you are 21 and never really saw him play, to compare LeTissier to Gaston Ramirez is like comparing a Central Otago Pinot Noir to a generic Chilean piece of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 A very accurate summary of Gaston. He either lost possession or gave the ball away so many times. we were counting at one stage first half and eight of ten times he had possession he lost it! A good goal yes and a nice through ball for Lee but really other than that he was quite quite poor... Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 He's 22 for **** sake At what age do you become a decent footballer then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 You're scraping the barrell using the daily fail. Lying, vile, racist scum paper. Couldn't agree more about the Mail. But at 22 & £12m Ramirez someone must have thought he has both talent and potential. Shouldn't he be allowed space to develop & be given the benefit of the doubt for a little longer? Of course a point must come when you have to say 'its not working' & have a parting of the ways, but is now that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 Despite the niggles I'd play him Saturday, he has the ability to unlock defences and I think he could link up well with Ossie. He's not the finished article but he has something that the others don't, that ability to consistently play the killer pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 The more I read in all Gaston threads the more certain I get that many fans on here dont understand the concept of a flair player. After all years with the Pruttons, Telfers and Delaps their eyes and brain are used to a certain brand of football.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 The more I read in all Gaston threads the more certain I get that many fans on here dont understand the concept of a flair player. After all years with the Pruttons, Telfers and Delaps their eyes and brain are used to a certain brand of football.... Ah, almost Olallana! I see you're going for the much adopted put down of compartmentalising "Gaston bashers" into the supposed mindset of only rating footballers who run around a lot. The truth is that Saints fans will have a better grasp than most of the virtues and downfalls of a flair player. One of the greatest flair players of all time kept us in this division for years surrounded by a bunch of workmanlike artisans. We all know how lazy MLT was, and how he was prone to be sometimes wasteful. We already have a brilliant benchmark for a flair player; so this entire logic of yours is a bit flawed in this instance I'm afraid. In fact, the concept of a flair player in the modern game is also pretty much adequately defined in Adam Lallana. A player who rightly attracted some criticism for being too wasteful and non-productive but who seems to have really stepped up his game this season and is looking creative and productive all at the same time. Did you watch the game last night, by the way? If so, I'd be genuinely interested to hear from those with an alternative viewpoint as to why Gaston's performance should guarantee him a place on Saturday? Personally I don't think it did, as the brilliant things he did were too overshadowed by the regularity of bad things he did (which against a better opposition could have been exploited much more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 At what age do you become a decent footballer then? I'm 56 and counting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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