Greenridge Posted 11 December, 2008 Share Posted 11 December, 2008 I'm not sure if an anger management course is required but the following is the part that escapes me. Can you elaborate? - hence things are going well for him - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt SFC Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 You appear to have missed the irony of the message I was trying to get across there TDD and Dicko. I was making reference to the way players have/are/will be treated on this forum. Skacel and Euell spring to mind at the moment, while there are many more in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 He is ****ing **** and useless. What a waste of space. I hope he ****s off in January, not that anyone would buy him. Usless ****. Your talking ************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 12 December, 2008 omgz i hates mcgoldrick. he is so sh*t not fit to wear the shirt etc etc etc. mcgoldrick is not in the squad for a game or two, and numerous threads pop up on here asking where he is and claiming to be our best player/the only one who can get us out of this mess. this forum is a joke. Oh Dear!!! Matty boy, you have made yourself look a bit of plank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 I'm not sure if an anger management course is required but the following is the part that escapes me. Can you elaborate? You will have to excuse my typing torrets. I clearly have a potty mouth. He (McGoldrick) said "things are going well for him" then people on here questioned how he would say that seeing as `he is playing ****'. I understand why he would say it, as he is playing regularly and in many games doing well (some would not agree with me of course). But if you have been overlooked, sent out on loan or just given five minutes playing time every month then how things are going now are going to seem much much better, or in other words `things are going well right now' compared to previous seasons. Hope that explains things. The lad is 22, give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 chez i feel you hve fallen for the hype that our academy spits out great players..when it truth...it simply does not.. not at all. I judge players on what I see not what someone tells me I am seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 not at all. I judge players on what I see not what someone tells me I am seeing. So have i. Thats why i think McGoldrick is S-h-i-t-e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 You will have to excuse my typing torrets. I clearly have a potty mouth. He (McGoldrick) said "things are going well for him" then people on here questioned how he would say that seeing as `he is playing ****'. I understand why he would say it, as he is playing regularly and in many games doing well (some would not agree with me of course). But if you have been overlooked, sent out on loan or just given five minutes playing time every month then how things are going now are going to seem much much better, or in other words `things are going well right now' compared to previous seasons. Hope that explains things. The lad is 22, give him time. Fair comments Chez. It's clear that you can't make it through the grades and get into a CCC team without having a decent level of talent. The question this raises is why he seems to be struggling so badly (IMO) this year. Is it the formation, team-mates, tactics, confidence, coaching or whatever but I'm sure he must be a better player (his scoring record at Youth is enviable) than he is portraying on the pitch right now. He's been given a very good run so far, let's hope he turns the corner sooner as later may not be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 13 December, 2008 Share Posted 13 December, 2008 DMG may be underperforming, but every strikers get lean patches. He is capable of shooting accurately, as his academy record proves. He simply is not suited to be lone striker. He plays best feeding off a second front man. He is not coping well with everyone's expectations. Poor tactics by Jan is the main reason he is not scoring imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 13 December, 2008 Share Posted 13 December, 2008 chez i feel you hve fallen for the hype that our academy spits out great players..when it truth...it simply does not.. ...all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 13 December, 2008 Share Posted 13 December, 2008 chez i feel you hve fallen for the hype that our academy spits out great players..when it truth...it simply does not.. The hype is there because the purpose of the Academy is to breed and sell for others' benefit. It's a glorified sales catalogue. One thing Lowe will never say is that his merchandise is less than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 13 December, 2008 Share Posted 13 December, 2008 All I will add to this ridiculous thread is that I am very glad the know nothing, virtual village mob, didn't manage to hound out last seasons 'hate figure/fallguy' cos without Kelvin we'd be fooked this season. Should McG mature into a good player you'll all be moaning about how he'll probably be sold to the highest bidder (doubtless to line Lowes pockets or some other such nonsense). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 All I will add to this ridiculous thread is that I am very glad the know nothing, virtual village mob, didn't manage to hound out last seasons 'hate figure/fallguy' cos without Kelvin we'd be fooked this season. Should McG mature into a good player you'll all be moaning about how he'll probably be sold to the highest bidder (doubtless to line Lowes pockets or some other such nonsense). another player I backed (along with KJ and Fuller). People never learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 another player I backed (along with KJ and Fuller). People never learn. never learn..? it is called having an opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Matt Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Struts around like he owns the place, ****ey penalty v Watford cost us the game, taxi for him now......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 never learn..? it is called having an opinion... they never learn to give players a little time before writing them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 they never learn to give players a little time before writing them off. I generally agree with many of your posts Chez but there was a difference with Kenwyne, you could see the natural athlete in him even if the finer side of his game took time to emerge. I just don't see that capability in McG and don't forget, he didn't find the net once at Port Vale in about 19 games last year. Even though he was raw at the time, Kenwyne scored something like 10 in 10 games for Wednesday at that level. As for Kelvin, I'm delighted with is form this season but we did pay quite a bit for him at the time and he was poor in 2006/7 and in the early part of last season. Hillsborough seemed to be a wake-up call and he's taken on more responsibility since the bigger earners have gone. Big credit to Kelvin for turning it around, has McG got the skill or character to do the same? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint hawk Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 If you saw mcgoldrick in town hes a face i would love to smack hes an arrogant git Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 I generally agree with many of your posts Chez but there was a difference with Kenwyne, you could see the natural athlete in him even if the finer side of his game took time to emerge. I just don't see that capability in McG and don't forget, he didn't find the net once at Port Vale in about 19 games last year. Even though he was raw at the time, Kenwyne scored something like 10 in 10 games for Wednesday at that level. As for Kelvin, I'm delighted with is form this season but we did pay quite a bit for him at the time and he was poor in 2006/7 and in the early part of last season. Hillsborough seemed to be a wake-up call and he's taken on more responsibility since the bigger earners have gone. Big credit to Kelvin for turning it around, has McG got the skill or character to do the same? I hope so. Players liek Walcott with his exceptional pace, and Kenwyne with his build and arial strength have the attributes to succeed without any experience required. McGoldrick doesn't have either of those so he is going to take longer to shine. IMO he does have the first touch and the ability on the ball required to play at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Players liek Walcott with his exceptional pace, and Kenwyne with his build and arial strength have the attributes to succeed without any experience required. McGoldrick doesn't have either of those so he is going to take longer to shine. IMO he does have the first touch and the ability on the ball required to play at this level. Another one who lacks the drive, motivation and self discipline to be effective at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Players liek Walcott with his exceptional pace, and Kenwyne with his build and arial strength have the attributes to succeed without any experience required. McGoldrick doesn't have either of those so he is going to take longer to shine. IMO he does have the first touch and the ability on the ball required to play at this level. I hope you are right Chez, I really do because the board seem to pushing him to JP as this season's main striker and we need goals really badly from forward areas to stay up. Trouble is Chez, he's 21 and does have a surprising amount of league experience. I think a bit of competition, if we could send Smith, Pekhart and Robertson back, via a decent loan striker that is better than we already have, might kick McG up the backside a bit. That said, Holmes and McG did link fairly well and we've missed Holmes since he's been out. He might do better in a 4-4-2 but as a lone striker or wide-right, he isn't up to the job, IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 He might do better in a 4-4-2 but as a lone striker or wide-right, he isn't up to the job, IMO of course. I agree and he has looked at his best when played just off Patterson - a big target man. I agree we need to lose Pekhart, Smith and Robertson. Saga and John will be back in the window though. I wonder if we will be able to shift them out again? If not will we be able to afford Cork's wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 I agree and he has looked at his best when played just off Patterson - a big target man. I agree we need to lose Pekhart, Smith and Robertson. Saga and John will be back in the window though. I wonder if we will be able to shift them out again? If not will we be able to afford Cork's wages. Saga I don't know about, Rioch was fired over there so a perm deal looks remote. John might be a target for one of the promotion push clubs possibly, I like him but we can't keep both and perhaps neither. With Cork it depends on what he earns at Chelsea I would guess and whether a low-end PL club comes in that will either buy him outright or offer an 100% wage contribution. This is why only having the loan until January was always a calculated risk, it would be hard for a new loan player to arrive and be as effective as Cork has been from game 1 in a relegation battle. I really like Cork but I can't see us being able to afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Saga I don't know about, Rioch was fired over there so a perm deal looks remote. John might be a target for one of the promotion push clubs possibly, I like him but we can't keep both and perhaps neither. With Cork it depends on what he earns at Chelsea I would guess and whether a low-end PL club comes in that will either buy him outright or offer an 100% wage contribution. This is why only having the loan until January was always a calculated risk, it would be hard for a new loan player to arrive and be as effective as Cork has been from game 1 in a relegation battle. I really like Cork but I can't see us being able to afford him. if John and Saga return that going to be £25k a week added to our wage bill. Losing these two permently will dictate all player transfers. If both are sold on Jan 1st then we are in a much stronger position regarding Lallana and Surman. Anyone looking to buy those two will offer a pitiful fee early doors and then watch us sweat as we wait for Bristol City or whoever to take John off our hands. I suppose someone might spend big on Surman and Lallana early doors but I seriously doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 if John and Saga return that going to be £25k a week added to our wage bill. Losing these two permently will dictate all player transfers. If both are sold on Jan 1st then we are in a much stronger position regarding Lallana and Surman. Anyone looking to buy those two will offer a pitiful fee early doors and then watch us sweat as we wait for Bristol City or whoever to take John off our hands. I suppose someone might spend big on Surman and Lallana early doors but I seriously doubt it. Sadly I think you have spotted the strategy of Pulis and possibly Hodgson. Trouble is, Rupert was very good at doing it to clubs in trouble at the start of this decade, the low price driven for Higgy from Derby being one example so it's painful to see the tables turned. If Pulis wishes to take Saga or Stern though, he is most welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 hmmmmmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Thank God McG feels it's all coming together. I hate to think what would be happening if we were playing crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintIT Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I hope his substitution today means he will be in the reserves for a while. It's time to give someone else a chance. His performance today was poor, and he didn't look really that interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 The guy is quite simply the most shockingly poor player to play for Saints for decades......he encompasses all the problems Saints have in one body! Useless, disinterested, and lazy..........and YET the OS have him spouting off about how great things are!!.........the joke is now complete..........watch the club implode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 The guy is quite simply the most shockingly poor player to play for Saints for decades......he encompasses all the problems Saints have in one body! Useless, disinterested, and lazy..........and YET the OS have him spouting off about how great things are!!.........the joke is now complete..........watch the club implode! Don't forget that this useless piece of humanity has been told he will play every game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 He is an absoulte disgrace. How anyone can think he is any good is beyond me. Definitely the worst player I've ever seen in my 11 years following Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anders Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 1 goal for every 9 hours of football he has played this season, fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Nice to see our "hungry young striker" scoring 20+ this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I liked seeing the ground 3quarters full today but then when i saw how the team were not supported like they have been recently i realised that it might be better to only have 14k crowds. It was shameful how the fans booed him.How about Lallana, he did sfa but is immune to the criticism.It is clear the abuse is getting to DMG and his confidence is shot. The lad is expected to play up front on his own against 3 defenders who were more experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I liked seeing the ground 3quarters full today but then when i saw how the team were not supported like they have been recently i realised that it might be better to only have 14k crowds. It was shameful how the fans booed him.How about Lallana, he did sfa but is immune to the criticism.It is clear the abuse is getting to DMG and his confidence is shot. The lad is expected to play up front on his own against 3 defenders who were more experienced. I am certain that your Messiah does not agree. I am 110% certain he was hoping for a footballing-fu.ck-fest where we won 5-0 and some of the extra 12,000-odd stayed with the team for the next (more expensive) match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I liked seeing the ground 3quarters full today but then when i saw how the team were not supported like they have been recently i realised that it might be better to only have 14k crowds. It was shameful how the fans booed him.How about Lallana, he did sfa but is immune to the criticism.It is clear the abuse is getting to DMG and his confidence is shot. The lad is expected to play up front on his own against 3 defenders who were more experienced. So we're back to blaming the fans again. Bravo, nickh, fcckuing bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I liked seeing the ground 3quarters full today but then when i saw how the team were not supported like they have been recently i realised that it might be better to only have 14k crowds. It was shameful how the fans booed him.How about Lallana, he did sfa but is immune to the criticism.It is clear the abuse is getting to DMG and his confidence is shot. The lad is expected to play up front on his own against 3 defenders who were more experienced. McGoldrick deserves too be booed. People pay good money to watch Saints and shouldn't have to except crap like that c*nt. He is a complete waste, not to mention lazy. I booed him today and I'll boo him at Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I am certain that your Messiah does not agree. I am 110% certain he was hoping for a footballing-fu.ck-fest where we won 5-0 and some of the extra 12,000-odd stayed with the team for the next (more expensive) match.No doubt RL would have liked that (5-0)the same as me, unlike some who have pleasure posting after a depressing defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I told you all pre-season that DM had been told by Lowe that he was 1st choice striker and would start every game. Oh no, the luvvies said, Lowe wouldn't have said that, not our lovely Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I liked seeing the ground 3quarters full today but then when i saw how the team were not supported like they have been recently i realised that it might be better to only have 14k crowds. It was shameful how the fans booed him.How about Lallana, he did sfa but is immune to the criticism.It is clear the abuse is getting to DMG and his confidence is shot. The lad is expected to play up front on his own against 3 defenders who were more experienced. Nick, I think you are a loan voice. He is just not up to it. It is not the fact he does nt score it is the manner of his game. He just does not have a clue at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 So we're back to blaming the fans again. Bravo, nickh, fcckuing bravo.Oh so its ok to boo the players? i boo the fans who booed DMG. It was not the majority.I found it interesting that we had a return of a lot of fans today and the crowd was less supportive.The hardcore have been fantastic this season turning up week in week out, and have got behind them. Weget the return of many part time ones and the mood was far from supportive. If you wish to boo DMG be consistant and boo Lallana who couldnt take a corner or Surman who didnt make a mark, or Pearce who made a horrific mistake. We are not in a position to be able to crush one of our players confidence so he is unable to play. I was/am as angry as anyone on here but i dont let it be to the detriment of the clubs health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I told you all pre-season that DM had been told by Lowe that he was 1st choice striker and would start every game. Oh no, the luvvies said, Lowe wouldn't have said that, not our lovely Rupert.Well you have been proved wrong as he hasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Nick, I think you are a loan voice. He is just not up to it. It is not the fact he does nt score it is the manner of his game. He just does not have a clue at this level. So i should not defend what is wrong IMO then? DMG is being asked to play as a lone striker, it is ridiculous and he is suffering for it.You mix up his demeanour with lack of ambition or desire, it is nonsensicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Osti Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 David you are an over rateted gimp mate, You have not and will never performe at this or any pro league level. Get a job in Mc Ds and a bench place at Bashly you chimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I found it interesting that we had a return of a lot of fans today and the crowd was less supportive.The hardcore have been fantastic this season turning up week in week out, and have got behind them. We get the return of many part time ones and the mood was far from supportive. There was nothing for them to cheer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 So i should not defend what is wrong IMO then? DMG is being asked to play as a lone striker, it is ridiculous and he is suffering for it.You mix up his demeanour with lack of ambition or desire, it is nonsensicle. His touch, speed of thought, desire, commitment were all awful. Putting somebody else alongside him would have changed none of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 His touch, speed of thought, desire, commitment were all awful. Putting somebody else alongside him would have changed none of these.you could add many others to that list.He still is being asked to play up front alone and as we are not scorting goals he is shopuldering the blame.We did not create much for him to latchj on to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Oh so its ok to boo the players? i boo the fans who booed DMG. It was not the majority. If I see any of those players out tonight, then I think I'll be chinning the fccukers, let alone booing them. If they take the money, then they should be prepared to take the stick. I've had a fcculking gut full of all this pussy footing around, particularly when he's on the OS telling us how happy he is with his performances and how he's turned the corner. Fccujk off has he. And if by sheer chance Jan Poortvliet is having tapas at Langkawi, then I'll be inserting the chicken satay up his ar553. Stop blaming the long suffering fans and a have a fukkucing closer look at what's making them all get so wound up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap in the Chapel Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 McGoldrick is a Blue Square South-standard footballer with a Premiership-size ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 you could add many others to that list.He still is being asked to play up front alone and as we are not scorting goals he is shopuldering the blame.We did not create much for him to latchj on to. Oh come on Nick,he is trully ****e,you know it and we all know it. He has been ****e all season so deserves the stick he gets. He needs to spend a long time out of the squad to have long hard look at his effort and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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