Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Ok...my point is that he is average and it shows how poor the competition is if he is able to get capped. Happy to be proven wrong. I think the main point people are making is that the competition isn't all that. I'm sure people would be on here complaining about the likes of Milner and Young if they were playing for us week in week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Ok...my point is that he is average and it shows how poor the competition is if he is able to get capped. Happy to be proven wrong. How can your statement that "talk of an England call up is mental" be true when he was called up last season by England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I'm normally fairly critical of Lallana, but i think he has started the season really well, looked dangerous, just needs a goal. Absolutely runs his socks off as well, not neglecting his full back like he was at times last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Attack Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Ok...it's mental that he has been called up before and it's mental if he gets called up again in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/dec/12/ashley-young-martin-oneill-aston-villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/dec/12/ashley-young-martin-oneill-aston-villa It is a laughable comparison, looking back. But, to be fair, when Ashley Young went to Man Utd he had been absolutely on fire for Villa and looked very good for United when he signed. Put it this way; I'd absolutely love to see him in a Saints side. Just not at the expense of our current skipper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Can't think of anyone better for the left hand side for England to be honest. Milner, Young? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 To be fair, he's had about 8 goals wrongfully disallowed since we've been back in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Wilshire played a fantastic ball against Stoke on Saturday, flighted a 40 yard cross field ball right onto Giroud's chests, unfortunately there was not another Arsenal player within 20 yards of Giroud and he was immediately surrounded by 3 Stoke players and lost the ball, Wilshire has no brain, I would take Lallana over him anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 That's right, all he has done is a little turn in the corner against Liverpool Do many people on here actually watch football? Ludwig clearly is not a saints fan and his only sight of Lallana was Saturday - and that was probably the MoD highlights. I wouldn't pay too much attention if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 And that's why Talksport is mong radio......if Lallana makes it to Brazil then England really are very poor. That very harsh too ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I think Lallana still has the potential to play for England. He seemed off his game last season but I always felt he never quite looked 100% fit and may have been carrying an injury. This year I've been impressed with both his turn of pace and his energy. Maybe that's because he's been told he only has to play for 60-70 minutes so he can give that little bit extra for the time he is on the pitch, knowing that we've got the likes of Davis, Cork or Ramirez to take his place, depending on what's needed. The fact that the Manager still has him as captain and starts him ahead of 2 full internationals, plus someone who played for GB at the Olympics must show how highly he rates him. I certainly think he can give a different option to England, but I can't see him getting the chance unless there are injuries to the likes of Wiltshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Can't honestly see Lallana going to Brazil to be honest...just too many other players ahead in the picking order. Lambert will not go either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Can't think of anyone better for the left hand side for England to be honest. Milner, Young? No thanks. Woy has made it pretty clear he'll go with 4-3-3 most games, with Rooney, sturidge and wellbeck as the 3. Leaving Gerrard, lampard and Wilshire centrally . He might change it around against stronger sides, bringing milner in to close off a flank, just like capello did a lot and man city did on Sunday. Just can't see where a tidy ball playing wide man with little pace fits in. I seem to recall a thread "kelvin for England". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 I really hope we don't go to Brazil with Lampard in the team. Better players around these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 I really hope he does get a cap. He has stuck with us through thick and so Fing thin it looked like we were about to disappear. He could have buggered off but he didn't and I hope he gets his rewards for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 (edited) A bit of a watered down Joe Cole syndrome for Lallana at international level, I feel. Great natural talent but probably won't fit into the system that the manager wants to play. Joe Cole was a bit part player for England but, like Paul Scholes, needed to be the focal point of the team to use him to best effect. And Cole in particular was too inconsisetnt to justify that role. I personally doubt whether Lallana offers enough pace for Hodgson to give him too much of a go on the wings (especially with the likes of Walcott, Welbz, and Ox when he returns to fitness). And if he's not playing in the number 10 role at club level it'll be hard for him to break through there. Hodgson is very much a safety-first type manager, and it would take something phenomenal from Lallana or any pllayer of his ilk to dislodge the old guard in time for Rio. A friendly appearance or two is the absolute best he can hope for, and then he has to take his chance as Rickie did (which is harder when you're not dealing solely in the strikers' currency of scoring goals). Edited 24 September, 2013 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernsaint Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Wilshere has only scored two league goals. He glides about dribbling all day but no end product. I think lallana is as good as him. Cleverley similar lack if goals. I think he is worse than lallana. Walcott is a striker out of position on wing, Young has goal threat as does Milner. Other than them the English AM and wingers, goalscorers are going to have to step up fast else we are going to seriously struggle without lamps and Gerrard. Barkley is the only similar player to a young Gerrard or lamps we have goals wise. No one else looks to be able to arrive late or run from deep and ping a shot on target. Lots of the youngsters can dribble and pass but generally finishing is the problem I would be most concerned about for the world cup. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Beer Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 It's amazing reading through these posts. Still so much negativity towards AL. If he played for another team in the prem, then people would rave about his skill and technique. Not a top 4 player? I could see him fit in that Arsenal team no problem. Very gifted player who works hard for the team. As someone said, poch starts him and still our captain which speaks volumes. Every pundit raves about him so what's up with our so called saints fans ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 It's amazing reading through these posts. Still so much negativity towards AL. If he played for another team in the prem, then people would rave about his skill and technique. Not a top 4 player? I could see him fit in that Arsenal team no problem. Very gifted player who works hard for the team. As someone said, poch starts him and still our captain which speaks volumes. Every pundit raves about him so what's up with our so called saints fans ?! I don't think anyone doubts his skill & engine and core technique or his importance to us. What many I have spoken to doubt is his "killer instinct". In and around the box he has a habit of always seeming to want/need a second touch - to be fair this season that now seems to be a half a touch. The ISSUE is that without that and with a killer instinct he COULD be so much better and certainly then England class. Whether it is a speed of thought issue or a mental lack of clinical-ness I don't know. To step up for us AND England his assists from around the box need to increase and he needs to start burying chances such as the one he had on Saturday. He is a very fine player for us, but he IS frustrating when it is so clear he is so close to being better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Lallana will be an England regular within the next couple of years. Watch this space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Just seen confirmation Walcott's been ruled out for the October qualifiers. Seeing how Adam's played like in the last couple of games can see him doing a great job as Walcott's replacement. Get spamming the FA at St Georges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 It's amazing reading through these posts. Still so much negativity towards AL. If he played for another team in the prem, then people would rave about his skill and technique. Not a top 4 player? I could see him fit in that Arsenal team no problem. Very gifted player who works hard for the team. As someone said, poch starts him and still our captain which speaks volumes. Every pundit raves about him so what's up with our so called saints fans ?! If he was at a top 4 club he would be called crap, and part of the reasoning for a "our midfield is better than theirs" thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Just seen confirmation Walcott's been ruled out for the October qualifiers. Seeing how Adam's played like in the last couple of games can see him doing a great job as Walcott's replacement. Get spamming the FA at St Georges. Rooney wide left in the position he plays for the Mancs, Sturridge in the Walcott role & SRL keeping the shape in the middle. I think that will work nicely in the last two qualifiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Is this the same Lallana who has failed to establish himself in the Premier league for over a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 September, 2013 Share Posted 24 September, 2013 Is this the same Lallana who has failed to establish himself in the Premier league for over a season? He looks better this season after a poor first season for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 Rubbish, there's plenty of doubt. Take off your red and white tinted glasses, Young is off form , but never in a month of sundays will a top 4 club sign AL. Completely irrelevant. Loads of crap players have played for top 4 clubs and continually do. It doesn't require someone to have red and white tinted glasses to see that Lallana is a better footballer than Young. Just because somebody plays for Manchester United doesn't actually make them a superstar. This is something lots of people struggle to understand, including England manager Roy Hodgson. Having said that, I'm not saying Lallana is world class, or even top 4 class. But he is certainly better than AY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 For all the undoubted under over skates on here, it must truly grate on them where Saints are going... International call ups, further potential call ups, beating league leaders.... It must truly be an awful awful time! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 *undercover BIG LOL @ you all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Beer Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 If he was at a top 4 club he would be called crap, and part of the reasoning for a "our midfield is better than theirs" thread What a load of rubbish. He would fit in well into that arsenal side. Apart from Walcott's pace do we think Walcott has a better technique and football brain than Lallana ?! No chance, Lallana is a much better footballer. Be called crap at a top 4 club?! Laughable statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 Milner is pants....and how many goals has he scored the last few years. He is just a clumsy loaf in the middle of the park...does run around a bit but creates nowting. How can he be playing in the international side all these years? He was always the young pretender on his way up....but never got there! And Cleverly. he wouldn't make it into any other top national team. Even Shelvey has been in the squad, i do believe. Says loads about england, unfortunately. How do you reckon Germany Holland Italy or any european side think when they see Milner, Cleverly, Phil Jones, Glen Johnson on the opponents teamsheet. Not gonna brick-it exactly. Same old cow****...england managers picking the likes of Alan Smith , Emil Heskey , Milner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 25 September, 2013 Share Posted 25 September, 2013 What a load of rubbish. He would fit in well into that arsenal side. Apart from Walcott's pace do we think Walcott has a better technique and football brain than Lallana ?! No chance, Lallana is a much better footballer. Be called crap at a top 4 club?! Laughable statement. Step back, take a breather mate. I think you kind of missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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