Batman Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Just listening to talksport on the way home and they were raving about lallana. said he ran himself to the ground on sat and that was coupled with great natural ability. claimed he will no doubt follow lambert and get a cap if he carries on like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Certainly no worse than Cleverley or Young and on current form as good as Wilshire? Think he'll struggle to get game time when Roy's favourites are around but there we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Just listening to talksport on the way home and they were raving about lallana. said he ran himself to the ground on sat and that was coupled with great natural ability. claimed he will no doubt follow lambert and get a cap if he carries on like this If he has a good season, he has a very good chance of squeezing his way onto the plane for Brazil - if we qualify of course. In fact, perhaps a better chance than Lambert who I fear may begin to fade soon or slowly become a supersub as opposed to a starter, though people might disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Certainly no worse than Cleverley or Young and on current form as good as Wilshire? Think he'll struggle to get game time when Roy's favourites are around but there we go! miles better than young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 miles better than young. And younger too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 reckon he'd have a decent chance if he could improve his finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Needs to improve his finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Young is garbage. Wouldn't have him anywhere near the England squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Not so much his finishing as just getting the shot on, sometimes he just does one more little flick or piece of skill than is necessary. Or just tries to do something to create that little bit of space when really he should just shoot straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 He needs to score more goals - 10 to 12 a year at a minimum I suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 He needs to score more goals - 10 to 12 a year at a minimum I suggest. He gets recognition without the goals, he just needs to be effective at what he does.....keeping the ball, creating chances for others, working hard for the team. Lots of out and out strikers won't get 12 goals a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2013 He needs to score more goals - 10 to 12 a year at a minimum I suggest. minimum? madness, lambert got 3 more than that and was the top english striker 10-12..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Yeah. If he scores a few more goals then he may have a chance. Has certainly been better this season than he was all last season for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I hope he does get an England call up. Deserves it AND he's used not to getting a full game. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 He needs to score more goals - 10 to 12 a year at a minimum I suggest. "10 to 12 at a minimum"? That is an extremely high figure for a midfielder in the Premier League! Only two midfielders managed 11 or more Premier League goals last season and that was Santi Cazorla and Frank Lampard (who has penalties, which Lallana won't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 And that's why Talksport is mong radio......if Lallana makes it to Brazil then England really are very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2013 And that's why Talksport is mong radio......if Lallana makes it to Brazil then England really are very poor. but we are quite poor. he is miles better than young for a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 And that's why Talksport is mong radio......if Lallana makes it to Brazil then England really are very poor. What about Young, Milner, Cleverly? England are already relatively poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 And that's why Talksport is mong radio......if Lallana makes it to Brazil then England really are very poor. Huh? England are pretty poor. Lallana and Lambert would not get into the Spanish or Brazilian or Argentinian team. Is that a reason not to talk about "fringe players"? The idea that Lallana wld need to score "a minimum of 10-12 goals" to get into the team is utterly nuts. Wellback has been a nailed on selection having scored just 1 goal last season as a striker. Half a dozen or so assists from Lallana and maybe 3 or 4 goals should be enough to put him in the frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 but we are quite poor. he is miles better than young for a start Take diving for penalties out of youngs game and I'm not sure what else he brings to the table. I'm not on of the cleverly bandwagon jumpers, I think he's quite decent but you'd have to say Lallana certainly isnt any worse than what is in the squad based on his form this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 (edited) England's front 4 of Sturridge, Wellbeck, Theo and Rooney doesn't look too bad at the moment. Wilshere and Gerrard behind is not too shabby either. If we do make it to Rio I wonder how many of those 6 will be fit enough to get on the plane? Adam is probably competing with Milner for a place in the squad, if that is the case then it had to be Adam. I admire Milners work rate but Adam offers more. Edited 23 September, 2013 by notnowcato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Lallana flatters to deceive.. too many tricks and no end product... should make the squad then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I don't get the hate for Young either. He's a good player who was very good at one point - you don't play for Man Utd (or for Sir Alex) if you're not good. Likewise, Cleverly - has a lot to learn but will be good. Lallana is certainly no worse though, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 ****ing hell, he's had one decent game this season (which was Saturday) and all of a sudden he's better than Young & Milner, and on a par with Wilshire. Look at the managers who have picked Milner, Sir Bobby Robson, Martin O Neil, Fabio Capello, Woy Hodgson, are they all idiots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 ****ing hell, he's had one decent game this season (which was Saturday) and all of a sudden he's better than Young & Milner, and on a par with Wilshire. Look at the managers who have picked Milner, Sir Bobby Robson, Martin O Neil, Fabio Capello, Woy Hodgson, are they all idiots? There is no doubt, no doubt, that Lallana is better than Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 ****ing hell, he's had one decent game this season (which was Saturday) and all of a sudden he's better than Young & Milner, and on a par with Wilshire. Look at the managers who have picked Milner, Sir Bobby Robson, Martin O Neil, Fabio Capello, Woy Hodgson, are they all idiots? Would you rather have Milner or Lallana in our side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Would you rather have Milner or Lallana in our side? Is it a trick question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Is it a trick question? There is no right or wrong, try not to think too much and go with your instincts Krakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 There is no right or wrong, try not to think too much and go with your instincts Krakers. The thing is; Milner is a good player. But that's exactly what he is; good. He's not outstanding, he's methodical, a safe option. Not international quality to make a difference, but not someone who'll let you down. A bit beige, if you like. Lallana all the way for me, of course. Not that there isn't a place for the likes of Milner, I suppose. I just don't really know what he does or what he offers other than a defensively safe option on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 The thing is; Milner is a good player. But that's exactly what he is; good. He's not outstanding, he's methodical, a safe option. Not international quality to make a difference, but not someone who'll let you down. A bit beige, if you like. Lallana all the way for me, of course. Not that there isn't a place for the likes of Milner, I suppose. I just don't really know what he does or what he offers other than a defensively safe option on the wing. Completely agree, he is a workhorse first and foremost. Lallana has his off days but he is still one of our best players and I know who I would rather watch every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 There is no doubt, no doubt, that Lallana is better than Young. Rubbish, there's plenty of doubt. Take off your red and white tinted glasses, Young is off form , but never in a month of sundays will a top 4 club sign AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 What the ****? Lallana shouldn't be anywhere near an England team at the moment. He hasn't done anything to warrant a call up other than the little turn he did in the corner against Liverpool. But then Lambert has been called up during his worst period of football for a long time. Maybe they should call up off form saints players and then when theyre **** Roy can say "they're ****" and go back picking his favourites from the big teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi7s Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I think in every game, not just Sat, Lallana has been pretty good this season. Has such good feet and the ability to create/go past people which we lack with Gaston on the bench and Punch out on loan. Coupled with his technical ability is his work rate, he helped out defensively on countless occasions on Sat., and all in all AL is showing real signs of fulfilling his huge potential. Has to be in woy's thoughts for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 What the ****? Lallana shouldn't be anywhere near an England team at the moment. He hasn't done anything to warrant a call up other than the little turn he did in the corner against Liverpool. But then Lambert has been called up during his worst period of football for a long time. Maybe they should call up off form saints players and then when theyre **** Roy can say "they're ****" and go back picking his favourites from the big teams. That's right, all he has done is a little turn in the corner against Liverpool Do many people on here actually watch football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Well I would personally love to see him come in for Young, who to be honest is so predictable at the moment from the Utd games I've seen this season. Totally short of confidence although there is a good player in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Rubbish, there's plenty of doubt. Take off your red and white tinted glasses, Young is off form , but never in a month of sundays will a top 4 club sign AL. never in a month of sundays will another top 4 club sign young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 (edited) never in a month of sundays will another top 4 club sign young If saints offered a swap Young for Adam, what do you think Moyes would say? Someone reckons he's on a par with Wilshire, perhaps Wenger is up for a swap deal. Edited 23 September, 2013 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 If saints offered a swap Young for Adam, what do you think Moyes would say? Based on Sunday, he should be biting our hands off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 If saints offered a swap Young for Adam, what do you think Moyes would say? What would Pochettino say if Utd offered a swap Adam for Young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2013 young has been off form for way over a year he could play 100% better for stoke, norwich and never get a look in for england (as is the case for a few players) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I think the Wenger quote of "everybody thinks they have the prettiest wife" is pretty apt with some of the comments on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I think the Wenger quote of "everybody thinks they have the prettiest wife" is pretty apt with some of the comments on here. do you think young this season has been better than adam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 I think the Wenger quote of "everybody thinks they have the prettiest wife" is pretty apt with some of the comments on here. Some (as ever) yes. The Wilshere comparison is daft. But Diggo's question back at you of "what would Pochettino say if Utd offered to swap Lallana for Young" puts it in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Some (as ever) yes. The Wilshere comparison is daft. But Diggo's question back at you of "what would Pochettino say if Utd offered to swap Lallana for Young" puts it in perspective. Indeed. Reminds me of when Adam Johnson was at Man City or Downing at Liverpool. Would you have swapped them for Lallana? No, probably not. But because they're at a way bigger club, people straight away think, "well of course you would" look a bit further into it, and you'd probably say no probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Attack Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Not a fan of lallana. He's ok but the talk of an England call up is mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Not a fan of lallana. He's ok but the talk of an England call up is mental. He was called up by England last year. So is it really "mental"? Yes, there are a number of people ahead of him, but he isn't that far down the pecking order for it to be described as "mental". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Some (as ever) yes. The Wilshere comparison is daft. But Diggo's question back at you of "what would Pochettino say if Utd offered to swap Lallana for Young" puts it in perspective. Well, seeing as we need some width and pace I'd hope he'd say yes, hes certainly an upgrade on puncheon . The best time to pick up a quality player is when they're in a dip. In fact that's the only chance we'd get of picking up young, cause if he's on his game there's not a hope in hell of us signing him. I've seen every game bar wba this season and until sat have not been particlary impressed with Adam this season. I didn't think he was that great last year. Its great he's come through the ranks, has been loyal and plays the game in an exciting manner, but some perspective is needed on here. Personally I think if Gaston gets his ****e together, forget about battling for England place, he'll be facing a real struggle to get in our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Not a fan of lallana. He's ok but the talk of an England call up is mental. So mental that he has already been called up once? Regardless of what people on here say, he's not as far away as some think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 Well, seeing as we need some width and pace I'd hope he'd say yes, hes certainly an upgrade on puncheon . The best time to pick up a quality player is when they're in a dip. In fact that's the only chance we'd get of picking up young, cause if he's on his game there's not a hope in hell of us signing him. I've seen every game bar wba this season and until sat have not been particlary impressed with Adam this season. I didn't think he was that great last year. Its great he's come through the ranks, has been loyal and plays the game in an exciting manner, but some perspective is needed on here. Personally I think if Gaston gets his ****e together, forget about battling for England place, he'll be facing a real struggle to get in our side. Well its all about opinions I suppose, but for me Lallana is probably the most improved player we have from last season. He was under par for most of the last campaign but really looks like getting it together this time round. He's still nowhere near as clinical as he could be at times, but he definitely has qualities that not too many other players in the division match up to, in terms of providing a little bit of unexpected magic. I've long been a campaigner for us playing with more width and more natural wide players; but swapping Lallana for Ashley Young to try to achieve that? Just no. Both of them in the same side would be great for us; but Lallana gives our side much more than Young ever could IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Attack Posted 23 September, 2013 Share Posted 23 September, 2013 So mental that he has already been called up once? Regardless of what people on here say, he's not as far away as some think. Ok...my point is that he is average and it shows how poor the competition is if he is able to get capped. Happy to be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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